How old are we all here on Efests nowadays?

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

8 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I like to think I get on with young people and am down with the kids, but I don't, and I'm not.

I have been "hanging" with my 16 year old kid a lot recently as her mum is away, and at best we tolerate each other. She doesn't understand that everything was better in my day and I should always have the final word. And she keeps calling me priviledged white male for some reason. And pretentious. Little shit.

And got me thinking back to when I was that age and whether the late teen me would get on the early 50s me, and we really wouldn't. I would find the younger me a self centred, lazy, good for nothing prick, and I guess he would think of me as my daughter does, pretentious, full of shit. I reckon I could drink him under the table though, but he might win on the drugs side.

Anyway, enough about me.

Interesting, as well as amusing. It interests me because you mention your own child, as well as your old self. I don't have a child, so may be less 'exposed' to younger people in that way.  However, the young people that me and my wife know (there are a few) 'chose' us, as much as we 'chose' them. I now wonder if they would do so were we their parents? 

 

 

[irnkrtn]

Is there any greater joy than sneaking in at the top end of an age bracket??

I've been to a Glastonbury in 5 of those age brackets and next year will add a 6th. I remember at my very first one (15-17), meeting a guy in his 70s who had been going since the beginning and being blown away by him. I promised him I wouldn't just come to one and I'd keep it going! 😄

I do think the UK is far more age mixed in socialising. I particularly love the mix at Glastonbury, long may it continue! 

[irnkrtn]

12 hours ago, steviewevie said:

I like to think I get on with young people and am down with the kids, but I don't, and I'm not.

I have been "hanging" with my 16 year old kid a lot recently as her mum is away, and at best we tolerate each other. She doesn't understand that everything was better in my day and I should always have the final word. And she keeps calling me priviledged white male for some reason. And pretentious. Little shit.

And got me thinking back to when I was that age and whether the late teen me would get on the early 50s me, and we really wouldn't. I would find the younger me a self centred, lazy, good for nothing prick, and I guess he would think of me as my daughter does, pretentious, full of shit. I reckon I could drink him under the table though, but he might win on the drugs side.

Anyway, enough about me.

I can entirely imagine the music conversation you must have had with your daughter for her to call you pretentious but PLEASE tell us more!!!! 

Mind you, everything was better in your day...

Edited May 29, 2022 by irnkrtn

[clarkete]

On 5/28/2022 at 7:26 PM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

I'd like to think / believe that you are right in your assessment of ageism in the UK, but I actually know that there is a huge swathe of people to whom that does not apply. However, it wouldn't be of young people 'against' the old. It would be a case of an older generation against the young. In almost another universe I happen to visit the online version of the Daily mail site, which is where I have gleaned evidence of this prejudicial point of view. 

Sad on both fronts - that the prejudice exists (when it could be so much more beneficial to both parties if it didn't exist), and that I visit the Daily Mail website. 

 

Yes, I too stumble across those unwelcome opinions far too often and I think it's been exacerbated in the last few years since the brexit vote and as house prices have continued their inexorable rise keeping them out of reach of the younger generation...indeed regarding that last aspect - https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/08/privileged-kirstie-allsopp-is-wrong-home-ownership-isnt-everything-16071073/ 

Which has been satirised by the Daily Mash...
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/millennials-need-better-social-skills-says-pissed-baby-boomer-20180323146373

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/how-to-afford-a-house-a-guide-for-millennials-20210806210955

The piece of dirt named Kyle says far more offensive things and there's an audience who lap it up.
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1601618/Jeremy-Kyle-millennials-The-Talk-debate


 

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

9 hours ago, clarkete said:

Yes, I too stumble across those unwelcome opinions far too often and I think it's been exacerbated in the last few years since the brexit vote and as house prices have continued their inexorable rise keeping them out of reach of the younger generation.

 

Yes, I too have noticed the anger from the young on both of those points. Unfortunately those two items can be added to as well.

