Cost of Living and Glastonbury

[nikkic]

1 hour ago, JoeyT said:

*Early* predictions of £6.6k - £7k+ when April's price cap comes around.

So £550 - £600 per month for the average UK household.

Head melting stuff.

If it continues, this will do more harm than Covid. 

[fraybentos1]

1 minute ago, fred quimby said:

Bookmarks comment 😉

Haha! Yeah I hope I'm not being too ambitious there but I am unsure how many people could cope if this lasted over 2 years. I moved into my flat with my gf May 2021, direct debit £55 quid. Now it is £113, ok we could take that. Now it'll be like 200 quid. For a one bed flat lol. We are planning on fucking off for a few months in January to go travelling so hopefully miss a chunk of the Winter of Discontent 2.0.

[fraybentos1]

The glasto tickets might go on sale before people have been hit with their first bill on the new rates

[efcfanwirral]

7 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

The glasto tickets might go on sale before people have been hit with their first bill on the new rates

Deposits too so I'd expect that will be as busy as usual, just with a lot more dropping out at balance payment time

Edited August 26, 2022 by efcfanwirral

[dotdash79]

20 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

The glasto tickets might go on sale before people have been hit with their first bill on the new rates

My direct debit will change on the 1st October expect most others to change on that date.

[sedra]

Am more concerned about impact on small businesses as have been reading about them having to pay really high energy contracts - it will put venues at risk again and ticket prices will need to go up as well as all the other businesses and organisations that use high energy- hospitality, animal sanctuaries, well everything basically- inflation and recession double whammy- it will be like the 80’s again !! 

[gigpusher]

1 minute ago, sedra said:

Am more concerned about impact on small businesses as have been reading about them having to pay really high energy contracts - it will put venues at risk again and ticket prices will need to go up as well as all the other businesses and organisations that use high energy- hospitality, animal sanctuaries, well everything basically- inflation and recession double whammy- it will be like the 80’s again !! 

Yep have seen some restaurants talking about the cost of being open and honestly I'd imagine we'll see many becoming weekend only venues because the cost of staying open would be too great. 

[gooner1990]

1 minute ago, gigpusher said:

Yep have seen some restaurants talking about the cost of being open and honestly I'd imagine we'll see many becoming weekend only venues because the cost of staying open would be too great. 

Couple of places near me are now closed on Mon & Tues....won't be long before that extends in no days and venues.

[efcfanwirral]

3 minutes ago, sedra said:

Am more concerned about impact on small businesses as have been reading about them having to pay really high energy contracts - it will put venues at risk again and ticket prices will need to go up as well as all the other businesses and organisations that use high energy- hospitality, animal sanctuaries, well everything basically- inflation and recession double whammy- it will be like the 80’s again !! 

 

1 minute ago, gigpusher said:

Yep have seen some restaurants talking about the cost of being open and honestly I'd imagine we'll see many becoming weekend only venues because the cost of staying open would be too great. 

Yeah this is the big thing - help for households, whatever it ends up being, is fine IF people keep their jobs. Not helping businesses ensures they won't. 

I also think the same about hospitality - weekend only if that in a lot of cases. Not sure event venues will be able to sustain it at all. 

[fred quimby]

Wonderfully my company 2 weeks ago suggested I reduce my payments, as if they didn't know this new increase was just around the corner. 

Hoping for a mild winter

[Matt42]

This is just disgusting. The standing charge alone looking to be higher than my typical monthly bill. 

This is just corporate greed, and why is it happening? Because we don’t get up and do something about it.

Read this article and try not to gouge out your eyes. Typical old people feeling nostalgic for poverty, this weird attitude of “it was better in my day when we only had scraps for dinner and froze to death at night”. 
 

The tories have such a grip on old people because the older generation has shit self esteem and has romanticised the bootlicking life. I fucking hate it. Stop selling the new generations down the river because in your old age you’ve romanticised the days you were poor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62631660

Edited August 26, 2022 by Matt42

[Matt42]

Guys - all your efforts to cut back on pricing mean jack shit if the standing charges are already sky high (and will likely go up).

There is no way to mitigate this. There is no way to cut down your cost.

[danmarks]

I can't see anything in that article that says they preferred the good old days. Please highlight it for me.

[Matt42]

8 minutes ago, danmarks said:

I can't see anything in that article that says they preferred the good old days. Please highlight it for me.

Shirley Daniels, 82, a retired carer visits the caravan regularly to socialise with fellow villagers. She said she's fed up with the news and everyone talking about the cost of living.

"You don't want to hear it. It is hard for everybody."

Talking about how she will cope during the colder months, she said: "Regarding heating and things, well if I can't afford it, I won't put it on because I won't get in to debt. I've never been in debt in my life. I'll just cut back on food as well if I have to. I'd have a tin of soup and a roll, hopefully that would warm you up.

