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2023 legend slot


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14 minutes ago, Sbco100 said:

Just don't see it being Spice ! 😞Feel like we would know by now with their tendency to give stuff away 

will be roxy, i've heard its them, and they're a favourite of Michael's.

michael was apparently behind the booking of bryan ferry for west holts a few years ago.

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1 hour ago, Jose Pose said:

In your opinion of course.

The Spice Girls were originally only active for 6 years and were mostly only popular with school girls at the time. They aren’t legends, they’re a novelty pop act.

It’s not stupid if they don’t approach them, it just means they don’t view the legend slot the same way you do, and their criteria for it goes beyond ‘had some cheesy hits once’ and they simply don’t want them for the slot.

They have pretty good experience of booking acts of all sizes, so if they do actually want them, they aren’t going to be “fucking stupid” and not approach them are they.

Lol nah it is fucking stupid if they're not asked. This is totally a hill I'm willing to die on. What's the difference between Kylie getting it and everyone going wild, and the Spice Girls, who were ten times the cultural phenomenon, one of the biggest selling bands of the 90s, and pushed an entire new wave of feminism to young girls?

The idea that British pop like this is somehow ~lesser~ than other stuff needs to be binned off. It's absolutely toxic and not reflective of the way people consume or grow up on music anymore.

If you saw the reaction to some of the "undeserving" pop stuff booked this year you'd understand this would likely be one of the biggest legend slots they've had, both in terms of at the festival and knock-on coverage worldwide. The demographics at the festival have changed, and it's a perfect booking to reflect that and shift the way the legend slot could be used.

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10 hours ago, TheGoodWillOut said:

Saw Duran Duran at Scarborough OAT last year,  really good night but le bons twirls were a little cringe! I kept thinking he's going to put his back out at this rate.  they'd definitely suit the legends slot perfectly as it was one big party

I’d love to see Duran Duran do it. Perfect.

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19 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

Lol nah it is fucking stupid if they're not asked. This is totally a hill I'm willing to die on. What's the difference between Kylie getting it and everyone going wild, and the Spice Girls, who were ten times the cultural phenomenon, one of the biggest selling bands of the 90s, and pushed an entire new wave of feminism to young girls?

The idea that British pop like this is somehow ~lesser~ than other stuff needs to be binned off. It's absolutely toxic and not reflective of the way people consume or grow up on music anymore.

If you saw the reaction to some of the "undeserving" pop stuff booked this year you'd understand this would likely be one of the biggest legend slots they've had, both in terms of at the festival and knock-on coverage worldwide. The demographics at the festival have changed, and it's a perfect booking to reflect that and shift the way the legend slot could be used.

Kylie had hits across four decades and transcends different generations.

I think you’re confusing having some pop songs with being a legend.

If the festival don’t approach them then they’re aren’t “fucking stupid”, they just have a different definition of legend to you.

I'm not arguing that the spice girls aren’t a ‘big’ act or weren't culturally significant, that just doesn’t automatically qualify them as a legend.

Your comments about toxicity are odd too, considering what you said about Kylie, are you saying people are toxic towards British pop acts, but not Australian ones?

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25 minutes ago, Neil said:

weren't you one of those wanting gnr? theyd go down worse than roxy might.

They really wouldn't. Even I'm too young to have been about for Roxy Music's heyday, I have a vague recollection of the crooning years when everyone I knew thought they were dull as fuck.

They are a well respected act amongst a certain crowd (mainly because of Eno who isn't even in this reincarnation) but most young people these days haven't heard of them and older ones haven't given them a passing thought for 30 years. 

GnR still have at least one song on fairly regular rotation on the radio, are very recognisable and at least the youth know who they are. I'm not saying they'd go down a storm to a bursting at the seems Pyramid field but they would certainly go down better than Roxy Music.

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12 minutes ago, Neil said:

will be roxy, i've heard its them, and they're a favourite of Michael's.

michael was apparently behind the booking of bryan ferry for west holts a few years ago.

Locked in for legend slot? Just seems a strange booking to me when I can't even imagine them filling out West Holts, nvm Pyramid

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Feels to me Roxy Music's legacy is more one of influence than anything? Certainly they have no cut through with our group of 30-40 somethings. On the other hand there's a few who have seen GnR at their own gig and will see them at Glastonbury, and I imagine most would watch them on the farm if Axl's voice wasn't fucked (myself included).

