jadel74 Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 I feel like this isn't going to be two separate weekends as much as it's going to be one long festival that starts the first weekend and ends at the end of the second weekend. Gives them the opportunity to have the bands they wanted over the last two years plus bands that are ready to come out and play in 2022 (Arcade Fire). Maybe the mid-week shows happen in local clubs and the big headliners go on as normal at the festival grounds. Not sure the Coachella model works for this festival. As a former avidly loyal Coachella-goer (10 year stretch), the two weekend format works because it's California (rich kid assholes), the festival is part of the Gen Z pop culture landscape, and the festival essentially sold it's soul by moving towards a popular music format--when you need to sell 240k tickets at $500/pop, you have to move this direction. They still have their music fan nuggets, but the Coachella that books to Beyonce to headline isn't the same Coachella from 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, jadel74 said: I feel like this isn't going to be two separate weekends as much as it's going to be one long festival that starts the first weekend and ends at the end of the second weekend. Gives them the opportunity to have the bands they wanted over the last two years plus bands that are ready to come out and play in 2022 (Arcade Fire). Maybe the mid-week shows happen in local clubs and the big headliners go on as normal at the festival grounds. Not sure the Coachella model works for this festival. As a former avidly loyal Coachella-goer (10 year stretch), the two weekend format works because it's California (rich kid assholes), the festival is part of the Gen Z pop culture landscape, and the festival essentially sold it's soul by moving towards a popular music format--when you need to sell 240k tickets at $500/pop, you have to move this direction. They still have their music fan nuggets, but the Coachella that books to Beyonce to headline isn't the same Coachella from 2004. Isn't that the model they have every year? For as long as I can remember they have had shows from the Monday in local clubs i.e. the festival is normally 7 consecutive days, closing in an afterparty on the Sunday night in Sala Apolo in town. They used to have afternoon shows before the festival too, with some of the bands from the main festival doubling up but those sadly got scrapped/greatly watered down in the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesser Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 6:16 PM, Nesser said: Sorry but not buying the two different lineups theory at all ok nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Nesser said: ok nevermind On 5/2/2021 at 6:16 PM, Nesser said: Sorry but not buying the two different lineups theory at all You can tell you've been waiting 2 years for Primavera and with another year still to wait, when you start having a discussion with yourself. 😛 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesser Posted May 3, 2021 Report Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) . Edited May 3, 2021 by Nesser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Here's how another festival handles the two weekend thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 38 minutes ago, xxialac said: Here's how another festival handles the two weekend thing. I’m guessing that’s (roughly) the same lineup both weekends then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, FloorFiller said: I’m guessing that’s (roughly) the same lineup both weekends then? They have square brackets on the poster if you look closely to see which acts are only playing one of the weekends. Definitely won't be exactly same as new Primavera format as Primavera will for sure have some different headliners e.g. NIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, xxialac said: They have square brackets on the poster if you look closely to see which acts are only playing one of the weekends. Definitely won't be exactly same as new Primavera format as Primavera will for sure have some different headliners e.g. NIN. yeah, the differences there is mostly on the bottom part of the poster. I doubt it will be the same for PS. we'll see differences higher up the poster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: yeah, the differences there is mostly on the bottom part of the poster. I doubt it will be the same for PS. we'll see differences higher up the poster That's how I see it too. Not long to wait now. Lineup(s) out in just 4 weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_89 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, xxialac said: That's how I see it too. Not long to wait now. Lineup(s) out in just 4 weeks... Damn, just a month away! What du people wishing for, that was not booked for the last two editions? I hope we're seeing Crumb there, lovely new album. Same with Spirit of the Beehive. Would also love to see Darkside and MBV again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, xxialac said: Here's how another festival handles the two weekend thing. This is what I'd consider most likely to happen. Even if Mad Cool doesn't return and they pull in Haim, Phoebe Bridgers and Cardi B that will not make up another line up. Those acts might also just have planned July/August Dates for 2022 and are maybe not available early to mid June. Edited May 4, 2021 by Quadrophobia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hip Priest Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 OM, who were on the 2020 and 2021 line-ups in Barcelona and Porto, are touring northern Europe in early June but have a two-day gap over both "Primavera weekends". http://www.omvibratory.