Future headliners

[WhoOdyssey]

23 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

What I’m trying to say is what happens when his next release is even bigger. With even bigger collabs and radio friendly songs. If this trend continues I can only see it going one way…

That's looking very true right now actually, his new collaboration with Skrillex & Flowdan is looking set to be his highest charting song to date next week.

[jannybruck]

Just now, Matt42 said:

@jannybruckmissed the last bit but I honestly wonder how ppl would react to Fred Again, Dua Lipa, Sam Fender as headliners. To me it would be Glasto taking a leaf out of Coachella’s book and going all in on what is big right now.

I also think all three would smash it.

But I don’t think attendees are quite there yet for Glasto to book no heritage headliners.

Perhaps in a few years time when many of those who would go religiously in the 90s, 00’s and early 10’s hang their wellies up.

I think there's going to have to be some level of course correction after 2023 by conciously booking "new blood" acts up top, because they're going to come in for a lot of criticism even if those were the only options available. I think Sam and Dua are an easy win out of the current batch if they balance it with something a bit more classic.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

@jannybruckmissed the last bit but I honestly wonder how ppl would react to Fred Again, Dua Lipa, Sam Fender as headliners. To me it would be Glasto taking a leaf out of Coachella’s book and going all in on what is big right now.

I also think all three would smash it.

But I don’t think attendees are quite there yet for Glasto to book no heritage headliners.

Perhaps in a few years time when many of those who would go religiously in the 90s, 00’s and early 10’s hang their wellies up.

Yeah but in a few years people will want/be nostalgic about acts that are on the come up now. It'll be the same process.

[chazwwe]

39 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Bicep don’t make tunes that people can sing along to. Fred does.

Sorry to be so pessimistic but it makes a massive difference in what crowd you can draw in. Think it played a big part in Disclosures and the Chemical Brothers successes. 

But I’d say Fred is more poppy than all of them, which really leans in his favour. 

Bicep will headline Other off their next album.

 

33 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

@jannybruckmissed the last bit but I honestly wonder how ppl would react to Fred Again, Dua Lipa, Sam Fender as headliners. To me it would be Glasto taking a leaf out of Coachella’s book and going all in on what is big right now.

Dua and Sam ( if his third does as well as his second) will headline off their next albums, maybe not at the same time but I can't see either not happening. You also have Dave, who will probably do it off his next. There's a lot of British artists that Glastonbury have the option of giving the push to. A trio of Dave/Dua Lipa/Taylor Swift wouldn't look out of place next year.

[Al2006]

Been saying this about Fred for a while - the Brixton show I went to was excellent, along with the hype and energy he is such a talented artist/producer and I actually do think he is tapping into something unique - sure there are similar sounding productions out there, but it is how he connects with the audience, the stories and the whole concept around 'actual life'. Who was it banging on about Megan Thee Stallion not selling out brixton being an unfair way to judge her popularity as it only went on sale for a month before hand? Tell that to the Fred fans selling venues out in 1 minute for gigs on the same night. Confident he could do Other in '23, but still imagine it might be West Holts.

 

Also, not wanting to say be too explicit about something that hasn't been posted publicly on here, but Fred is set to announce a set of gigs that will be much bigger than those Bicep ones on the other page.. 
 

not sure he will go mainstream / household name enough to ever do the headline the pyramid though

[MEGABOWL]

Probably all names that have been mentioned but I’d personally say

 

Dua Lipa, Sam Fender (if the third album is successful), Dave, The 1975 (though not sure they really count as a new act anymore), Olivia Rodrigo (not only big but her crowd on the Other last year was huge and the reaction ecstatic-judging by the TV footage anyway).

And as comparatively outside bets Fred Again, Central Cee, Doja Cat

 

 

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, chazwwe said:

Bicep will headline Other off their next album.

 

Dua and Sam ( if his third does as well as his second) will headline off their next albums, maybe not at the same time but I can't see either not happening. You also have Dave, who will probably do it off his next. There's a lot of British artists that Glastonbury have the option of giving the push to. A trio of Dave/Dua Lipa/Taylor Swift wouldn't look out of place next year.

