Football 2021/2022

[Neil]

just listening to the 606 b winding up the city fans "where's your champions league trophy?

[priest17]

Ciiiiiity ciiiiiity the best team in the land and all the world

[Neil]

Just now, priest17 said:

Ciiiiiity ciiiiiity the best team in the land and all the world

not when you were bettered by  Real. 😛 

[charlierc]

I kinda feel bad for relegating Burnley, given I'm aware for Newcastle's drops in 2009 and 2016 how miserable relegation is, and that I'm aware their Glazer-style leveraged buyout could make next season very difficult. But it is what it is alas.

11th from being 20th in December and being the last team to win in the Premier League this season is a pretty phenomenal turnaround.

Having seen the highlights, meanwhile, I wonder if there's any scenario where Norwich would've beaten Spurs to deny them a Champions League spot given how badly their defence collapsed.

[charlierc]

3 hours ago, charlierc said:

As it stands, the title race isn't exactly being decided by the final day with both Liverpool and Man City failing to win... interesting.

Well... that's how it briefly looked I guess.

[kaosmark2]

3 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I kinda feel bad for relegating Burnley, given I'm aware for Newcastle's drops in 2009 and 2016 how miserable relegation is, and that I'm aware their Glazer-style leveraged buyout could make next season very difficult. But it is what it is alas.

11th from being 20th in December and being the last team to win in the Premier League this season is a pretty phenomenal turnaround.

Having seen the highlights, meanwhile, I wonder if there's any scenario where Norwich would've beaten Spurs to deny them a Champions League spot given how badly their defence collapsed.

I feel bad for Burnley, but I'm seriously happy for Leeds. I wanted Everton to go down because that club is just a clusterfuck of bad decisions over seasons, and they'd inevitably come back within 3 years anyway. Even with Bielsa gone though, Leeds are entertaining, and I want to see entertaining wild teams in the Prem. Burnley have been another of these 11th-18th teams that don't do much, and will probably be forgotten in 5 years.

From reading, Howe made good noises about not over-recruiting and trying to add to a good squad, which is a huge distance from what things looked and felt like in November. I'd much prefer to see 3-5 players signed and a 7th-10th finish than trying to overhaul everything. You don't want players who've done well the last 6 months to feel disposable.

[priest17]

12 minutes ago, Neil said:

not when you were bettered by  Real. 😛 

We were chanting that in the third division I wouldn't read into it too deeply

[WS_Jack_III]

@kaosmark2 @charlierc

 

It's our highest points total in 8 years! We didn't win a match for 14, I cannot describe what an incredible turn around it has been from Eddie, the team and the ownership.

[Punksnotdead]

1 hour ago, priest17 said:

We were chanting that in the third division I wouldn't read into it too deeply

"And its Cheltenham Town, Cheltenham Town FC, we're by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen"! - I think it's fair to say all football fans chant some ludicrous shit sometimes - it doesn't mean we actually believe it! 😄

[pink_triangle]

2 hours ago, charlierc said:

I kinda feel bad for relegating Burnley, given I'm aware for Newcastle's drops in 2009 and 2016 how miserable relegation is, and that I'm aware their Glazer-style leveraged buyout could make next season very difficult. But it is what it is alas.

 

The Burnley existence of trying to get 40 points every season sounds pretty miserable to me as well.

[pink_triangle]

I went to watch Wrexham at Wembley for the third time in 10 years today and saw my third successive loss. I would happily never visit that stadium again!

[pryce]

8 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

I went to watch Wrexham at Wembley for the third time in 10 years today and saw my third successive loss. I would happily never visit that stadium again!

been 4 times with Shrewsbury, and lost 4 times, horrible place

[The Nal]

Great to see AC Milan back at the top.

Unbelievable recruitment job from Maldini and his son is now the 3rd Maldini now to win Serie A. 

And look who won another league. The player Utd let go for free 4 years ago. 

[lost]

41 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Great to see AC Milan back at the top.

Unbelievable recruitment job from Maldini and his son is now the 3rd Maldini now to win Serie A. 

And look who won another league. The player Utd let go for free 4 years ago. 

On a similar note how Tyrone Mings gets in the England team ahead of Tomori is peak Premier league superiority complex. He's absolutely flourished under Maldini.

Edited May 23, 2022 by lost

[kaosmark2]

26 minutes ago, lost said:

On a similar note how Tyrone Mings gets in the England team ahead of Tomori is peak Premier league superiority complex. He's absolutely flourished under Maldini.

I'm not sure it's a superiority complex so much as laziness of scouting. Watching players in other leagues requires extra effort, and the media rarely push for it.

[pink_triangle]

4 hours ago, pryce said:

been 4 times with Shrewsbury, and lost 4 times, horrible place

The one time we won there I was in the airport! Luckily if we make the play offs it's at West Ham so I can see of the curse extends to all London stadiums.

I just find it such a sterile stadium lacking in character and atmosphere, but maybe my experience is just tainted by failure!

[Beerqueen]

5 hours ago, pryce said:

been 4 times with Shrewsbury, and lost 4 times, horrible place

I was going to say the same - except it's three for me, I was at Bearded Theory for the fourth defeat.

[charlierc]

20 hours ago, Punksnotdead said:

"And its Cheltenham Town, Cheltenham Town FC, we're by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen"! - I think it's fair to say all football fans chant some ludicrous shit sometimes - it doesn't mean we actually believe it! 😄

You hear a lot of that in the lower leagues tbf. Although I don't seem to recall hearing it as much as I did about a decade ago.

[charlierc]

19 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

The Burnley existence of trying to get 40 points every season sounds pretty miserable to me as well.

It's not great either. Particularly as there does seem to be an almost unspoken element to that where eventually, if you settle for that survival specialist role, at one point it doesn't work. Wigan, Swansea and Sunderland, for instance, pulled off a few great escapes but never stabilised upon that before falling through the trapdoor.

Burnley feel like the one of the 3 going down least likely to challenge imo, however. There is something odd about the takeover deal that has an effective relegation penalty to pay back tens of millions relating to the takeover, which might well hoover up the parachute payments before they can help out.

Edited May 23, 2022 by charlierc

[zahidf]

Arsenal in the champs league after all?

 

[Neil]

result, zouma nil, cat won 🙂

 

[The Nal]

1 hour ago, Neil said:

result, zouma nil, cat won 🙂

 

Should be thrown in jail.

[Neil]

Worst move in football, milner quitting City to go win the champions league, maybe twice. 

[pink_triangle]

Klopp manager of the season. I would have gone Franks, I think keeping Brentford up so comfortably one of the best achievement in recent years.

[WS_Jack_III]

6 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

Klopp manager of the season. I would have gone Franks, I think keeping Brentford up so comfortably one of the best achievement in recent years.

Mental that Klopp got it, failed in his task. Eddie was clearly the winner. Won the fan vote but counts for 5% apparently.