"I'd either wrap myself in a blanket or go to my granddaughter's and sit with her if it's really cold. I won't be a burden to anybody. I'll just get on with it, that's what we do. We have to."

Shes basically saying everyone is making a big fuss over nothing and tin soup and a roll is all they need. Sounds like she’s looking back at archaic methods and completely missing the point that her prices and worry about debt will come whether she puts the heating on or not. Complete bootlicker in that she gets fucked over and thinks all she has to do is get on with it.

Edited August 26, 2022 by Matt42

[fraybentos1]

6 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Guys - all your efforts to cut back on pricing mean jack shit if the standing charges are already sky high (and will likely go up).

There is no way to mitigate this. There is no way to cut down your cost.

I mean, this isn't true. Standing charges are obviously obscene but it still only makes up a fraction of the total energy bill.

[st dan]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-62685067

Concerning to see Martin Lewis speak like this. Usually so level headed and calm, and he’s visibly holding back the tears and anger here. 

[Matt42]

Just now, fraybentos1 said:

I mean, this isn't true. Standing charges are obviously obscene but it still only makes up a fraction of the total energy bill.

Standing charges alone could be £200 a month.

[fred quimby]

8 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Standing charges alone could be £200 a month.

Think you need to check your maths. 

Electric 56p a day

Gas 27p a day

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by fred quimby

[danmarks]

16 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

Shirley Daniels, 82, a retired carer visits the caravan regularly to socialise with fellow villagers. She said she's fed up with the news and everyone talking about the cost of living.

"You don't want to hear it. It is hard for everybody."

Talking about how she will cope during the colder months, she said: "Regarding heating and things, well if I can't afford it, I won't put it on because I won't get in to debt. I've never been in debt in my life. I'll just cut back on food as well if I have to. I'd have a tin of soup and a roll, hopefully that would warm you up.

"I'd either wrap myself in a blanket or go to my granddaughter's and sit with her if it's really cold. I won't be a burden to anybody. I'll just get on with it, that's what we do. We have to."

Shes basically saying everyone is making a big fuss over nothing and tin soup and a roll is all they need. Sounds like she’s looking back at archaic methods and completely missing the point that her prices and worry about debt will come whether she puts the heating on or not. Complete bootlicker in that she gets fucked over and thinks all she has to do is get on with it.

Think we will agree to differ here.

Someone saying- hopefully ill be ok and i may only be able to afford soup and a roll but i cant see any other choice -doesn't equate to me with- yeah i bloody loved the old days,  cant wait for rickets and nits and poor houses. 

[stuie]

I'm sick to death of the narrative that only Liz Truss or Riski fucking Sunak can save us now. 

Why so much air time is being given to this when only 0.2% of us have a vote I have no idea.

The Tories have really fucked us this time.

 

 

[gigpusher]

50 minutes ago, Matt42 said:

This is just disgusting. The standing charge alone looking to be higher than my typical monthly bill. 

This is just corporate greed, and why is it happening? Because we don’t get up and do something about it.

Read this article and try not to gouge out your eyes. Typical old people feeling nostalgic for poverty, this weird attitude of “it was better in my day when we only had scraps for dinner and froze to death at night”. 
 

The tories have such a grip on old people because the older generation has shit self esteem and has romanticised the bootlicking life. I fucking hate it. Stop selling the new generations down the river because in your old age you’ve romanticised the days you were poor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62631660

Yep my answer to those old people is that one of the main effects of that lifestyle was that people didn't get to be as old in the those times. If old people are so desperate to get back to that time they need to be dying about 10 years earlier so ask them how much they really want to go back to that time then! 

[efcfanwirral]

28 minutes ago, danmarks said:

Think we will agree to differ here.

Someone saying- hopefully ill be ok and i may only be able to afford soup and a roll but i cant see any other choice -doesn't equate to me with- yeah i bloody loved the old days,  cant wait for rickets and nits and poor houses. 

I read the quote as "stop moaning, if I can deal with it you can". Basically calling current generations soft, probably because they had war suffering stories from their parents and grandparents to compare it to

[moogster]

Just went to get groceries and am sure my discounter coffee went up 10%. Kids and their fancy drinks... Hot water and a dash of dandelion root, that's how we did it during the war! 

[kalifire]

55 minutes ago, st dan said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-62685067

Concerning to see Martin Lewis speak like this. Usually so level headed and calm, and he’s visibly holding back the tears and anger here. 

Wow, yeah he’s been warning about this for months and months, and has to reconcile that he’s not the bridge between despair and hope he knows he could be if this zombie government were in any way competent. 

[dotdash79]

1 hour ago, Matt42 said:

"I'd either wrap myself in a blanket or go to my granddaughter's and sit with her if it's really cold. I won't be a burden to anybody. I'll just get on with it, that's what we do. We have to."

I mean in 2 sentences she gone from going to her grand daughter to use her heated home to declaring she won't be a burden to anyone.

This is why we are ruined as a country