I couldn't watch the Jeremy Kyle video clip because the bloke is too loathsome to watch. A bellend of Biblical proportions.

[clarkete]

1 hour ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

Yes, I too have noticed the anger from the young on both of those points. Unfortunately those two items can be added to as well.

I couldn't watch the Jeremy Kyle video clip because the bloke is too loathsome to watch. A bellend of Biblical proportions.

Oh, I see it more from the old towards the young to be honest. Ill informed nonsense from Allsop (and tons of comments from their readers) that if youngsters stopped paying for 2 quid for a coffee they could afford a mortgage.   Also lecturing them that if they no longer like the UK due to (insert reason here) then they can leave - which of course is harder than ever for a number of reasons. 

I wish I felt we had a great cross generational warmth, but think we need to enjoy that at festivals and the like, as I sadly feel it's been a bit hampered 😔

 

[bamber]

The observable universe is about 13.5 billion light years if we look back to the big bang. We can measure stuff though that is seemingly up to about 90 billion years old, this is because space and time is expanding constantly. Beyond that we may never see anything, even though it is there. Eventually there are no gaps between the observable light sources - stars and galaxies and galaxy clusters. With enough time there is is only light from every direction.

[bamber]

On 5/30/2022 at 8:44 AM, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

Yes, I too have noticed the anger from the young on both of those points. Unfortunately those two items can be added to as well.

I couldn't watch the Jeremy Kyle video clip because the bloke is too loathsome to watch. A bellend of Biblical proportions.

Jeremy Kyle, a bell-end of Biblical proportions indeed, We are all ruled by such  people it seems. Many of us potential progressive, liberal, socialist leaders are tainted by our drug taking. The squares rule the roost. Not good. Michael Gove, the council house Conservative did/does drugs. Populist hypocrite C**ts all.

 

Edited June 2, 2022 by bamber

[bennyboi]

On 5/15/2022 at 8:46 AM, Deaf Nobby Burton said:

Another chuffed 40, it’s like being a millennial despite being born in the earliest possible year to be one.

So true, ‘87 and I don’t really feel like or want to be one. 

[rivalschools.price]

On 5/29/2022 at 7:01 AM, steviewevie said:

I like to think I get on with young people and am down with the kids, but I don't, and I'm not.

I have been "hanging" with my 16 year old kid a lot recently as her mum is away, and at best we tolerate each other. She doesn't understand that everything was better in my day and I should always have the final word. And she keeps calling me priviledged white male for some reason. And pretentious. Little shit.

And got me thinking back to when I was that age and whether the late teen me would get on the early 50s me, and we really wouldn't. I would find the younger me a self centred, lazy, good for nothing prick, and I guess he would think of me as my daughter does, pretentious, full of shit. I reckon I could drink him under the table though, but he might win on the drugs side.

Anyway, enough about me.

Yeah, sometimes people say things like ‘if you could go back in time, what advice would you give your 18 year old self?’

My answer is ‘none, because 18 year old me wouldn’t have listened’ haha.

[bamber]

3 hours ago, rivalschools.price said:

Yeah, sometimes people say things like ‘if you could go back in time, what advice would you give your 18 year old self?’

My answer is ‘none, because 18 year old me wouldn’t have listened’ haha.

My advice to my 18 year old self would have been to do one thing really well.

Preferably *Surfing or Skateboarding

Or playing a musical instrument

Or singing (not everyone has this option)

I chose this and this: *

* I am not as good as John John Florence

Edited June 2, 2022 by bamber

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

1 hour ago, bamber said:

My advice to my 18 year old self would have been to do one thing really well.

Preferably Surfing or Skateboarding

Or playing a musical instrument

Or singing (not everyone has this option)

I chose this and this: *

* I am not as good as John John Florence

I have never surfed, but realise that it must be quite a cosmic experience going through a tube of water.

I think my advice to my 18 year old self would be to spend less on hedonism and more on travelling the world. 

[bennyboi]

1 hour ago, bamber said:

My advice to my 18 year old self would have been to do one thing really well.

