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[Guest]

What a clown party. 

[charlierc]

11 hours ago, Ozanne said:

I suppose so although Trump was a Democrat supporter originally so he might not be the best example 😆 

It is fascinating to see the evolution tbf. At some points, it is true Trump did back Dem positions, while in 2000, Trump released a book and although it contained a fair few things that would feature 16 years later, it also suggested higher taxes and an American NHS, both things the modern Republican party would very much not want to do.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, charlierc said:

It is fascinating to see the evolution tbf. At some points, it is true Trump did back Dem positions, while in 2000, Trump released a book and although it contained a fair few things that would feature 16 years later, it also suggested higher taxes and an American NHS, both things the modern Republican party would very much not want to do.

I guess he’s more of a chameleon, changing his positions to suit the current climate and his own gains?

[Guest]

 

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

Unsurprisingly the headline might not be 100% accurate.

 

[Neil]

Bma are a trade union, who are against too many doctors being trained up in case it negatively affects doctors pay. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Neil

[kaosmark2]

Starmer not respected by refugee charity:

https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/refugee-charity-happy-keir-starmer-is-no-longer-a-patron-3948641

[Cherry Tree]

10 hours ago, Ozanne said:

I guess he’s more of a chameleon, changing his positions to suit the current climate and his own gains?

A Chameleon, as long as the background is orange.

[Guest]

 

12 years of Tory rule.

[lost]

Nobody seemed to realise what would happen when it wasn't windy. What a mess.

 

[mattiloy]

12 hours ago, Neil said:

Bma are a trade union, who are against too many doctors being trained up in case it negatively affects doctors pay. 

Lol no they aren’t 

[mattiloy]

The BMA doesn’t like the creeping privatisation subtext to Streeting’s remarks on performance in healthcare. Or the fact that his office was funded to the tune of 15k by a private health lobbyist.

[steviewevie]

1 hour ago, lost said:

Nobody seemed to realise what would happen when it wasn't windy. What a mess.

 

ok...I don't get how all this works...but these are spot prices right? They fluctuate all over the place at different times for different reasons, and won't really affect long term energy prices?

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

ok...I don't get how all this works...but these are spot prices right? They fluctuate all over the place at different times for different reasons, and won't really affect long term energy prices?

He’s conveniently missing that other countries aren’t paying the sky high prices that we are and they have renewables too. If he did acknowledge that then he’d have to admit that the Tories have made a colossal error which of course he never wants to do. 

[Neil]

49 minutes ago, mattiloy said:

Lol no they aren’t 

yes they are, via the govt, they control the number of doctors.

[steviewevie]

Just now, Neil said:

yes they are, via the govt, they control the number of doctors.

I see trouble ahead for Labour and the NHS (if Labour get in power).

[Guest]

I see worse for the NHS (and there has been) under the Tories. 

[lost]

27 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

he’d have to admit that the Tories have made a colossal error which of course he never wants to do. 

Eh? what do think what a mess means. They've made a massive fuck up. Hopefully labour will invest in more reliable forms of energy.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, lost said:

Eh? what do think what a mess means. They've made a massive fuck up. Hopefully labour will invest in more reliable forms of energy.

tidal? interconnecters with europe for other renewables? power storage?

[Neil]

24 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

I see worse for the NHS (and there has been) under the Tories. 

i was impressed (i saw a lot of it) with how well the nhs was coping and still operating during the pandemic.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Neil

[lost]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

interconnecters with europe 

We've got that now:

 

[steviewevie]

3 minutes ago, lost said:

We've got that now:

 

yes, kind of meant for supplies from other renewables elsewhere..

[steviewevie]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

i was impressed (i saw a lot of it) with how well the nhs was coping and still operating during the pandemic.

it has coped, but is also under a lot of pressure, big delays, cancellations, prioritising, and a stressed, overworked workforce who are sick of getting less money for a harder job.

[Neil]

10 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

a stressed, overworked workforce

yeah, i saw that, and saw how things fell apart cos of it. when staff had the time to do their job properly, they did it very well.