2023 Festival

[gregory]

47 minutes ago, emi10 said:

hozier instead of capaldi? 

sadly (lol) he's in the US that weekend

[On The Blend]

I do love the creativity and ambition on these forums when people are eyeing some gem of a booking like Neutral Milk Hotel while the FR team have already booked Wombats into Two Door and gone to the pub early.

[jcarb]

Are we just ignoring Fred Again...?
Easily has the pull for the slot and he's around since he's doing a 4 day stint at Ally Pally a week later.
Day tickets as a minimum would sell out for that day.

[nathanh]

5 minutes ago, jcarb said:

Are we just ignoring Fred Again...?
Easily has the pull for the slot and he's around since he's doing a 4 day stint at Ally Pally a week later.
Day tickets as a minimum would sell out for that day.

Hes playing in Scotland on the Saturday so yes

[gfa]

16 hours ago, VCK said:

"Yet"? He was never headline sized in 2007, never mind now.

The promoters need to do the right thing and get QOTSA in. They owe us for 2021, and unlike then or Rage last year it's not a last minute pull out, so enough time to organise logistics etc.

QOTSA would sell a very poor amount of tickets vs their cost - look how widely they are playing in the UK this year

[BenG92]

16 hours ago, nathanh said:

I have a question for you rock fans in this forum as its not really my genre, would QOTSA really be enough to make you buy a ticket, what would you do for the rest of the day/weekend with not much else catered to you?

QOTSA would sell me and my partner a sunday ticket. Scowl > Inhaler > Nothing But Thieves > Joey & Brae > QOTSA > Killers is a good run, clashes permitting.

Won't be QOTSA though I don't think. 

[Benj]

17 hours ago, gfa said:

 

Impossible to please everyone when theres 4 main genres at the festival and several smaller ones

Exactly, it’s very much a problem they’ve caused themselves by slashing slots and choice though.

A dark fruits day would be a big seller, as long as you don’t alienate everyone else by not offering alternatives at the same time on other stages…

It’s pretty clear now, people aren’t spending £300 to watch Imagine Dragons and Lewis Capaldi and otherwise sit through a single bunch of also rans

 

 

[Benj]

32 minutes ago, gfa said:

QOTSA would sell a very poor amount of tickets vs their cost - look how widely they are playing in the UK this year

Yup. I think they’d placate a lot of people going already but like the headliners themselves, who’ve played everywhere in the last 12 months, they’re obviously not going to help sell out the festival

[gfa]

16 minutes ago, Benj said:

Yup. I think they’d placate a lot of people going already but like the headliners themselves, who’ve played everywhere in the last 12 months, they’re obviously not going to help sell out the festival

The headliners have played a lot sure but thats happened now - QOTSA have heaps of dates this year still to come or only just been

[charlierc]

3 hours ago, gfa said:

QOTSA would sell a very poor amount of tickets vs their cost - look how widely they are playing in the UK this year

Given those arena shows are yet to sell out, there's also that to consider. Plus if anyone wants to see QOTSA, they'd probably just hold out to November and pop along to those dates, like I will be.

[charlierc]

If they somehow got Paramore, who I've noted end their US tour before R&L, that would absolutely make me come along as Killers + Paramore would imo be enough to justify a day trip. That, however, is a proper long-shot booking that I absolutely don't think will happen so I'm not gonna worry about it.

Pulp I think would've been possible but I don't know if they fit the R&L demographic even in the way they did in 2011, let alone their 90s heyday, to say nothing of the idea of whether they plan to return to dormancy until their Mexican shows in November.

It's kinda tricky to predict who they might end up with tbh.

[nathanh]

I find it quite funny to think that this forum is more alive over who could replace an act than it is over any of the acts already announced

[Andre91]

They won’t waste Paramore this year when they can get them to headline MSE next year. 

[On The Blend]

1 hour ago, nathanh said:

I find it quite funny to think that this forum is more alive over who could replace an act than it is over any of the acts already announced

“It is so much simpler to bury reality than it is to dispense of dreams” - Don DeLillo 

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, nathanh said:

I find it quite funny to think that this forum is more alive over who could replace an act than it is over any of the acts already announced

It's like how the most visited page on the BBC Sport any day is the football transfer rumour page rather than any actual signings.

