gooner1990 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, SouthbanKen said: And worse still, your drinking Heineken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzared Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, gazzared said: Fuck Yeah forgot about that, thanks.on my way to Costco 👍 Queue is feffin massive...too early for a hotdog ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faymondo Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, gazzared said: Queue is feffin massive...too early for a hotdog ? It's never too early for a hotdog !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzared Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, faymondo said: It's never too early for a hotdog !! Queue was massive for hotdogs aswell 🤣😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a6l6e6x Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Skip997 said: Where's this info from? Pure guesswork Do think it needs a serious hike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DeanoL said: There's alternatives to massively raising the price. They'll at least be considering making significant cuts in order to bring costs down. By which I mean ditching an entire stage or area. That feels like the start of a slippery slope. One year it's "do we need Poetry and Words?", next it's "actually we can do away with The Temple or The Glade..." then before you know it you've got a hugely watered down experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, scatteredscreens said: Yeah... When I predicted 325 - 350 I was hoping it was more gonna be around the former. That was my thinking, 325, but now we’ve a government that puts dogma and ideology before pragmatism and social justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said: That feels like the start of a slippery slope. One year it's "do we need Poetry and Words?", next it's "actually we can do away with The Temple or The Glade..." then before you know it you've got a hugely watered down experience. i don't think there's any way to downsize without it damaging the whole event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Cream Soda said: I hope not. I'd rather pay more if needs be and have the full experience 12 minutes ago, Neil said: i don't think there's any way to downsize without it damaging the whole event. SH could be scrapped surely would save a decent bit - although they just got in that new team so that would be quite shitty. maybe move that team to unfairground so that can be sorted out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 If you start scrapping stages though wouldn't that have a knock-on impact for capacity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Leyrulion said: If you start scrapping stages though wouldn't that have a knock-on impact for capacity? Definitely. And given some people this year thought pinch points and overcrowding were quite bad, closing areas is only going to make that worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Leyrulion said: If you start scrapping stages though wouldn't that have a knock-on impact for capacity? yeah, capacity is based on where there is for people to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Leyrulion said: If you start scrapping stages though wouldn't that have a knock-on impact for capacity? Oh yeah definitely. But there are radical options there. With the new sound system at Other you could take out Oxylers and make that a bigger capacity stage and then kill of the John Peel tent and make it camping. Not saying I'm in favour of this but if costs really are an issue then there are options. The thing I'd be really concerned about is the late night areas. They don't really help with capacity as they're mostly empty during the day. They're hardly featured on the BBC coverage either. If Silver Hayes went there wouldn't be much impact. Even the naughty corner could be vastly simplified and reduced to a few big dance tents with no-name DJs. It'd piss people off for sure and certainly cut the appeal of the festival to some people, but I've never got the impression that the Eavii really actually care about the after-dark festival-in-a-festival. They hardly ever talk about, and nor do the media. I genuinely do question if faced with the choice of massively cutting the after-dark elements of the fest, or pricing out a significant chunk of the audience, they would necessarily go with the latter. I don't want it to happen either but if ticket prices are going to be looking like £350 I can almost guarantee it's at least being discussed as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 hours ago, scatteredscreens said: Any other festival, yeah. I just don't think Glastonbury would go around slashing areas or stages. They kind of did, this year. Genosys was a shadow of its former self and there might have been one or two other smaller venues cut in the SEC corner, if I recall correctly. That said, Silver Hayes seemed like it received a little more investment, but that might have benefitted from having the LSTD collaboration. I had it on good authority that a key reason for some reduced staging was the price of scaffolding, amongst other materials. Also, that certain areas were working to 2018 budget levels in 2022. I'd very much doubt that they can sustain the required production levels and maintain those financial restrictions in 2023 but we'll see... If they did want to save some cash, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they ditched San Remo. I wonder if Arcadia might get a rethink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: They kind of did, this year. Genosys was a shadow of its former self and there might have been one or two other smaller venues cut in the SEC corner, if I recall correctly. That said, Silver Hayes seemed like it received a little more investment, but that might have benefitted from having the LSTD collaboration. I had it on good authority that a key reason for some reduced staging was the price of scaffolding, amongst other materials. Also, that certain areas were working to 2018 budget levels in 2022. I'd very much doubt that they can sustain the required production levels and maintain those financial restrictions in 2023 but we'll