The Weather Thread 2023

[Crazyfool01]

Just now, Rufus Gwertigan said:

As the saying goes

Red sky at night a farmers delight

Red sky in morning his fields are on fire

 

 

 

Fortunately things around here are starting to get a green colour back in them 

[Reckoner]

3 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Dunno how much of this is genuine chaos vs a journo not really used to dealing with queues and mud.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jul/25/splendour-in-the-grass-2022-bus-chaos-noxious-mud-and-public-urination-at-an-unbelievably-awful-time

 

The article has certainly been written in a way to maximise the catastrophe, but there is plenty of blame for the organizers. 
 

You can’t do much about the weather, it’s been raining for months. The northern rivers region is only a couple of hundred ml away from breaking the all time record for rain with half the year and the rainiest months still to go. I do think that the acceptance and attitude to muddy festivals in Oz plays a part for sure though. 
 

Cars getting bogged at entry was always a possibility, especially with police stopping people in mud to check the cars for drugs, but there didn’t seem to be much infrastructure to help alleviate it either such as metal tracking, roadbase being layed down etc. you also have a the car park/camping combined (like coachella I think) that had people driving over other plots to get to theirs

churning the field up for those behind them. There certainly seems to have been a big issue in regards to organization, communication and the inexperience of staff after 3 years of no festival, similar scenarios to what we discussed after GFL this year. 
 

The buses and wait times were pretty inexcusable. People waiting 4plus hours just to get back to their campsite or accommodation in the surrounding towns.  Camping was set up at both the festival site (north Byron parklands) and and secondary site at Byron events farm. NBP got the worst of the flooding and entry problems meaning they closed that site and directed everyone up the road  to BEF. Buses, including a extra daily ticket price were set up to ferry people between the 2 sites. It’s arguable whether they had the right amount to deal with the initial capacity anyway but by moving more people into the BEF, they added numbers well in excess of what they could actually transport. 
 

Another problem is that they added 10k extra tickets this year, the largest ever and the site had just not had that many people through it adding then on top of the logistical issues weather brings and the staffing problems (numbers due to covid drop outs, general labour shortages and in experience) 

Finally, all of this is occurring at a festival that has been bought into by Livenation and has slowly seen its ethos whittled away by extra charges, VIP bars and areas, being forced to camp at a seperate area and then being made to pay for daily car parking for a 3 day festival and bus tickets to actually get you on site and a local police force that has taken an adversarial position to the festival in regards to liquor licensing and enforcement. 
 

All in all, it’s been a debacle started off by bad luck but compounded by bad organization. 

[stuartbert two hats]

On 7/22/2022 at 5:53 PM, Alvoram said:

Keep your eyes on the early August GFS… 40 appeared again!!!! 

Hopefully just a bias caused by the current climate, but either way, potentially more horrendously hot weather on it’s way! 
 

How's it looking now? Can you remind me of the link to explore all these models+charts directly? 

[Alvoram]

20 minutes ago, stuartbert two hats said:

How's it looking now? Can you remind me of the link to explore all these models+charts directly? 

It's looking reassuringly average now. 🙂 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50206&model=gfs&var=5&run=6&lid=ENS&bw=1 For the Ensembles 

https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/gfs For the GFS

[Alvoram]

Heads up, GFS is again consistently throwing 30+ temps out for dates between the 8th and 15th... Even throwing a couple of 40+ runs out recently around the 12th - 14th... 

Pinch of salt obviously, but worth keeping an eye out and preparing for those who struggled last time. 

[Crazyfool01]

On 8/3/2022 at 12:03 AM, Alvoram said:

Heads up, GFS is again consistently throwing 30+ temps out for dates between the 8th and 15th... Even throwing a couple of 40+ runs out recently around the 12th - 14th... 

