news & politics:discussion

[steviewevie]

1/ we will halve inflation

2/ we will grow economy

3/ national debt falling

4/ NHS waiting lists will fall

5/ new laws to stop small boats

Simple.

[steviewevie]

he gets higher and higher excitedly reaching a crescendo...and then falls to a reassuring cuddly mush.

Too much coke.

[steviewevie]

kin'ell...he's going to sort out everything!

[steviewevie]

what an odd speech.

[fred quimby]

1 hour ago, gary1979666 said:

Big ole Thanos thought that killing half the population of the universe would sort everything out. (Needed 6 special gems to do this, but the pesky Avengers try to stop him - decent set of films if you have time / inclanation)

Not a bad idea. Preferred the Utopia way of doing things, UK version put something in the water that will sterilise people. Or better the US version where under the guise of a pandemic you give people a vaccine that sterilises part of the population for a couple of generations. 

[Neil]

@lost what's your take on the future of crypto. After all the hype and the speculation, the bottom has dropped out of it and some commontators are saying that in two years people will be saying, how did we ever fall for such an empty shell. 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, fred quimby said:

Not a bad idea. Preferred the Utopia way of doing things, UK version put something in the water that will sterilise people. Or better the US version where under the guise of a pandemic you give people a vaccine that sterilises part of the population for a couple of generations. 

we've just done the latter haven't we?

[Neil]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

1/ we will halve inflation

2/ we will grow economy

3/ national debt falling

4/ NHS waiting lists will fall

5/ new laws to stop small boats

Simple.

Halve inflation and grow the economy, are no brainer, with success  baked in by circumstances 

[fred quimby]

4 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

we've just done the latter haven't we?

I am hoping so

[lost]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

@lost what's your take on the future of crypto. After all the hype and the speculation, the bottom has dropped out of it and some commontators are saying that in two years people will be saying, how did we ever fall for such an empty shell. 

I think its definitely got a future as central banks are looking at it. Issue is at the moment the amount of liquidity being drained from the system. Its not just crypto all the covid bubble stuff is being hit, the stay at home stocks like peloton have been crushed too. 

[steviewevie]

9 minutes ago, Neil said:

Halve inflation and grow the economy, are no brainer, with success  baked in by circumstances 

definitely for inflation...not so sure about the economy growing bit, but maybe there will be some small growth by time of next election.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, lost said:

I think its definitely got a future as central banks are looking at it. Issue is at the moment the amount of liquidity being drained from the system. Its not just crypto all the covid bubble stuff is being hit, the stay at home stocks like peloton have been crushed too. 

Peloton are running some promo at the moment about their high resubscription rates. Not quite the same thing as its a real thing and a useful thing not an emperor's new clothes  overhyped imagined thing. 

Edited January 4, 2023 by Neil
correcting typo

[fred quimby]

1 hour ago, Barry Fish said:

Been funny to watch the rise and fall of Peloton.  It was clear it was going to be one of those boom and pop covid businesses but it still didn't stop idiots buying in.

Nothing wrong buying low selling high. It's knowing that and plenty of people don't, worked with a few

[Guest]

So that speech by Sunak was not good. His style of public speaking is not for me at all. 

[steviewevie]

8 minutes ago, Ozanne said:

So that speech by Sunak was not good. His style of public speaking is not for me at all. 

No, he isn't great at it, bit too silicon valley weirdness, but to be fair he did set himself some goals and didn't hide from tricky questions from the press, but to be unfair not sure he gets to set these goals on whether we should elect him or not, but to be fair Starmer isn't the greatest public speaker either (but has the luxury that everything is fucked and tories have been in government for 12 years and really it is time for change).

[steviewevie]

 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

No, he isn't great at it, bit too silicon valley weirdness, but to be fair he did set himself some goals and didn't hide from tricky questions from the press, but to be unfair not sure he gets to set these goals on whether we should elect him or not, but to be fair Starmer isn't the greatest public speaker either (but has the luxury that everything is fucked and tories have been in government for 12 years and really it is time for change).

You are spot on with the tech comparison, quite often with Sunak I feel like I’m at a tech conference and he’s announcing their next product.

He did set some goals and tried to outline a vision although he was all over the place with it. 

[Ryan1984]

Saw a few people commenting how similar Rishi’s speech was to a CBeebies presenter. Seems unfair on the CBeebies lot?

[Guest]

 

Pledges worked well for Ed. 

[steviewevie]

11 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

Well thats my point.  During covid people where talking absolute bollocks about forever changes.  Some people where stupid enough to put money behind that thinking.  So now they get to be dumb and poor 😛 

or the gyms were shut.

[steviewevie]

all going on with voting for new speaker of the house in some place called US congress. Republican party are a mess.

5th vote now.

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

all going on with voting for new speaker of the house in some place called US congress. Republican party are a mess.

5th vote now.

Now up to 6, and consensus is that he's failed that as well. Indeed, he's yet to actually eclipse the Democrat candidate at any of the votes despite the fact that the only way the Dem would win is if 7 Republicans voted that way, which feels unlikely.

[charlierc]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

Oddly, the last person I heard mention this was Ahir Shah on Frankie Boyle's New World Order a few weeks ago.

Much as Lynch has largely been praised for handling the media well in this current phase, what's gone on with this certainly feels like something to question him about.

[Guest]

This is some length to go to just to stop Nurses from having a pay rise. 

[steviewevie]

Starmer speech today. We are being spoilt.