Preferably Surfing or Skateboarding

Or playing a musical instrument

Or singing (not everyone has this option)

I chose this and this: *

* I am not as good as John John Florence

That is good advice, my 18yo self would be proud/impressed at the way I shred mountain bikes. 
 

Having an active, creative hobby that you are constantly improving honestly makes life worth living. Regardless of what else is going on in life I take my bike to the woods and nothing else matters. 

[gigpusher]

On 5/30/2022 at 10:40 AM, clarkete said:

Oh, I see it more from the old towards the young to be honest. Ill informed nonsense from Allsop (and tons of comments from their readers) that if youngsters stopped paying for 2 quid for a coffee they could afford a mortgage.   Also lecturing them that if they no longer like the UK due to (insert reason here) then they can leave - which of course is harder than ever for a number of reasons. 

I wish I felt we had a great cross generational warmth, but think we need to enjoy that at festivals and the like, as I sadly feel it's been a bit hampered 😔

 

Yes I really think Brexit opened up a generational divide that might never heal. We know it’s not all old people but because it was overwhelmingly older people who voted for it and it mainly disadvantages younger people who are the ones who live to suffer the consequences of it. I have noticed it not only online but in person as well. Interestingly at the supermarket last week I was being served by a lady who I would definitely not describe as young (definitely older than me and I am mid 40’s) and she was complaining about how her absolute worst customers were older people. She said they had no respect and even less manners. It made me laugh because it’s what older people have always said about younger people. 
 

I bought my husband’s aunt a badge that said one of the 48% because she actually said because of all these old idiots we’re all getting a bad reputation! 

[Crazyfool01]

On 5/15/2022 at 11:00 PM, Miyn said:

I'm 17. I first went in 2019 with my dad and sister, so I was 14 and my sister was 11. My dad @Kim Wrong-Unwho's also on here, had been watching Glastonbury on TV for years and wanting to go once we were old enough to enjoy enough of the music. I remember watching some of 2017 on TV, specifically Radiohead and Ed Sheeran. I thought Radiohead were "crap dad music" and that Sheeran was really good. Which is a bit ironic now considering Radiohead are my favourite band of all time. So after 2017, my dad decided that 2019 was the first year we'd try for tickets as 2018 was a fallow, and we'd be two years older, and my sister and I were both getting into music more.

We luckily managed to get tickets in the October coach sale of 2018, which we were all ecstatic about. I think I heard about this forum through my dad, who'd seen it was a good place to get info before the line-up dropped. I remember seeing the rumours page, and thinking that it must be fake as there was no way anyone would be able to predict over half the line-up before the festival had said anything. After a bit more digging, I found that it was real, and that it was a culmination of what people had seen or heard on here as well as Neil getting info.

I lurked pretty much everyday on here from April to the festival, reading about rumours and line-up placements. The forum and Barbster360's videos did such a good job of getting me excited for the festival, that it was a genuine concern whether it would live up to the hopes and expectations. But it did, and I had the best weekend ever. Highlights included The Cure, The Killers and Foals. As well as the moment I realised it was the best place in the world. Which was during Hobo Jones's cover of One Way Of Life by The Levellers. They'd just thrown out hundreds of kazoos and beach balls out into the crowd, I managed to catch one of the kazoos and still have it on my desk. I realised there's nowhere else on earth that anyone is having an experience like this, and although I was laughing at the stupidity of it, it was actually really special. You can see a snippet of it in Barbster's video, where a familiar hat makes an appearance. 

We managed to get tickets for 2020 during the last few minutes of the main sale, so we've had our tickets for about two and a half years now. We're travelling down on the Tuesday, from Manchester to Bristol by train. Stopping most of the night in the Premier Inn next to the coach station and then getting a coach at 6am, which should get us in the queue before gates open at 8am, and we'll be trying for Big Ground this year. We went Wicket in 2019, but as we're coming on the Wednesday this year, we want somewhere a bit more central, and Big Ground seems to fit the bill. It's been a long couple of years waiting for Glastonbury, but it's just over a month to go, and I can't wait to be back at the farm in those beautiful fields.

