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2 minutes ago, efcfanwirral said:

Nothing to celebrate. All this does is give a mandate to Sunak for more austerity to appease "the markets" who apparently run the country. 

He can try but it won't wash, all those one nation tories have been falling over themselves to talk about compassion...because they know that Austerity 2.0 isn't exactly a vote winner.

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Obviously horrible news. But I think pointing the finger at Rayner is not only unfair to her, but also serves to help silence critics of the Tories. Don't forget that over the years, BJ's words h

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1 minute ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?

A week long story leadership contest then BAU.

Your guess is as good as mine for the winner, Rishi would be my guess but it depends on a few others. 

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Just now, Zoo Music Girl said:

If they can do it in a week, why did it drag on so much before?!

I can see someone standing unopposed to get it sorted.

Because that contest went to the membership, this one isn’t (and they realise they can’t have another 8 week long one again).

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Was watching tory mp Tobias Ellwood on Politics Live at lunchtime who was trying to keep his shit together. He did a *really* good job of revealing just how riven by divisions the tory party is.

Steviewevie would have loved it because it ended up being a debate about how the tory party was fucked because they'd lurched to the right with the ERG crowd and so were at open war with the one nation centrists. He was pleading for a more centrist reality check. Tissue paper between the one nation centrists and Starmer...if Truss had stayed on I could have seen some peeling away of tory mps towards Labour...might still happen...

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Just now, Kurosagi said:

Was watching tory mp Tobias Ellwood on Politics Live at lunchtime who was trying to keep his shit together. He did a *really* good job of revealing just how riven by divisions the tory party is.

Steviewevie would have loved it because it ended up being a debate about how the tory party was fucked because they'd lurched to the right with the ERG crowd and so were at open war with the one nation centrists. He was pleading for a more centrist reality check. Tissue paper between the one nation centrists and Starmer...if Truss had stayed on I could have seen some peeling away of tory mps towards Labour...might still happen...

I saw this too. Was an interesting debate.

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7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?

rirshi or spaffer i reckon.

at least it won't be spelling mistake.

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7 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said:

Relief I guess! Kwarteng looked pretty happy after he was sacked too.

So what now? Got to be Rishi?


Nah, Sunak is still despised by the membership. Mordaunt would be a better shout. But who honestly knows what goes through the collective mind of the tory party membership.

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4 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

They should go to the public and live with the outcome.

Beeb talking head was suggesting that the next PM would be wise to acknowledge the need for electoral mandate and so make a commitment to hold a GE in the summer and use that as a deadline to focus the tory party into unity. Although can't see it happening myself.

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Too soon for Boris if he came back it would be after this investigation if he mislead parliament.

Between Rishi and Penny for me and if Penny has been bought off with foreign secretary

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Just now, maelzoid said:

Truss was certainly not up to the task, but I'll take her gross incompetence over BJ's self-serving dishonesty and bigotry any day of the week,

I think there’s a level of misogyny with people that happily ignore all of Johnson’s failures and claim Truss is the worst ever. 

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5 minutes ago, mattiloy said:


Nah, Sunak is still despised by the membership. Mordaunt would be a better shout. But who honestly knows what goes through the collective mind of the tory party membership.

they don't have a mind.

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