dulcificum Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 As OP I've been coming 17 years and have never seen anything like the Arcadia crush from last night. Lots of big crowds especially some of the secret sets on smaller stages like Radiohead but nothing on that scale of scariness or stupidity. Worst before was on train tracks when they fenced off SE Corner and before they had a one way and that was only bad because three out of four sides had fences. This was bad even with overspill into the camping to the north east of the junction. Definitely feels busier than usual but so much must be incompetent mismanagement as Arcadia was not crazy inside and often lots of space still at the front of many acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august1 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, DJL said: Off the top of my head I’ve heard people complaining about similar over-crowding at Bearded and Primavera. Could it be a combination of extra ticket sales to address rising costs, people sneaking in as desperate after years off and we are not as used to being in crowds as we used to? Lots of experienced people left the industry during covid. A mate of mine who does all the summer fests across Europe said he wouldn't be surprised if there was serious incident this year (not Glasto) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbailey80 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, danbailey80 said: Edited June 25, 2022 by danbailey80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulcificum Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 So fwiw in case anyone organising sees this, while I know the economics aren't that straightforward, I think most punters would pay 15% more on tickets rather than 10% capacity increase. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennoel Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 I hate to pile on, this is my 8th time in 20 years but it’s been a bit of a mess. Never seen overcrowding like this. Everywhere is absolutely packed. Thank god there’s not 2007/2016 mud. Would be unbearable. Also, no Wi-Fi at the bars. Absolute shit show. Amateur hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan84 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Radiochicken said: For balance, 8th Glasto and doesn’t feel any different to me at all. Popular acts will always be busy, plan your time accordingly. Yep me too it's always seems busier when it is a dry year. Move off main paths and quieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Reckoner said: What are the crowds in the SE corner like? Has the balance maybe shifted too much towards the other areas? I know haven’t managed to make it where as often I’d have been a couple times by now. I'd also like to know this, haven't heard much about it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis22 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lennoel said: I hate to pile on, this is my 8th time in 20 years but it’s been a bit of a mess. Never seen overcrowding like this. Everywhere is absolutely packed. Thank god there’s not 2007/2016 mud. Would be unbearable. Also, no Wi-Fi at the bars. Absolute shit show. Amateur hour. Yeah 😂 what an absolute racket that is. Been able to pay for years on cars, all of sudden first year. No internet anymore, sorry has to be cash. Absolute bollocks Only the main bars aswell, food vendors or smaller stalls. Seemingly don't have a problems. Hmmmm Edited June 25, 2022 by Dennis22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJL Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, august1 said: Lots of experienced people left the industry during covid. A mate of mine who does all the summer fests across Europe said he wouldn't be surprised if there was serious incident this year (not Glasto) Yeah, good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greased-Up Deaf Guy Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Genuinely feared for mine and the 2 girls I was with safety leaving West holts after Sleaford Mods. There's definitely too many people compared to '19. Thursday night was a joke. Arcadia was a joke as well last night and the attitude/ mentality of people pushing through with no care whatsoever is disgusting. Fatboy slim on Sonic? Really? Dangerous crushes. Horrible scum bags everywhere walking round with balloons thinking they can do what they want. Are there less water points as well? Something different about it this year. Sorry for the rant and i know its never going to be perfect but the organisers have got a lot wrong here Edited June 25, 2022 by Greased-Up Deaf Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility of Solitude Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, Lennoel said: no Wi-Fi at the bars. Absolute shit show. Amateur hour. Yep WiFi intermittent at bars and I know it's really frustrating but please remember the staff are just volunteers. Be kind people. ( Not a go at you @Lennoel but it's horrible working behind a rammed bar when the WiFi drops out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concerned Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Echo other comments, something doesnt feel right. Queues for the toilets are insane in most area even in pylon at times. Camped in the same spot in 2019 and they've definitely reduced the size of the toilets for that field. There were urinals as well which have been removed, certainly not going to help with people pissing on the land. There is a testing site right there on the river so I imagine the festival will get a bollocking once the test results come in. Got caught in the shambles at Arcadia last night as well, people smashed through the hedgerow to gain access because the crowd was insane on the road up to the park. A group of Scottish lads pretending to be security barging through making things worse, although it did make me laugh they pushed up to one of the Arcadia crew bars and flashed a wrist band to be promptly told to fuck off. Even old dirty brasstards at Williams green on Thursday was insane, pulling in big act John peel stage sized crowds, absolutely no where near getting inside the tent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantkatestacks Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 I think some of it is new punters with a different attitude as well. There is less Glastonbury crowd etiquette for example which I think organisers have relied on in the past. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, Zoo Music Girl said: I'd also like to know this, haven't heard much about it at all. No queue to enter the area about 1-2am Friday but queues within places and for Shangri-la Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLurker Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Acoustic was too rammed to even contemplate Paul & Jackie so walked via Other past St Vincent, very small crowd, onto Sonic for Fatboy which was busy as expected, bit of a pichpoint at the back but stewards did fine moving people through, found a spot to left of tent for a couple of tracks dance/hobble with fucked knee. So yeah, getting stuck in a crowd/pinchpoint can range from uncomfortable to super scary but it can be avoided if you're willing to give up seeing an act you really want to see - for me my own comfort is always more important than seeing an act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_coholic Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 It's the balance of the acts across the stages that is wrong. St. Vincent playing to an empty other field. Wet Leg and TLC rammed. They are booking acts as an individual stage and not as a collective. Will be interesting to see what happens tonight with the O-Rod crowd against NGHFB and then later with anything up against