Rock Werchter 2023

[Aech2ElectricBoogaloo]

Shame that the strokes came back with such an incredible album only to go on a disastrous festival tour, they can stay away. Do we think Muse will get a cohead this year?

[lighthouse]

7 hours ago, Aech2ElectricBoogaloo said:

Shame that the strokes came back with such an incredible album only to go on a disastrous festival tour, they can stay away. Do we think Muse will get a cohead this year?

Yes.

[BenG92]

Have Muse done something to upset RW? Were they supposed to be a co-head in 2019 and did a 2.5 hour set after someone pulled out or what? 

[charlierc]

57 minutes ago, BenG92 said:

Have Muse done something to upset RW? Were they supposed to be a co-head in 2019 and did a 2.5 hour set after someone pulled out or what? 

I mean, their RW 2019 set was a full headline show of similar length as other 2019 stadium gigs (I was at the London Stadium gig and that was a shade over 2hrs, though did get two songs more than Werchter). Their 2010 and 2015 slots were also as outright heads, but then given this year's had RHCP/Killers as co-heads, maybe its a change of policy.

[Sparticus]

1 hour ago, BenG92 said:

Have Muse done something to upset RW? Were they supposed to be a co-head in 2019 and did a 2.5 hour set after someone pulled out or what? 

I'm sure their 2019 day sold poorly, I think it more came down to too many repeat bookings and people weren't happy greta van fleet got shoehorned in as a sub. 

[Floyd_Ams]

9 hours ago, Aech2ElectricBoogaloo said:

Do we think Muse will get a cohead this year?

Nope! Muse might not be where they were until a couple of albums ago but they are still considered as absolute heads I think.They will probably get a sub as always and I hope for something better than GvF this time.

23 minutes ago, charlierc said:

but then given this year's had RHCP/Killers as co-heads, maybe its a change of policy.

They were not co-heads and they were not announced as such by RW. RHCP were the outright heads last summer.

[lighthouse]

37 minutes ago, Floyd_Ams said:

Nope! Muse might not be where they were until a couple of albums ago but they are still considered as absolute heads I think.They will probably get a sub as always and I hope for something better than GvF this time.

They were not co-heads and they were not announced as such by RW. RHCP were the outright heads last summer.

Killers and RHCP both played 1,5h.

Also, they will need a big name on top of Muse to sell out their day, last time Muse sold really poorly and their upcoming tour isnt exactly doing much better in terms of sales... Muse once was a huge name but now they have definitely peaked in terms of popularity. 

[Floyd_Ams]

24 minutes ago, lighthouse said:

Also, they will need a big name on top of Muse to sell out their day, last time Muse sold really poorly and their upcoming tour isnt exactly doing much better in terms of sales... Muse once was a huge name but now they have definitely peaked in terms of popularity. 

I don't disagree with that - They'll certainly need a strong name next to them and a good lineup overall that day but, on paper, Muse will still be the only headliner I believe. I don't expect them to announce another band as co-head. In the same way that AM are Sunday's headliners (unfortunately) although QOTSA are the ones saving the day so far. Maybe it's just semantics. Tbf, although there are many bands that will excite me a lot more than Muse I don't see many that are available and as "big" as them to headline.

[Aech2ElectricBoogaloo]

1 hour ago, lighthouse said:

Killers and RHCP both played 1,5h.

Also, they will need a big name on top of Muse to sell out their day, last time Muse sold really poorly and their upcoming tour isnt exactly doing much better in terms of sales... Muse once was a huge name but now they have definitely peaked in terms of popularity. 

Killers only ended up playing 75 mins.

[Archi]

1 hour ago, Aech2ElectricBoogaloo said:

Killers only ended up playing 75 mins.

They play less than scheduled for unknown reasons. Even on the day, it was still announced they gonna play 90 minutes. I was there and really upset they cut 15 minutes! On some posters, I'm pretty sure both RHCP and The Killers were on the same line. Muse will def get a co-headline.

[Boss89]

RHCP only played 90 minutes on their own stadium shows as well. Around 90 minutes is their average show length.