[charlierc]

48 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

They won’t waste Paramore this year when they can get them to headline MSE next year. 

In fairness I didn't think it would happen, just what I'd like to happen. But I reckon it'll be someone much cheaper.

[gfa]

3 hours ago, Andre91 said:

They won’t waste Paramore this year when they can get them to headline MSE next year. 

Paramore would be a shocking MSE headliner.

All 3 this year are stadium sellers and much more in tune with the leaver crowds music taste

[Chad888]

23 hours ago, nathanh said:

I have a question for you rock fans in this forum as its not really my genre, would QOTSA really be enough to make you buy a ticket, what would you do for the rest of the day/weekend with not much else catered to you?

I'm not a rock fan in the slightest. If QOTSA were announced then I would 100% buy that Saturday ticket.

 

I would have been about 15 when 4music on Freeview did the 10pm countdowns of certain videos. One of them had QOTSA Go With the Flow as the rudest music video of all time. I limewired the album Songs for the Deaf (then 5 years old) and listened to it everyday on my paperround (mp3 players only fit 15 songs on).

 

Killers a year later when I was 16 leaving school, as well as 18 in clubs with Mr Brightside. Them 2 would make my teen years complete.

[Andre91]

41 minutes ago, gfa said:

Paramore would be a shocking MSE headliner.

All 3 this year are stadium sellers and much more in tune with the leaver crowds music taste

And those three headliners have done them really well sales wise, right? 
 

Paramore sold out a massive arena tour this year with ease and are a massive mainstream proposition. They’re more than big enough to headline MSE. They are MSE or nothing. They have a fanatic fan base who would buy day tickets to see them. 

[Benj]

54 minutes ago, gfa said:

Paramore would be a shocking MSE headliner.

All 3 this year are stadium sellers and much more in tune with the leaver crowds music taste

And yet have been met with little excitement or ticket sales…

Personally I think the whole the audience is all “leaver crowd” is massively over stated anyway.

As long as there is some representation for them in the lineup, I don’t think it has half as much of an affect on sales anyway. They’ll turn up for 4-5 generally smaller but big in their world names.

Stick Carti, or whoever is 2024’s 2020’s Carti playing 3rd 4th and they’ll lap it up

Everyone is different but when I was a kid I didn’t go for the headliners…still don’t mind so maybe it’s just me.

If reading manage to book the 4-5 big next things, while also having generally appealing headliners, they’ll sell well. 

With the new format, they’re missing out big style on the next big things, going with tried and tested but ultimately thoroughly unexciting bookigns like Inhaler and NBT 🥱 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Benj

[gregory]

The Prodigy?

[Will b]

Paramore would (and have) fit perfectly into that coheadliner slot that we just don’t get with the 2 stages - maybe with someone like fall out boy who are touring again but can see them playing with someone like fender/foals too - a few of their songs like all I wanted, still into you and hard times are (mildly) popular with the indie crowd and tiktok music fans 

alas.. no

can see them for MSE next year easily though 

Edited July 5, 2023 by Will b

[Will b]

2 hours ago, Benj said:

Stick Carti, or whoever is 2024’s 2020’s Carti playing 3rd 4th and they’ll lap it up

Missed a trick this year cause I bet if carti had been announced instead of Capaldi or even moreso imagine dragons, tickets would be sold out or nearly sold out by now

[VCK]

Wasn't KSI meant to headline MSW? What about him as the "cheap" British option?

[nathanh]

5 minutes ago, VCK said:

Wasn't KSI meant to headline MSW? What about him as the "cheap" British option?

Bad option but i guess not out of the picture. I dont think hes really in the music space at the moment I maybe wrong but i haven't seen anything recently regarding music or tours, but maybe an exclusive would make him sell somewhat well and make it so he "warrants" a R&L headline more? 

Edited July 5, 2023 by nathanh