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[mandana]

Renewed my membership yesterday, thought it might bring me a little luck but looking to the resales now

[eFestivals]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Just a quick bump for this one today … gold helps fund this site hopefully a few of you will include some gold as part of your celebrations and run up to June 

Thanks! GOLD subscribers do massively help the site. Thank you to all the new subscribers in the past few days, we really appreciate it.

 

There's a £5 discount on annual membership for the rest of today! Just use the code GLASTOSALE at checkout:

https://fstv.ls/adfree

 

Feel free to post here when you subscribe, to let others know 😎

[Crazyfool01]

6 minutes ago, mandana said:

Renewed my membership yesterday, thought it might bring me a little luck but looking to the resales now

Stick with it and competitions there’s still a good chance 

[mandana]

2 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

Stick with it and competitions there’s still a good chance 

yep, definitely going to try again and again,

[mandana]

Life without pop ups, and supporting a good cause!

[Looother]

Resolved to subscribe if I managed to get a ticket this year, after joining a spreadsheet organised through this forum. In the end my six sorted ourselves out without needing anyone's help, but a deal's a deal.

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, Looother said:

Resolved to subscribe if I managed to get a ticket this year, after joining a spreadsheet organised through this forum. In the end my six sorted ourselves out without needing anyone's help, but a deal's a deal.

nice one ... its so much easier with no ads 

Edited Sunday at 05:56 PM by Crazyfool01

[phillyfaddle]

Been a Gold member for years. DO IT!

Edited Sunday at 06:32 PM by phillyfaddle

[Clareno7]

I’ve been a gold me ever for a few years now. I get so much from this forum, it would be rude not to. 

[Aragorn]

Just renewed for a year

[assorted]

Got a Gold membership to show my thanks to this place for help in getting tickets. I've been Gold before but had let it drop cause of dramas best left forgotten.

 

Also, I wanted to compliment this place for the tips and tricks thread this year. This was the opposite of last year and the HOSTS hack. In both places (here and TheOtherPlace), info this year was shared freely and generously. As maybe there should be for a new system and how to game it, there was an issue of too much info and contradicting info, but I was able to figure out who to trust and who to ignore and it really worked out for me in terms of advice and tactics. This was the opposite of last year where the HOSTS hack was known by regulars and even some moderators and not shared while they or users they knew cleaned up. (It's fine, I still got tickets, it just hurt my feeling of community here).

 

It's also a little bittersweet that when I came back here to buy the membership, I discovered that on literally the same thread that helped me get tickets there was now an attempt to organize a letter writing campaign and demands that tickets acquired by people using the tips and tricks suggested in that very thread be cancelled. 

 

I expect this will blow over with time, but it's still an embarrassing and disappointing look so I'm posting my thanks for that thread and the community coming together to help each other here instead in hopes that that formerly great, now embarrassing thread slides into oblivion now that its taken that turn.

[MrZigster]

Well. I appear to have subscribed this morning. 

 

No recollection of it though.  Had been meaning to do it for years . Probably thought I was still within the discount window.

 

Was drowning my unsuccessful punter sorrows I guess.

[MrZigster]

19 minutes ago, assorted said:

Got a Gold membership to show my thanks to this place for help in getting tickets. I've been Gold before but had let it drop cause of dramas best left forgotten.

 

Also, I wanted to compliment this place for the tips and tricks thread this year. This was the opposite of last year and the HOSTS hack. In both places (here and TheOtherPlace), info this year was shared freely and generously. As maybe there should be for a new system and how to game it, there was an issue of too much info and contradicting info, but I was able to figure out who to trust and who to ignore and it really worked out for me in terms of advice and tactics. This was the opposite of last year where the HOSTS hack was known by regulars and even some moderators and not shared while they or users they knew cleaned up. (It's fine, I still got tickets, it just hurt my feeling of community here).

 

It's also a little bittersweet that when I came back here to buy the membership, I discovered that on literally the same thread that helped me get tickets there was now an attempt to organize a letter writing campaign and demands that tickets acquired by people using the tips and tricks suggested in that very thread be cancelled. 

 

I expect this will blow over with time, but it's still an embarrassing and disappointing look so I'm posting my thanks for that thread and the community coming together to help each other here instead in hopes that that formerly great, now embarrassing thread slides into oblivion now that its taken that turn.

 

Hang on? There was a hosts file hack last year that wasn't shared on here? That's not the eFests/Glastonbury spirit that I've usually experienced on these forums.