Macca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majormajormajor Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Time to call a spade a spade and make the Pyramid the Radio 1 stage. It isn't difficult to figure out what appeals to the masses and what is better suited in a smaller area. Why bother with something like Robert Plant in that field in the early evening? He would have packed out the Park nicely, on the Pyramid it looked more like Trump's inaugration. It's a waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a6l6e6x Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 It is insanely busy this year. Very oversold. Feels like there's 30k too many here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Music Girl Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Leyrulion said: No queue to enter the area about 1-2am Friday but queues within places and for Shangri-la Thanks! So about normal really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2SO Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, FrancisH said: Also a bit sick of the exclusivity bullshit with special wristbands for access. Feels a bit like a class system within a festival. I agree massively on this. Was driving me mad in 2019 as well. A bunch of people with T+C or Silver Hayes passes just sit around the front of the Pyramid in chairs. They don't care what's on the stage, they just want to be at the front, and some will sit there for a few hours until it's the time to start their shift, then they leave and swap their place with another person from their area. When they showed the audience from the barrier on the screen during Billie last night, the majority of them looked like they were waiting for another act to come on afterwards with their emotionless expressions 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex DeLarge Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Might be a bit of a long rambling one. I'm volunteering at ped gate D this year, if you're there between 6am-12 come say hi to this tall dopey brummie. The crowds haven't impacted how lovely the punters have been to me this year, only one person was rude and I met Dom Joly who was lovely. Thank you to everyone making us staff feel safe and nice. That being said, this year is a real struggle for me. I'm feeling anxious, scared, depressed - everything I wouldn't usually feel at glastonbury. My friends are being really weird and seem to not care I'm here. I could barely leave the tent today I was that low. I thought I could do what I usually do and hit block 9 by myself and make friends, but everyone is aggro, annoyed, hates eacjother. Its a really bad vibe generally and I've taken a bit of a dip. It's really overwhelming and I feel really bad. I don't remember it being like this. Anyone else struggling? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblestripe Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said: My friends are being really weird and seem to not care I'm here. I could barely leave the tent today I was that low. I thought I could do what I usually do and hit block 9 by myself and make friends, but everyone is aggro, annoyed, hates eacjother. Its a really bad vibe generally and I've taken a bit of a dip. It's really overwhelming and I feel really bad. I don't remember it being like this. Anyone else struggling? Hi Alex sorry to read that you are struggling get yourself to the medical tent and have a chat with someone. It probably isn't your friends being weird it is your "black dog" lying to you, they probably haven't noticed that you are struggling. It is easy to miss the signs even in someone you are very familiar with. Talk to them they will help you. Most importantly take care of yourself allow yourself not to feel 100% it happens to all of us sometimes especially when we are telling ourselves we "SHOULD" be having the time of our lives. Mental health is important. You are important. Love and peace. Sorry I'm sat at home and can't head over to Ped Gate D to give you a hug but consider yourself hugged. For those struggling with overcrowding, take your time, don't be an arsehole, look out for others around you, check your maps and avoid crush points - there are multiple ways to get to most of the stages if you take your time and choose a less direct route. Be beautiful everyone. 2 2 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelts Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rumblestripe said: Hi Alex sorry to read that you are struggling get yourself to the medical tent and have a chat with someone. It probably isn't your friends being weird it is your "black dog" lying to you, they probably haven't noticed that you are struggling. It is easy to miss the signs even in someone you are very familiar with. Talk to them they will help you. Most importantly take care of yourself allow yourself not to feel 100% it happens to all of us sometimes especially when we are telling ourselves we "SHOULD" be having the time of our lives. Mental health is important. You are important. Love and peace. Sorry I'm sat at home and can't head over to Ped Gate D to give you a hug but consider yourself hugged. For those struggling with overcrowding, take your time, don't be an arsehole, look out for others around you, check your maps and avoid crush points - there are multiple ways to get to most of the stages if you take your time and choose a less direct route. Be beautiful everyone. Goddamit I’m out of upvotes but this deserves one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbadger Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said: Might be a bit of a long rambling one. I'm volunteering at ped gate D this year, if you're there between 6am-12 come say hi to this tall dopey brummie. The crowds haven't impacted how lovely the punters have been to me this year, only one person was rude and I met Dom Joly who was lovely. Thank you to everyone making us staff feel safe and nice. That being said, this year is a real struggle for me. I'm feeling anxious, scared, depressed - everything I wouldn't usually feel at glastonbury. My friends are being really weird and seem to not care I'm here. I could barely leave the tent today I was that low. I thought I could do what I usually do and hit block 9 by myself and make friends, but everyone is aggro, annoyed, hates eacjother. Its a really bad vibe generally and I've taken a bit of a dip. It's really overwhelming and I feel really bad. I don't remember it being like this. Anyone else struggling? Happy to meet for a pint if you want a friendly face to chat to for a bit. Drop us a DM if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movingfurtheraway Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said: Might be a bit of a long rambling one. I'm volunteering at ped gate D this year, if you're there between 6am-12 come say hi to this tall dopey brummie. The crowds haven't impacted how lovely the punters have been to me this year, only one person was rude and I met Dom Joly who was lovely. Thank you to everyone making us staff feel safe and nice. That being said, this year is a real struggle for me. I'm feeling anxious, scared, depressed - everything I wouldn't usually feel at glastonbury. My friends are being really weird and seem to not care I'm here. I could barely leave the tent today I was that low. I thought I could do what I usually do and hit block 9 by myself and make friends, but everyone is aggro, annoyed, hates eacjother. Its a really bad vibe generally and I've taken a bit of a dip. It's really overwhelming and I feel really bad. I don't remember it being like this. Anyone else struggling? I’m camped a 2 minute walk from Gate D in Dairy. If you fancy a beer/catching a band drop me a message but no pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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