✨Drag✨

[Twiggy553]

15 minutes ago, ErnestWorthing said:

when’s the white male gonna catch a break eh?

Oh you’re trolling

 

[balti-pie]

there's almost half an idea worth thinking about in terms of likening drag to blackface - i instantly dismissed it as nonsense, and then looked again at my thought process as to why its immediately nonsense: why impersonating one protected characteristic on one hand is fine, and empowering, and good - and why another impersonated protected characteristic is demeaning, racist and bad. Whats the difference? (well, there's bloody loads of difference)

still though, i had a cursory glance through the paper linked above and it is needlessly intellectualised bollocks. It reads a bit like a spoof paper written by someone impersonating a naive student leftist point of view, like that dill who does Titania McGrath on twitter/stand up.   

back on topic - there was a load of drag in SHITV and a couple of previous incarnations of shangri-la. i seem to recall one of those phone booth/handset/live screen type things a few years back, but i was fairly inebriated and dont recall much other than that really. I wouldnt mind bumping into some of Ru's queens at the festival, i think itd be a right good laugh!

[Twiggy553]

6 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

there's almost half an idea worth thinking about in terms of likening drag to blackface - i instantly dismissed it as nonsense, and then looked again at my thought process as to why its immediately nonsense: why impersonating one protected characteristic on one hand is fine, and empowering, and good - and why another impersonated protected characteristic is demeaning, racist and bad. Whats the difference? (well, there's bloody loads of difference)

still though, i had a cursory glance through the paper linked above and it is needlessly intellectualised bollocks. It reads a bit like a spoof paper written by someone impersonating a naive student leftist point of view, like that dill who does Titania McGrath on twitter/stand up.   

back on topic - there was a load of drag in SHITV and a couple of previous incarnations of shangri-la. i seem to recall one of those phone booth/handset/live screen type things a few years back, but i was fairly inebriated and dont recall much other than that really. I wouldnt mind bumping into some of Ru's queens at the festival, i think itd be a right good laugh!

Oh no, It’s definitely not nonsense to explore whether it could potentially be demeaning to women.

But to liken it to blackface is entirely disproportionate. 

[Simsy]

25 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

there's almost half an idea worth thinking about in terms of likening drag to blackface - i instantly dismissed it as nonsense, and then looked again at my thought process as to why its immediately nonsense: why impersonating one protected characteristic on one hand is fine, and empowering, and good - and why another impersonated protected characteristic is demeaning, racist and bad. Whats the difference? (well, there's bloody loads of difference)

still though, i had a cursory glance through the paper linked above and it is needlessly intellectualised bollocks. It reads a bit like a spoof paper written by someone impersonating a naive student leftist point of view, like that dill who does Titania McGrath on twitter/stand up.   

back on topic - there was a load of drag in SHITV and a couple of previous incarnations of shangri-la. i seem to recall one of those phone booth/handset/live screen type things a few years back, but i was fairly inebriated and dont recall much other than that really. I wouldnt mind bumping into some of Ru's queens at the festival, i think itd be a right good laugh!

Haven't read the link, but imo there's a difference between RuPaul-style drag and Mrs Brown's Boys "drag". I've always found it a bit off when you get comedians dressing as women rather than getting women into their act (eg Little Britain, Monty Python), but either way it's not really comparable to blackface.

[giantkatestacks]

1 hour ago, Twiggy553 said:

Oh no, It’s definitely not nonsense to explore whether it could potentially be demeaning to women.

But to liken it to blackface is entirely disproportionate. 

Agree on both counts. There can be a challenging side to drag culture where women are all fishy and some of the chosen names are offensive (ones about abortion etc) but that comparison to blackface doesnt hold up. 

[Festival Liam]

Briefs at the Twist Circus used to have drag incorporated into their (amazing) show, we always used to try and catch them. I think they are booked in some form this year, so check them out if you want a show.