Pinch of salt obviously, but worth keeping an eye out and preparing for those who struggled last time. 

getting warm end of next week looking very possible 

[Sawdusty surfer]

[deebeedoobee]

8 hours ago, Sawdusty surfer said:

Perfect 🤩 

[Sawdusty surfer]

1 hour ago, deebeedoobee said:

Perfect 🤩 

Yep, with you there 😄

I suspect that it may be a little much for some though. 

[pilton digger]

1 hour ago, Sawdusty surfer said:

Yep, with you there 😄

I suspect that it may be a little much for some though. 

Where will you be at Boomtown this year? 

[Sawdusty surfer]

2 minutes ago, pilton digger said:

Where will you be at Boomtown this year? 

Not entirely sure, but woody stuff will be in one of the camping villages I think. 

[pilton digger]

23 minutes ago, Sawdusty surfer said:

Not entirely sure, but woody stuff will be in one of the camping villages I think. 

We will keep an eye out for you and say hello.

[Alvoram]

So it's starting to look like a real possibility that some parts of the south will see 4 days in a row of 35c plus from the 11th... With some places at times seeing up to 38c on the latest gfs run!

Most of England up to the North of the midlands is looking like seeing 30+ temps for several days in a row again!!!

Our walk in fridge and freezer at the pub is only rated to operate up to 30 something (think it's 35 but could be wrong,) it went down last time, I really hope it doesn't this time 😞 

[Crazyfool01]

Gonna be a bit warm for the animals once again 

[Ayrshire Chris]

54 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

Gonna be a bit warm for the animals once again 

To quote an old phrase, that  clever dog knows it’s onions. 

[Suprefan]

Anyone wanna go to a gig outside today? 🫠

[Alvoram]

On 8/6/2022 at 10:23 AM, Sawdusty surfer said:

Yep, with you there 😄

I suspect that it may be a little much for some though. 

Depends how well they plan for it… It could be incredible with lots of shade, water and other mitigation, or it could genuinely be very very dangerous. 

I suspect either way, where drink, drugs, sun and high temps are involved, medical will be very busy with heat stroke cases. 

[Alvoram]

Highest level heat and fire warnings officially issued for all of England now. 😕 

Here we go again 😢 Wonder if the walk in freezer will survive this time, and if not how much food / money we’ll be throwing in the bin. 

[Punksnotdead]

6 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

Highest level heat and fire warnings officially issued for all of England now. 😕 

Here we go again 😢 Wonder if the walk in freezer will survive this time, and if not how much food / money we’ll be throwing in the bin. 

Amber warning this time, rather than red - it's still going to be horrendous though!

[Alvoram]

5 minutes ago, Punksnotdead said:

Amber warning this time, rather than red - it's still going to be horrendous though!

Sorry should have been clearer, it’s the fire warning that is the top level… The most worrying one 😞 

Edited August 9, 2022 by Alvoram

[Crazyfool01]

im amazed we don't have a ban on disposable bbqs nationwide by now tbh ... also why do they wait before the introduction of hosepipe bans ? 

[DeanoL]

Was meant to be seeing Daniel Kitson in Birmingham outside during the last heatwave. It got postponed due to temperature and move to this week. Should be interesting!

[DeanoL]

4 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

im amazed we don't have a ban on disposable bbqs nationwide by now tbh ... also why do they wait before the introduction of hosepipe bans ? 

Because they're not really concerned about the levels of water usage at this point. They're hedging a bit but we should be fine.

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Because they're not really concerned about the levels of water usage at this point. They're hedging a bit but we should be fine.

some areas they announced that they will introduce them from X date ... so they knew it was an issue at that point . hopefully they can see a bit further out . and it does seem like next week we might get some rain 

[Alvoram]

6 minutes ago, crazyfool1 said:

some areas they announced that they will introduce them from X date ... so they knew it was an issue at that point . hopefully they can see a bit further out . and it does seem like next week we might get some rain 

Think everybody should probably be watering lawns at the minute, not letting them dry out 😕