[charlierc]

6 hours ago, Archi said:

They play less than scheduled for unknown reasons. Even on the day, it was still announced they gonna play 90 minutes. I was there and really upset they cut 15 minutes! On some posters, I'm pretty sure both RHCP and The Killers were on the same line. Muse will def get a co-headline.

It may well be that I saw RHCP and Killers on the same line on the poster I saw online and interpreted it as a co-head. But if those actually at RW22 confirmed Killers did 75m and RHCP a 90m set, that probably is the more definitive answer to such a sequence.

Edited November 20, 2022 by charlierc

[Jefb]

19 minutes ago, charlierc said:

It may well be that I saw RHCP and Killers on the same line on the poster I saw online and interpreted it as a co-head. But if those actually at RW22 confirmed Killers did 75m and RHCP a 90m set, that probably is the more definitive answer to such a sequence.

They were both planned for 1u30 

[Nicklord]

The Killers played 75 and RHCP played 95 (but they also had a few minutes pause for the encore)

[thewayiam]

On 11/18/2022 at 12:17 PM, lighthouse said:

Crazy. Can see them adding a third Welbley too.

Considering they didn’t sell out Hyde Park in 2015, their popularity only got bigger.

They rarely tour and people have only been able to get back seeing bands this year after two. A lot of gigs are selling quick that wouldn't before. 

[Floyd_Ams]

9 hours ago, Archi said:

On some posters, I'm pretty sure both RHCP and The Killers were on the same line. Muse will def get a co-headline.

That was simply due the graphics style they chose this year and it was applied to all days. Metallica and Greta Van Fleet were also on the same line on the official poster but they were definitely not meant to be co-heads. 

In 2019 TOOL and The Cure were co-headlining. The Cure were planned for 2h15' with TOOL playing after them for 1h30'.

The rule usually applies but not always. I expect a strong name next to Muse (they need it indeed) but I would be very (and positively) surprised if they announce a second headliner for Saturday. I expect the opposite for Thursday, hopefully with blur.

[lighthouse]

Blur playing Ireland on June 24h. 

[ParanoidTourist]

1 hour ago, lighthouse said:

Blur playing Ireland on June 24h. 

Excellent! More and more signs of a European tour.

I we get Blur and the Smile I will never complain about the line up again😉

Edited November 21, 2022 by ParanoidTourist

[49Lawson]

Who are we taking from this list then?

[Nicklord]

The Black Keys, Disturbed and Hollywood Vampires being that low is really strange when you compare to lowercase acts of the other 2 days

[Archi]

Could RW announce some news at 4pm? Or maybe on Friday?

They could take basically take almost all the bands on this line-up except the headliners... Obviously, Disturbed, Hollywood Vampires and I Prevail should be at Graspop. But for the rest: RW could take Electric Callboy, The Hu and Nova Twins.

[49Lawson]

5 minutes ago, Nicklord said:

The Black Keys, Disturbed and Hollywood Vampires being that low is really strange when you compare to lowercase acts of the other 2 days

Yeah, Black Keys being where they are just makes me think they’re third down on AM/QOTSA day for some reason

[Floyd_Ams]

3 minutes ago, 49Lawson said:

Who are we taking from this list then?

If we exclude the ones that did RW in '22 and the ones that we already know are coming this year, I'd personally prefer most of the names on that list to stay away. The Hu would be an interesting one, the Black Keys will probably be there anyway and...that's it!

[Floyd_Ams]

Btw, looking at Pinkpop's announcement I'm thinking: Wouldn't this be perfect timing for Werchter to throw blur on the table?

[49Lawson]

6 minutes ago, Floyd_Ams said:

Btw, looking at Pinkpop's announcement I'm thinking: Wouldn't this be perfect timing for Werchter to throw blur on the table?

I was thinking that before, if Pinkpop, Nos, Mad Cool and Sziget are all announcing things this week with a sizeable chunk of undercard; it would surely be beneficial for Werchter to show us what else is on the table?

I know they’re often patient and can often afford to be due to the quality of line ups, but with so much competition and people wanting to commit before prices go up for travel etc it feels wise that they give us a batch of names soon.

One thing I am thinking though, Ken said Foos might be on the table for here and Pinkpop. Obviously they aren’t playing Pinkpop now, so do we need to consider that Werchter now need another headliner?