That would be a nice counterbalance to this year. Make those disappointed by the legacy acts feel a bit better. If they can get Dua and Swift it’s time to grasp the ‘Good Lord! They’ve gone and booked two Bloody women now!’ nettle. Either Dave or Fender would sit nicely alongside them. Though it would be good for the LOLs if Olivia Rodrigo/Rihanna/Adele were available too.

[sisco]

Just watched Olivia Rodrigo’s set again.  Yeah she’ll be doing it.  Obviously Sam Fender too but guessing he doesn’t count as a leg up now he’s doing R&L etc…

[BenG92]

Genuinely believe BCNR would be on track for it before 2030 if Isaac didn't leave. Not so sure now. 

[Matt42]

2 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:

Probably all names that have been mentioned but I’d personally say

 

Dua Lipa, Sam Fender (if the third album is successful), Dave, The 1975 (though not sure they really count as a new act anymore), Olivia Rodrigo (not only big but her crowd on the Other last year was huge and the reaction ecstatic-judging by the TV footage anyway).

And as comparatively outside bets Fred Again, Central Cee, Doja Cat

 

 

Can’t see Central Cee but maybe that’s just me being clueless. Rest I agree with and I think the 1975 no longer fit this category as you and I discussed before. 

Sam and Dua aren’t far off from the 1975 category either. Hardly leg ups for both of them considering the shows they’ve been playing recently. I reckon they could be seen as just headline options that Glasto haven’t booked yet.

[Matt42]

Calling it now, Sam Fender will be the annual option that you can never rule out because he will tour every summer. A bit like the Killers, KOL, Muse, whatever. There won’t be a summer without him on the road.

[MEGABOWL]

10 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Can’t see Central Cee but maybe that’s just me being clueless. Rest I agree with and I think the 1975 no longer fit this category as you and I discussed before. 

Sam and Dua aren’t far off from the 1975 category either. Hardly leg ups for both of them considering the shows they’ve been playing recently. I reckon they could be seen as just headline options that Glasto haven’t booked yet.

Yeah fair point about Sam and Dua. He’s already doing Reading and TRNSMT and a stadium gig so he’s pretty much at that level. Dua has been headlining festivals and looking very comfortable. I watched her Rock in Rio set and to my eyes she just *looked* every bit a headliner if you know what I mean? Just completely comfortable with being there. So yeah I agree, they’re more ‘matter of time’ rather than a leg up

[CaledonianGonzo]

15 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Calling it now, Sam Fender will be the annual option that you can never rule out because he will tour every summer. A bit like the Killers, KOL, Muse, whatever. There won’t be a summer without him on the road.

Unless he's unwell

[Florian Saucer Attack]

2 hours ago, MEGABOWL said:

Probably all names that have been mentioned but I’d personally say

 

Dua Lipa, Sam Fender (if the third album is successful), Dave, The 1975 (though not sure they really count as a new act anymore), Olivia Rodrigo (not only big but her crowd on the Other last year was huge and the reaction ecstatic-judging by the TV footage anyway).

And as comparatively outside bets Fred Again, Central Cee, Doja Cat

 

 

Dave aside, that's quite a dull list. All very middle of the road

[Andre91]

The 1975. 

[PGTIps]

17 minutes ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Dave aside, that's quite a dull list. All very middle of the road

Whilst they may not be blockbuster bookings to the extent of Kendrick, Paul or Elton.

Dua, Fender and 1975 are great live acts that perform really well and I've seen all 3 in recent years and come away surprisingly impressed.

Plus you can guarantee all three will rise to the occasion. They also all seem to get the significance of a Glastonbury headline slot and will up their game accordingly. Just see Fender this year or how well 1975 stepped up for their reading slots for example 

[nikkic]

5 hours ago, Matt42 said:

I’d say Fred is absolutely everywhere right now in the same way. All the big artists trying to work with him. Selling out hype shows in Brixton in a flash. I’ve just not seen anything like this for a dance act in ages. I think you need to delve a bit more into his records and look and how popular he’s already become on a global scale.

Far from background music.

When they played a Fred again song at my work Christmas party (and I work with a bunch of oldies) I had a moment of realisation where I noticed exactly where this is going. If you were there you’d realise how mad that is.

What I’m trying to say is what happens when his next release is even bigger. With even bigger collabs and radio friendly songs. If this trend continues I can only see it going one way…

Old people can like dance music too, just FYI. 

