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Also, Robbie Williams is just been announced at the werchter classic

If you do woodwork at school you don't expect to become a master carpenter without years of experience!

Full Robbie dates almost certainly rule him out.  

They are the same thing really aren't they? I thought we very much were arguing if they were big enough to headline.   That said not arsed anymore. They aren't a headline band, they are a hooked in choice, they'll put on a show and get a big crowd but so would Skindred. There we go.