Happy for Roxy to do the legend slot as would be nice to be elsewhere for once, and none of the other names in the frame really tickle my fancy. 

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8 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

Kylie had hits across four decades and transcends different generations.

I think you’re confusing having some pop songs with being a legend.

If the festival don’t approach them then they’re aren’t “fucking stupid”, they just have a different definition of legend to you.

I'm not arguing that the spice girls aren’t a ‘big’ act or weren't culturally significant, that just doesn’t automatically qualify them as a legend.

Would you say they werent qualified if the slot was known as The Radio 2 Sunday Teatime Slot? Cos that's what, in reality, the Legends Slot is, not the Godlike Genius Songwriters Slot.

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8 minutes ago, Sbco100 said:

Locked in for legend slot? Just seems a strange booking to me when I can't even imagine them filling out West Holts, nvm Pyramid

not a strange booking, a classic British act, originators of art-rock, a favourite of michael's and bookable for next year as they've reformed.

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5 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Would you say they werent qualified if the slot was known as The Radio 2 Sunday Teatime Slot? Cos that's what, in reality, the Legends Slot is, not the Godlike Genius Songwriters Slot.

I’m not actually saying they aren’t qualified, I just think it’s an odd stance to suggest the festival are “fucking stupid” if they don’t go after them.

Basically, if they don’t agree with me they’re stupid, even though you could easily argue the Spice Girls don’t fit their previous brief for the slot, whether they want to open that slot up to acts like the spice girls is up to them, but it hardly makes them fucking stupid if they don’t does it?

As it happens the vast majority of previous legends do have a huge back catalogue of songs they’ve written though, easier to name the legends that don’t really isn’t it?

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12 minutes ago, kingbadger said:

Feels to me Roxy Music's legacy is more one of influence than anything? Certainly they have no cut through with our group of 30-40 somethings. On the other hand there's a few who have seen GnR at their own gig and will see them at Glastonbury, and I imagine most would watch them on the farm if Axl's voice wasn't fucked (myself included).

Happy for Roxy to do the legend slot as would be nice to be elsewhere for once, and none of the other names in the frame really tickle my fancy. 

Actually this is a shout, will be nice to be elsewhere on Sunday afternoon for once

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2 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

I’m not actually saying they aren’t qualified, I just think it’s an odd stance to suggest the festival are “fucking stupid” if they don’t go after them.

Basically, if they don’t agree with me they’re stupid, even though you could easily argue the Spice Girls don’t fit their previous brief for the slot, whether they want to open that slot up to acts like the spice girls is up to them, but it hardly makes them fucking stupid if they don’t does it?

As it happens the vast majority of previous legends do have a huge back catalogue of songs they’ve written though, easier to name the legends that don’t really isn’t it?

Diana Ross, Kylie, Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Tony Bennett....

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34 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

Kylie had hits across four decades and transcends different generations.

I think you’re confusing having some pop songs with being a legend.

If the festival don’t approach them then they’re aren’t “fucking stupid”, they just have a different definition of legend to you.

I'm not arguing that the spice girls aren’t a ‘big’ act or weren't culturally significant, that just doesn’t automatically qualify them as a legend.

Your comments about toxicity are odd too, considering what you said about Kylie, are you saying people are toxic towards British pop acts, but not Australian ones?

Agreed. Kylie has cheese but also good songs. Spice Girls were a thing, but they're bloody awful. From someone who was 18 at the time and enjoyed that era...

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8 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

I don't know about 'stupid' - but it'd be a tap in - right act in the right slot that would draw an enormous crowd.

Right act is subjective though, which is my whole point. If the festival don’t book them they’re not stupid or toxic, they just have a different definition or idea of what a legend slot booking looks like. If the definition of legend is now - has some song along hits and will draw an enormous crowd, then that brings at least 50 previously unconsidered acts into the frame.

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23 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

As it happens the vast majority of previous legends do have a huge back catalogue of songs they’ve written though, easier to name the legends that don’t really isn’t it?

thats roxy tho, with loads of people having covered 'love is the drug'.

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2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

I agree they’ve not got as deep a bench of tunes as Kylie - but the big songs are bloody enormous.

has anyone ever covered a kylie song? does she even write her own stuff.

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