Don’t know how I missed this … what a lovely post 

[JayBalls]

On 5/15/2022 at 11:00 PM, Miyn said:

I'm 17. I first went in 2019 with my dad and sister, so I was 14 and my sister was 11. My dad @Kim Wrong-Unwho's also on here, had been watching Glastonbury on TV for years and wanting to go once we were old enough to enjoy enough of the music. I remember watching some of 2017 on TV, specifically Radiohead and Ed Sheeran. I thought Radiohead were "crap dad music" and that Sheeran was really good. Which is a bit ironic now considering Radiohead are my favourite band of all time. So after 2017, my dad decided that 2019 was the first year we'd try for tickets as 2018 was a fallow, and we'd be two years older, and my sister and I were both getting into music more.

We luckily managed to get tickets in the October coach sale of 2018, which we were all ecstatic about. I think I heard about this forum through my dad, who'd seen it was a good place to get info before the line-up dropped. I remember seeing the rumours page, and thinking that it must be fake as there was no way anyone would be able to predict over half the line-up before the festival had said anything. After a bit more digging, I found that it was real, and that it was a culmination of what people had seen or heard on here as well as Neil getting info.

I lurked pretty much everyday on here from April to the festival, reading about rumours and line-up placements. The forum and Barbster360's videos did such a good job of getting me excited for the festival, that it was a genuine concern whether it would live up to the hopes and expectations. But it did, and I had the best weekend ever. Highlights included The Cure, The Killers and Foals. As well as the moment I realised it was the best place in the world. Which was during Hobo Jones's cover of One Way Of Life by The Levellers. They'd just thrown out hundreds of kazoos and beach balls out into the crowd, I managed to catch one of the kazoos and still have it on my desk. I realised there's nowhere else on earth that anyone is having an experience like this, and although I was laughing at the stupidity of it, it was actually really special. You can see a snippet of it in Barbster's video, where a familiar hat makes an appearance. 

We managed to get tickets for 2020 during the last few minutes of the main sale, so we've had our tickets for about two and a half years now. We're travelling down on the Tuesday, from Manchester to Bristol by train. Stopping most of the night in the Premier Inn next to the coach station and then getting a coach at 6am, which should get us in the queue before gates open at 8am, and we'll be trying for Big Ground this year. We went Wicket in 2019, but as we're coming on the Wednesday this year, we want somewhere a bit more central, and Big Ground seems to fit the bill. It's been a long couple of years waiting for Glastonbury, but it's just over a month to go, and I can't wait to be back at the farm in those beautiful fields.

This is great 👌

[Stevie P-alike]

I'm 68 (which is running at 4.75% at the moment).

My kids took me to my first one for my 60th birthday, which was perfect as it was the Stones year. Within 5 minutes of getting in on the Wednesday, I was walking to meet my lads when I was suddenly surrounded by 4 "youths" who started to take the piss  - admittedly I was carrying a kettle in one hand, so maybe it was that, but it definitely felt like it was an age thing. Nothing came of it as my eldest lad met me almost immediately and gave them some gentle banter back, but it was a bit intimidating for some reason.

This will be my 4th time and I'm just as excited as I was back in 2013. I've been totally obsessed about Glasto ever since, and only ever met lovely people, so no harm done.

[GlastoEls]

43 - first Glastonbury in 2000 at 21 and best part of ten after!

I am very much lucky my parents still go to the festival in their 70s!

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

On 6/5/2022 at 9:52 PM, Stevie P-alike said:

I'm 68 (which is running at 4.75% at the moment).

My kids took me to my first one for my 60th birthday, which was perfect as it was the Stones year. Within 5 minutes of getting in on the Wednesday, I was walking to meet my lads when I was suddenly surrounded by 4 "youths" who started to take the piss  - admittedly I was carrying a kettle in one hand, so maybe it was that, but it definitely felt like it was an age thing. Nothing came of it as my eldest lad met me almost immediately and gave them some gentle banter back, but it was a bit intimidating for some reason.