[assorted]

1 minute ago, MrZigster said:

 

Hang on? There was a hosts file hack last year that wasn't shared on here? That's not the eFests/Glastonbury spirit that I've usually experienced on these forums.

 

I don't know if you're messing with me but yes, that's correct. This place still did better than TheOtherPlace when it came to the HOSTS thing. Here there were mods and users who knew about it and didn't share it until after both sales. TheOtherPlace they literally auto-deleted any mention of it while helping the other mods and preferred users.

 

But! This year was so much better and open in both places so I'm sorry I referenced it. 

[Alvoram]

The hosts file hack has been public knowledge for many, many years. It works some, and doesn't others. People try it every year though, and because most years it doesn't work, (it was assumed to be patched) they obviously won't know if it will work on a given year until it works. (Which is a bit late for sharing.)  

The site / efests has a good working relationship with the festival. You guys can share whatever tips you want to, and obtain your tickets however you want. But we can't be seen to be encouraging or advertising ticket hacks. 

People run their own buying groups from here, on whatsapp, which are open to new signups before the day. I strongly recommend you sign up to one, as a lot of planning and discussion takes place in these, which is probably more sensible than discussing things in public. Again, many groups openly advertise as open to new signups, they're not some 'secret' organisation.  

[assorted]

33 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

The hosts file hack has been public knowledge for many, many years. It works some, and doesn't others. People try it every year though, and because most years it doesn't work, (it was assumed to be patched) they obviously won't know if it will work on a given year until it works. (Which is a bit late for sharing.)  

The site / efests has a good working relationship with the festival. You guys can share whatever tips you want to, and obtain your tickets however you want. But we can't be seen to be encouraging or advertising ticket hacks. 

 

Last year, there was a 3 day window between coach and general where it was known it worked. I accept your rule going forward, but that was not the rule last year, and it was openly discussed after the sale here (there was still a resale coming up and there was no ban on discussing it back then, but it was then patched for the resale after all the fuss). If there was a rule against discussing hacks I would not have felt kinda betrayed by the hiding of it here cause if it's against the rules it's against the rules.

 

But going forward, do you mind helping me understand the difference between a tip and a hack? 

I agree HOSTS is very much a hack, but:

is running 30 chrome profiles a hack?

what about the firefox 100 tabs thing? is that a hack?

is using the back button to get as many tickets as you can fit in 10 minutes a hack?

is using remote IPs and software designed for beating concert queues (aka: bots) a hack?

 

i'm not trying to start trouble, i actively use here and TheOtherPlace for exactly this kind of info so I want to know the rules and lines as i've no interest in being trouble. 

[Alvoram]

33 minutes ago, assorted said:

 

Last year, there was a 3 day window between coach and general where it was known it worked. I accept your rule going forward, but that was not the rule last year, and it was openly discussed after the sale here (there was still a resale coming up and there was no ban on discussing it back then, but it was then patched for the resale after all the fuss). If there was a rule against discussing hacks I would not have felt kinda betrayed by the hiding of it here cause if it's against the rules it's against the rules.

 

But going forward, do you mind helping me understand the difference between a tip and a hack? 

I agree HOSTS is very much a hack, but:

is running 30 chrome profiles a hack?

what about the firefox 100 tabs thing? is that a hack?

is using the back button to get as many tickets as you can fit in 10 minutes a hack?

is using remote IPs and software designed for beating concert queues (aka: bots) a hack?

 

i'm not trying to start trouble, i actively use here and TheOtherPlace for exactly this kind of info so I want to know the rules and lines as i've no interest in being trouble. 

Sorry for the confusion, we as moderators can't be seen to be discussing them. That would not be a good look. 

There's no rule against members discussing these things. But it is a public forum, you do not have to be a member to read posts here, and the forums have, at times, been monitored by festival officials and festival suppliers. So naturally, those members with a little common sense, choose to organise themselves into groups to discuss these things elsewhere, these groups are usually open to other members who may want to join in the lead up to a sale. I hope I'm making it more clear this time. 

I also use OOF / Discord from time to time, that is also a public server, accessible by anybody, even more so than here, as Discord has very little or no analytics to my knowledge, depending on bot setup, all the while, Discord servers can be accessed invisibly. So whilst I cannot speak for them, I imagine that may be why they were cautious. (P.s, you don't need to censor their name in general discussion, advertising is not permitted, but neither OOF or Discord are 'dirty words' when it comes to general discussion, just like Reddit, X, Facebook etc. A lot of us use multiple platforms.) 

[assorted]

oh OK you just meant mods, I think I get it now. That's cool and I understand.

