Primavera Sound Barcelona 2023 + Primavera Sound Madrid 2023

[BenG92]

16 minutes ago, Drums Please Fab said:

Ok I’m definitely past it. I have never ever heard of Fred again . 
 

I need to get my act together.

Exploded during the summer so you're not that past it. Watch his boiler room set on youtube if you're curious. 

[Drums Please Fab]

2 minutes ago, BenG92 said:

Exploded during the summer so you're not that past it. Watch his boiler room set on youtube if you're curious. 

 

Had googled it before you posted. When someone makes a bombastic claim like biggest dance act in the world and I've never heard of it I had to see what it was all about. 

 

Will give it a listen.

[UsernameHere]

6 minutes ago, davidoffescassi said:

Bicep was terrible and I think Darkside are similar, that's why I am thinking that

I would've thought Bicep are a lot bigger than Darkside. That could just be here in Ireland though? 

I'd probably be more worried about Four Tet if he's at Cupra. All depends on clashes though!

[BenG92]

5 minutes ago, Drums Please Fab said:

Had googled it before you posted. When someone makes a bombastic claim like biggest dance act in the world and I've never heard of it I had to see what it was all about. 

Will give it a listen.

I think he's excellent, but I'm not a massive dance fan usually and I think that's the crowd he's managed to attract somehow, in the same way Bicep did before. I also think people are gonna get sick of hearing the name but that's the same for anyone who blows up overnight (hello Wet Leg)

[Fabrizzo]

1 hour ago, Gnarler said:

That thursday is absolutely stacked. If it wasn't for the intense heat and awful journey back to the city from the festival I'd feel jealous.

Lizzo and Sigur Ros, the rest Is meh IMO

[Enkidu]

I'm really hoping they remove that bullshit with the bridge to BITS being for VIPs only.

Checking out some Charlotte de Witte sets on youtube... think she's become a must see.

[ConfidenceMan]

7 hours ago, Enkidu said:

I'm really hoping they remove that bullshit with the bridge to BITS being for VIPs only.

This was a total pain in the ass. From my recollection, though, wasn't it part of the planning arrangement with the local council? Someone else in here may have a better memory than me in this case, but I remember the whole BITS area, bridge included, all being the subject of a messy planning dispute based on crowd size, timing and access.

The whole site actually spans two administrative areas so they've to deal with the BCN and (I think) Sant Adria councils on different aspects of it. 

For all of the shit they got wrong last time out, this one may be beyond their control. 

[Whos3000_]

I knew and liked blur mainly because of their self-titled album but I am afraid their live shows are not going to sound like that, are they? From the setlist it looks like they will mainly play their easier stuff

[BenjoDiMeo]

28 minutes ago, Whos3000_ said:

I knew and liked blur mainly because of their self-titled album but I am afraid their live shows are not going to sound like that, are they? From the setlist it looks like they will mainly play their easier stuff

For what's it's worth, their 2013 Primavera headliner set was legendary. Boys and Girls opener ffs

[ConfidenceMan]

52 minutes ago, BenjoDiMeo said:

For what's it's worth, their 2013 Primavera headliner set was legendary. Boys and Girls opener ffs

They were excellent on that tour. I saw them twice in the UK. Both absolutely great shows and I wouldn't count myself as a particularly big fan generally. 

[Drums Please Fab]

2 hours ago, ConfidenceMan said:

They were excellent on that tour. I saw them twice in the UK. Both absolutely great shows and I wouldn't count myself as a particularly big fan generally. 

Seen them in Dublin around that time. Boys and Girls opener. Pints everywhere in the sky.

[DDave]

22 hours ago, Drums Please Fab said:

 

Had googled it before you posted. When someone makes a bombastic claim like biggest dance act in the world and I've never heard of it I had to see what it was all about. 

 

Will give it a listen.

'Baxter (These are my friends)' is the best dance tune in the last 5 years for me. 

[Enkidu]

5 hours ago, ConfidenceMan said:

This was a total pain in the ass. From my recollection, though, wasn't it part of the planning arrangement with the local council? Someone else in here may have a better memory than me in this case, but I remember the whole BITS area, bridge included, all being the subject of a messy planning dispute based on crowd size, timing and access.