This will be my 4th time and I'm just as excited as I was back in 2013. I've been totally obsessed about Glasto ever since, and only ever met lovely people, so no harm done.

I'm glad to hear that you weren't put off attending by an isolated but unnecessary incident like that. Maybe you should carry one of these ray gun teapots instead when you enter the festival (see below). Then you could simply zap unruly 'youths'. 

 

[ThatCubT]

29 - never been to Glastonbury, this is my first year!

I've always watched it on TV but always been eager to go as there is more than just the music. Finally making it happen!

[alanr]

On 6/5/2022 at 9:52 PM, Stevie P-alike said:

I'm 68 (which is running at 4.75% at the moment).

My kids took me to my first one for my 60th birthday, which was perfect as it was the Stones year. Within 5 minutes of getting in on the Wednesday, I was walking to meet my lads when I was suddenly surrounded by 4 "youths" who started to take the piss  - admittedly I was carrying a kettle in one hand, so maybe it was that, but it definitely felt like it was an age thing. Nothing came of it as my eldest lad met me almost immediately and gave them some gentle banter back, but it was a bit intimidating for some reason.

This will be my 4th time and I'm just as excited as I was back in 2013. I've been totally obsessed about Glasto ever since, and only ever met lovely people, so no harm done.

Another 68 year old here.

My first festival was Weeley in 1971, I did not do another camping festival until 2007. That year I decided to get Glastonbury tickets, but missed. Instead I went to The Big Chill which was less than 10 miles from home. In 2008 I went to Womad, then back to The Big Chill in 2009 and 2010. In 2010 BC had been taken over by Live Nation and the experience was very different. 

I managed to get tickets for Glastonbury 2011 and have been to every one since, so this year will be my 8th at the farm. In the fallow years I have returned to Womad. I can only do 1 festival a year and until covid did a festival every year from 2007-2019.

I don't intend to stop, but am conscious that my knees are less able to stand the battering of 5 days at Glastonbury. In 2019 I averaged about 35000 steps per day. 

[clarkete]

1 hour ago, alanr said:

Another 68 year old here.

My first festival was Weeley in 1971, I did not do another camping festival until 2007. That year I decided to get Glastonbury tickets, but missed. Instead I went to The Big Chill which was less than 10 miles from home. In 2008 I went to Womad, then back to The Big Chill in 2009 and 2010. In 2010 BC had been taken over by Live Nation and the experience was very different. 

I managed to get tickets for Glastonbury 2011 and have been to every one since, so this year will be my 8th at the farm. In the fallow years I have returned to Womad. I can only do 1 festival a year and until covid did a festival every year from 2007-2019.

I don't intend to stop, but am conscious that my knees are less able to stand the battering of 5 days at Glastonbury. In 2019 I averaged about 35000 steps per day. 

That does sound like a lot of steps for a poor old knee 😊

Mine are in my 50s but only need to go as far as my sobriety demands

[philipsteak]

5 hours ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

I'm glad to hear that you weren't put off attending by an isolated but unnecessary incident like that. Maybe you should carry one of these ray gun teapots instead when you enter the festival (see below). Then you could simply zap unruly 'youths'. 

 

Well I want one of those now, obviously

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

15 hours ago, philipsteak said:

Well I want one of those now, obviously

I know that you are only kidding, and that possibly the 'obviously' part would stem from the lower section of the tea pot rather than the upper - however, i am not sure that I am sure on this element

Anyway, for a self challenge I decided to try to find out how much one would set you back. I couldn't get a price. I did find out that it's an 'OUTER SPACE RAY GUN TEAPOT' made by Silvestri, and also made in Taiwan.

[One Tonne Baby]

35. First festival was in 2010 when i was a mere 23. Seems like yday but also a lifetime ago.