[Florian Saucer Attack]

10 minutes ago, PGTIps said:

Whilst they may not be blockbuster bookings to the extent of Kendrick, Paul or Elton.

Dua, Fender and 1975 are great live acts that perform really well and I've seen all 3 in recent years and come away surprisingly impressed.

Plus you can guarantee all three will rise to the occasion. They also all seem to get the significance of a Glastonbury headline slot and will up their game accordingly. Just see Fender this year or how well 1975 stepped up for their reading slots for example 

I don't doubt the put on a good show for people who like them. I just don't find any of them exciting (although Dua has a few good songs and the 1975 has one). None of them are attempting to break new ground  

I hope I'm proven wrong one day but I'm not getting my hopes up

[FloorFiller]

Fred Again isn’t gonna headline. Seems destined to work his way up to the Other in a few years and then pop up there every couple of years henceforth, or it be a one and done after people move on to the next big thing. It might seem like he’s on an unstoppable path to the top right now with his quick rise and massive hype, but that can’t/won’t last, and soon enough he’ll put a foot wrong or take too long between albums or something and be like Disclosure before him and be yesterday’s news, or at best just a very big electronic act, but again, not one that’s gonna ever headline the Pyramid. 

[MEGABOWL]

1 hour ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Dave aside, that's quite a dull list. All very middle of the road

(Shrugs) It’s Pyramid headliners. It’s acts who can attract and entertain a crowd of 50,000+ It’s not necessarily a home for brave musical pioneers.

[a6l6e6x]

I think Fred could comfortably headline other now, against someone like gnr he’d draw a huge crowd. I think at this point having him on west holts has a potential to be a lot of overcrowding

be interested to see what his tour dates and venues are, I think he could comfortably do ally pally for 2 nights alongside similar sized venues across the uk

His shows are a seriously good time with great crowds and amazing vibes (besides the occasional overuse of filming on phones when he plays one of the big numbers) and the positivity in his music would go down a storm on a big stage at glasto

i was hoping he’d headline boomtown but feel like he’s already too big for it

[Matt42]

1 hour ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Unless he's unwell

Hasn’t stopped him putting the dates in the calendar.

 

1 hour ago, Andre91 said:

The 1975. 

We’ve already discussed and we don’t think they fit this category. They are already a headliner. Glastonbury just aren’t booking them. Nothing up and coming about them.

 

1 hour ago, FloorFiller said:

Fred Again isn’t gonna headline. Seems destined to work his way up to the Other in a few years and then pop up there every couple of years henceforth, or it be a one and done after people move on to the next big thing. It might seem like he’s on an unstoppable path to the top right now with his quick rise and massive hype, but that can’t/won’t last, and soon enough he’ll put a foot wrong or take too long between albums or something and be like Disclosure before him and be yesterday’s news, or at best just a very big electronic act, but again, not one that’s gonna ever headline the Pyramid. 

You ‘violently’ 😛 said Billie would never headline… so I see this as usual behaviour from you. They aren’t a future headliner if Floorfiller doesn’t completely shut it down..

[Matt42]

1 hour ago, nikkic said:

Old people can like dance music too, just FYI. 

Can you point me to where I said they couldn’t? Thanks

[Matt42]

1 hour ago, Florian Saucer Attack said:

Dave aside, that's quite a dull list. All very middle of the road

I see it the other way. Future headline pool looks more saturated than ever.

A few years ago it honestly felt like there were no new headliners… now there are too many imo. Not all will make it. It’s just a fact.

[FloorFiller]

Just now, Matt42 said:

You ‘violently’ 😛 said Billie would never headline… so I see this as usual behaviour from you. They aren’t a future headliner if Floorfiller doesn’t completely shut it down..

Ha well although I’m never gonna live that down, or The Killers the festival before that… Fred Again is a completely different deal what with him being an electronic act which they haven’t had headline since Chemical Brothers way back in 2000. The Other Stage is MADE for those kinds of sets so as big as he gets, I really do think that’s as far as he’ll go. WH this year, Other ‘25… do you really think he’s gonna maintain this hype he has now for another couple of years beyond that to get the big gig, or that the festival would really consider him? ‘Cause I don’t.