The whole site actually spans two administrative areas so they've to deal with the BCN and (I think) Sant Adria councils on different aspects of it. 

For all of the shit they got wrong last time out, this one may be beyond their control. 

But theyve had the BITS area and the bridge open to standard ticket holders before, so dont see why the council would make them change it. I thought it was just primavera being greedy bastards again.

 

[Martin_89]

2 minutes ago, Enkidu said:

But theyve had the BITS area and the bridge open to standard ticket holders before, so dont see why the council would make them change it. I thought it was just primavera being greedy bastards again.

 

They got a max limit for people on the bridge by the local council. So that's the reason for only VIP this year. Really hope this changes for next year!

[Enkidu]

2 minutes ago, Martin_89 said:

They got a max limit for people on the bridge by the local council. So that's the reason for only VIP this year. Really hope this changes for next year!

Ah, I see. I remember this year trying to leave the bits area one night but there was only one gate and were too many people trying to leave and too many trying to enter, so security was having to shoo away crowds of people so that each group could take turns  entering/exiting. Incredibly poor organisation.

[Enkidu]

On a more positive note: these two look incredibly fun!

 

[ConfidenceMan]

1 hour ago, Drums Please Fab said:

Seen them in Dublin around that time. Boys and Girls opener. Pints everywhere in the sky.

Ah sure that's just standard Dublin. 😜

[Etaish]

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/best-albums-2022/?bxid=5d7fe7553f92a41101226488&cndid=&esrc=&hasha=9c152fd915ca7e7a5336d4ecaba7b6da&hashb=3496faca970b0da4009aa0aa28cda69da18acce9&hashc=50feca25b262f4c327dc5c1ff3803e7bc572e8ffb488c524c2807840b30f5bb9&utm_brand=p4k&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_mailing=P4K_HotLinks_120622&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl&utm_term=P4K_HotLinks_NewMusic

Nice representation of PS23 artists on this list. 

[FKA SOSOTWS]

Fred Again already played Cupra this year, so he'll definitely be main stage.

Given that Disclosure was Cupra this year as well, I also think Skrillex will close there since both acts aren't what they used to be.

[DDave]

Primavera 2022 clone in Utah 

[Quadrophobia]

While I personally prefer the PS Line up, there is just no arguing, that Mad Cool is the better deal. Its pretty stacked in the headline with a good mix of contmporary and legacy acts, has a solid undercard, runs for 4-full days and costs 140€ less than PS. 

Whatever you prefer, this type of competition is really bad for either festival and I'm honestly concerned this will burn out one of them (or at least the Madrid edition). I just dont see the benefit of throwing bigger and bigger names onto line ups. Both PS and Mad Cool are senselessly overblown.

 

Also Machine Gun Jelly is a booking I haven't seen before

 

https://madcoolfestival.es/artista/machine-gun-jelly

Edited December 6, 2022 by Quadrophobia

[neacaisa]

mad cool is only 3 days next year 

Edited December 6, 2022 by neacaisa

[xxialac]

39 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said:

While I personally prefer the PS Line up, there is just no arguing, that Mad Cool is the better deal. Its pretty stacked in the headline with a good mix of contmporary and legacy acts, has a solid undercard, runs for 4-full days and costs 140€ less than PS. 

Whatever you prefer, this type of competition is really bad for either festival and I'm honestly concerned this will burn out one of them (or at least the Madrid edition). I just dont see the benefit of throwing bigger and bigger names onto line ups. Both PS and Mad Cool are senselessly overblown.

 

Also Machine Gun Jelly is a booking I haven't seen before

 

https://madcoolfestival.es/artista/machine-gun-jelly

It's not a better deal if you don't like the artists attending Mad Cool. Value is entirely subjective...

And ironic that a feature highlighted as a plus for Mad Cool is actually an argument in favour for Primavera (4 days at the Forum (not 3) + 60 Ciutat gigs too).

[Enkidu]

49 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said:

has a solid undercard

lol

[neacaisa]

personally i never understood the debate of mad cool vs primavera. besides the fact that they are both in spain i don't see that much overlap in target audience. for me, mad cool is more of a competition for rock werchter from the european festivals . if i were to pick a more similar festival inside spain, i would certainly pick bilbao bbk as the (sort of) competition.