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcrawler Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hip Priest said: OM, who were on the 2020 and 2021 line-ups in Barcelona and Porto, are touring northern Europe in early June but have a two-day gap over both "Primavera weekends". http://www.omvibratory.com/ I think they were due to play Primavera Porto too? I suppose they could do both on that weekend, looking at their dates they don’t seem to need much rest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnmentaluk Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Maybe this will be the year where we get The Chemical Brothers. Love to have a Scottish day on one of the stages. Vaselines , teenage fanclub , belle and Sebastian, mogwai and Jesus and Mary chain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Fnmentaluk said: Maybe this will be the year where we get The Chemical Brothers. They'll be at Sonar which surely rules them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 I've looked at all headliners and their tour dates up to know and if they'd be able to play both weekends. Very thin data yet Tyler - Dates in Warsaw (Friday 3rd of June), Amsterdam (Tuesday 7th of June), was supposed to be at NOS Thursday (would be the 10th in 2022). -> could play Warsaw -> BCN -> Amsterdam -> Porto -> BCN The National - Dates 5th through 7th in UK/Ireland and 10th in Spain. -> Could play BCN on both weekends either Thursday or Saturday. weren't gonna be at NOS Pavement - unclear if they will still be exclusive in 2022, but I'd think so. A second BCN weekend wouldn be a problem Bad Bunny - only confirmed date fo 2022 is June 25th in Switzerland. His 2021 rescheduled dates shouldn't clash with a second weekend though. No rescheduled Dates yet from Gorillaz, Tame Impala, Massive Attack, Beck or The Strokes With some of the undercard bands looking like theyd be able to play two weekends I'd say we are heading for line ups that are roughly similar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: I've looked at all headliners and their tour dates up to know and if they'd be able to play both weekends. Very thin data yet Tyler - Dates in Warsaw (Friday 3rd of June), Amsterdam (Tuesday 7th of June), was supposed to be at NOS Thursday (would be the 10th in 2022). -> could play Warsaw -> BCN -> Amsterdam -> Porto -> BCN The National - Dates 5th through 7th in UK/Ireland and 10th in Spain. -> Could play BCN on both weekends either Thursday or Saturday. weren't gonna be at NOS Pavement - unclear if they will still be exclusive in 2022, but I'd think so. A second BCN weekend wouldn be a problem Bad Bunny - only confirmed date fo 2022 is June 25th in Switzerland. His 2021 rescheduled dates shouldn't clash with a second weekend though. No rescheduled Dates yet from Gorillaz, Tame Impala, Massive Attack, Beck or The Strokes With some of the undercard bands looking like theyd be able to play two weekends I'd say we are heading for line ups that are roughly similar I don't think the issue with headliners doing both weekends is availability. I think the issue is having too many headliners - from the 9 of 2021, let's say 7 can still make it - you still want to add some new artists with albums out this year (St. Vincent, Lana Del Ray, Rosalia, NiN are the obvious suspects, probably more) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: I don't think the issue with headliners doing both weekends is availability. I think the issue is having too many headliners - from the 9 of 2021, let's say 7 can still make it - you still want to add some new artists with albums out this year (St. Vincent, Lana Del Ray, Rosalia, NiN are the obvious suspects, probably more) I dont disagree. But I still don't think that means they brought in enough Acts to have two completely distinct line ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: I dont disagree. But I still don't think that means they brought in enough Acts to have two completely distinct line ups. Yeah, I agree. I assume about half will do both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnmentaluk Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Flaming lips announced some dates for next year , play London 2 June . Big gap before the next date , could play both weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judithmt Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 23 hours ago, Fnmentaluk said: Had a look for accommodation for wed 1 June to Sunday 5 June, for 2022, booked ibis at glories , free cancellation and pay on arrival , got it for £253 . Stayed there before , great location Thanks! Booked it as well. Is it ok on airco and noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Side note. Governors Ball 2021 is likely going ahead in September, so the acts they originally blocked for PS are possibilities now, bc they wont return to GvtBall in 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: Side note. Governors Ball 2021 is likely going ahead in September, so the acts they originally blocked for PS are possibilities now, bc they wont return to GvtBall in 2022 Abysmal. Edited May 4, 2021 by xxialac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadel74 Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 19 hours ago, xxialac said: Isn't that the model they have every year? For as long as I can remember they have had shows from the Monday in local clubs i.e. the festival is normally 7 consecutive days, closing in an afterparty on the Sunday night in Sala Apolo in town. They used to have afternoon shows before the festival too, with some of the bands from the main festival doubling up but those sadly got scrapped/greatly watered down in the last two years. I'm talking about it starting Wednesday and running through the following Sunday, so it would span two weekends over maybe 11 or 12 days. I personally don't see a Coachella (now ACL) model working in Barcelona post-pandemic, where they do nearly identical lineups over two weekends. As an airline employee, I can tell you demand for travel and experiences is definitely pent up, but I'm struggling to see how they'll be able to sell out two weekends with the same lineup. Coachella and ACL have different markets, different audiences, different economies, etc. I'm just happy to even have a festival to talk about at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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