 

I run my own tickets groups from the USA so I don't expect I'll ever be on these other internet organized ticket groups you are talking about that spread and share info. I'm the one in my group that's obsessed enough to monitor here and Discord and tell my groups what to do for the sales so sadly I won't be getting insider knowledge from these other groups so I'm limited to these public places. And the best I can do to give back is a gold membership, to show my appreciation for allowing this open conversation between users.

 

Yes, I get mods of course couldn't post the HOSTS hack, if I suggested otherwise it was ignorance of their position at the time. Cheers.

[MrZigster]

Hmm. Didn't mean to open a can of worms. 

 

Are we talking about the same hosts file hack which got me tickets for 2013 after @Neil (who was a little bit more a moderator at the time) posted it on here?

 

Don't tell me that same hack worked in later years. Or are we talking about a different one?

[incident]

2 minutes ago, MrZigster said:

Hmm. Didn't mean to open a can of worms. 

 

Are we talking about the same hosts file hack which got me tickets for 2013 after @Neil (who was a little bit more a moderator at the time) posted it on here?

 

Don't tell me that same hack worked in later years. Or are we talking about a different one?

 

Same concept, different IP addresses

[Alvoram]

8 hours ago, assorted said:

oh OK you just meant mods, I think I get it now. That's cool and I understand.

 

I run my own tickets groups from the USA so I don't expect I'll ever be on these other internet organized ticket groups you are talking about that spread and share info. I'm the one in my group that's obsessed enough to monitor here and Discord and tell my groups what to do for the sales so sadly I won't be getting insider knowledge from these other groups so I'm limited to these public places. And the best I can do to give back is a gold membership, to show my appreciation for allowing this open conversation between users.

 

Yes, I get mods of course couldn't post the HOSTS hack, if I suggested otherwise it was ignorance of their position at the time. Cheers.

I don't think any of the groups would have any issues adding an efests member to the whatsapp only. 😉

I'm sure my group wouldn't. Might even mean we have more helpers on resale day, if your groups are already sorted in the main sale one year. 🙂

(Depending how many groups you have on yours, it's not even beyond the realms of possibility that you could add them all into another buying group. I 'think' they tend to try and keep it below or around 20 groups of 6 in total.)

[incident]

4 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

I 'think' they tend to try and keep it below or around 20 groups of 6 in total.)

 

We're a bit above that, and tbh for my taste I think we're bursting at the seems and ideally would get below 20 at some point (through attrition, of course, ideally not eviction).

 

When people complain about large groups, they do have a fair point in that - correctly managed - a large group does give a numbers advantage specifically when it comes to things like people piling on to help the last few over the line. But the key phrase there is "correctly managed".

 

It's very common to underestimate the absolute f**kload of work that goes into managing that, and making sure everyones data is correct, they're all on the same page and pulling out all the stops. The bigger the group, the more difficult that becomes and even with delegated responsibility it's something we struggle with every year and did again this year.

 

It only takes a fairly small number of people to take what they have for granted, and decide to sleep in on the Sunday morning, for that numbers advantage to very quickly turn to a numbers disadvantage.

 

So yeah, thank the person doing the legwork in your group.

[Alvoram]

5 minutes ago, incident said:

 

We're a bit above that, and tbh for my taste I think we're bursting at the seems and ideally would get below 20 at some point (through attrition, of course, ideally not eviction).

 

When people complain about large groups, they do have a fair point in that - correctly managed - a large group does give a numbers advantage specifically when it comes to things like people piling on to help the last few over the line. But the key phrase there is "correctly managed".

 

It's very common to underestimate the absolute f**kload of work that goes into managing that, and making sure everyones data is correct, they're all on the same page and pulling out all the stops. The bigger the group, the more difficult that becomes and even with delegated responsibility it's something we struggle with every year and did again this year.

 

It only takes a fairly small number of people to take what they have for granted, and decide to sleep in on the Sunday morning, for that numbers advantage to very quickly turn to a numbers disadvantage.

 

So yeah, thank the person doing the legwork in your group.

Do you organise your group?

Looks like a boat load of work, having all the spreadsheets done, our group's leaders verify each number themselves and mark it on the sheet as verified, then to have people swapping and changing last minute too. We all definitely owe our group leaders a pint. 

[incident]

6 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

Do you organise your group?

 

Nope, thank f**k.

 

I'm just the tech guy. Though it means I see the sheer amount of work and bullshit they have to deal with closer than most hence my huge amount of respect.