see... If they did want to save some cash, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they ditched San Remo. I wonder if Arcadia might get a rethink? Never even heard of the Genosys area tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 Problem is that every part, area, stage or tent of the festival will be someone's favourite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, DeanoL said: The thing I'd be really concerned about is the late night areas. They don't really help with capacity as they're mostly empty during the day. They're hardly featured on the BBC coverage either. If Silver Hayes went there wouldn't be much impact. Even the naughty corner could be vastly simplified and reduced to a few big dance tents with no-name DJs. It'd piss people off for sure and certainly cut the appeal of the festival to some people, but I've never got the impression that the Eavii really actually care about the after-dark festival-in-a-festival. They hardly ever talk about, and nor do the media. There's a reason for this. The BBC are not allowed to report from or broadcast from "the naughty corner". The reason given by Emily was that people don't want to be seen there by their parents/bosses whatever. The late night areas need to stay, imagine the chaos if there was no post midnight entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgill3 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: Genosys was a shadow of its former self and there might have been one or two other smaller venues cut in the SEC corner Am I right in saying the rumour is Genosys went mouldy sitting in storage and so they had to do something at the eleventh hour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgill3 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skip997 said: There's a reason for this. The BBC are not allowed to report from or broadcast from "the naughty corner". The reason given by Emily was that people don't want to be seen there by their parents/bosses whatever. The late night areas need to stay, imagine the chaos if there was no post midnight entertainment. I'd arguably increase the size of the late night areas. Were absolutely rammed at times this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, rgill3 said: I'd arguably increase the size of the late night areas. Were absolutely rammed at times this year. I'd love it if they did. 10pm - 5am is the festival for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Hugh Jass II said: That feels like the start of a slippery slope. One year it's "do we need Poetry and Words?", next it's "actually we can do away with The Temple or The Glade..." then before you know it you've got a hugely watered down experience. The future is 160,000 crowded round the Bandstand, watching Mik Artistik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoL Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said: Problem is that every part, area, stage or tent of the festival will be someone's favourite. Absolutely. But I also think it's pretty clear where the festival owners hearts are in all of it. I'm not saying we'd turn up and there'd just be no Shangri-La, it'd come with the ticket price "Soaring costs mean we have had to take some significant steps to keep prices affordable this year. As a result we're scaling back the late night entertainment on site." It'd be clear on booking. 10 minutes ago, Skip997 said: There's a reason for this. The BBC are not allowed to report from or broadcast from "the naughty corner". The reason given by Emily was that people don't want to be seen there by their parents/bosses whatever. The late night areas need to stay, imagine the chaos if there was no post midnight entertainment. If people knew in advance that that part of the festival wasn't happening they would likely not book tickets, that's what would need to be balanced against how many people you'd loose if the price went up. I get the impression that if it was a choice between losing the late-night revellers, or losing the less well-off and the families, the festival would pick the former. And these are the stark choices they'll be facing. There's middle-ground too though. You can provide *some* late night entertainment much more cheaply - we could see the popular venues massively expanded and the smaller ones ditched. Who knows. I'm not arguing for any of this, it's just these are the places where cuts can happen without compromising on capacity because they're pretty much empty during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, DeanoL said: If people knew in advance that that part of the festival wasn't happening they would likely not book tickets, that's what would need to be balanced against how many people you'd loose if the price went up. If I were a punter, I'd not bother going without the late night areas. As crew it's a bit different. In the days before the late night areas backstage bars would run all night or at least very late. 3 minutes ago, DeanoL said: . I get the impression that if it was a choice between losing the late-night revellers, or losing the less well-off and the families, the festival would pick the former. Sadly this is true and just goes to show the direction the festival is going in. Not the direction I'm in favour of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Leyrulion said: If you start scrapping stages though wouldn't that have a knock-on impact for capacity? There was a lot less performers this year on the Wednesday and Thursday but it didn’t seem to affect folk enjoying themselves, though we missed some of the performances in the bars etc. If the pound continues to drop then overseas bands will also cost more. Problem with scrapping a stage is that it would create even more issues with crowds. anyway back to tricks getting a ticket, it’s all down to chance so wearing lucky pants is as good as anything Edited September 26, 2022 by Ayrshire Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, rgill3 said: Am I right in saying the rumour is Genosys went mouldy sitting in storage and so they had to do something at the eleventh hour? I'd not heard that. It could be true, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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