2024 Festival

[Benj]

4 minutes ago, gblock said:

The phrase 'money to burn' is clearly a hyperbole to exaggerate their point that AL is not exactly a megastar act and top of everybody's 2024 wishlist, but more of a novelty act people are going to see to relive their teens. I also highly doubt that Benj is an elected conservative MP...

The average 30-40yr old in the UK does have a significant disposable income btw, according to the ONS, or rather the correct term here is discretionary income. Especially in London, hence 2 dates at the O2.

I am actually a Tory MP, otherwise everything else you say is spot on 👍🏼

[gblock]

3 minutes ago, Benj said:

I am actually a Tory MP, otherwise everything else you say is spot on 👍🏼

Damn. Ben Wallace alt account confirmed

[gfa]

53 minutes ago, Benj said:

Think Editors are only strangely MASSIVE in Belgium. I think there are a few outliers in Belgium, which I guess kind of makes sense due to having a few languages in such a tiny place

…That said Lavigne is not headlining a mainstream Reading sized festival in the U.K.

The focus isn't on Editors here - the point is that Avril Lavigne is getting big slots across Europe and theres no reason why the uk would be any different.

I don't think she's likely for MSW headline but she does seem around that size

[Chad888]

33 minutes ago, Andre91 said:

You’re in Belize and you’re on a festival forum? You don’t deserve nice things. 

It's 9:20 and I'm sat in the hotel cafe, enjoying a latte while I wait for my wife. I'm allowed to scroll my phone while I wait Andy.

[On The Blend]

Bloody hell, I quote one tone deaf comment and this page starts sounding like a Daily Mail article on the temerity of people queueing at foodbanks to own shoes... 

[Mcbatesman]

What do people think the chances of Kendrick Lamar and lana del Rey headlining?

[Andre91]

16 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

It's 9:20 and I'm sat in the hotel cafe, enjoying a latte while I wait for my wife. I'm allowed to scroll my phone while I wait Andy.

You’re in Central America and you’re drinking a latte? Heathen. 

[Chad888]

Just now, Mcbatesman said:

What do people think the chances of Kendrick Lamar and lana del Rey headlining?

They aren't there this year. Kendrick is one of the R&B acts that FR like though. Travis Scott, Kendrick Lamar, Post Malone etc

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

They aren't there this year. Kendrick is one of the R&B acts that FR like though. Travis Scott, Kendrick Lamar, Post Malone etc

R&B?

[Mcbatesman]

18 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

They aren't there this year. Kendrick is one of the R&B acts that FR like though. Travis Scott, Kendrick Lamar, Post Malone etc

What makes you say they definitely aren't there?

[Benj]

1 hour ago, gfa said:

The focus isn't on Editors here - the point is that Avril Lavigne is getting big slots across Europe and theres no reason why the uk would be any different.

I don't think she's likely for MSW headline but she does seem around that size

Her size in Europe is as big an irrelevance as Editors to her size in the U.K

Again to try and bring some actual data into the equation. She’s (second) headlining a festival in Germany, based on the metrics she’s used here, she is objectively bigger in Germany

From 2018 but proves the at she remained significantly more relevant in Germany and is therefore likely bigger still now with the latest push in Germany

https://chartmasters.org/avril-lavignes-global-heatmap/

Another reason why she may remain unusually more popular in Europe

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/2021/04/05/the-mystery-of-avril-lavignes-girlfriend-and-foreign-language-remixes/

Also, for what it’s worth, her last 2 albums have charted significantly higher in Germany than the UK

Edited November 8, 2023 by Benj

[Benj]

50 minutes ago, On The Blend said:

Bloody hell, I quote one tone deaf comment and this page starts sounding like a Daily Mail article on the temerity of people queueing at foodbanks to own shoes... 

🤣 logicalfallacytastic

[Mcbatesman]

17 minutes ago, Benj said:

Her size in Europe is as big an irrelevance as Editors to her size in the U.K

Again to try and bring some actual data into the equation. She’s (second) headlining a festival in Germany, based on the metrics she’s used here, she is objectively bigger in Germany

From 2018 but proves the at she remained significantly more relevant in Germany and is therefore likely bigger still now with the latest push in Germany

https://chartmasters.org/avril-lavignes-global-heatmap/

Another reason why she may remain unusually more popular in Europe

https://dailyutahchronicle.com/2021/04/05/the-mystery-of-avril-lavignes-girlfriend-and-foreign-language-remixes/

Also for what it’s worth l, her last 2 albums have charted significantly higher in Germany than the UK

Her last album charted higher in the UK.....

[Benj]

3 minutes ago, Mcbatesman said:

Her last album charted higher in the UK.....

Gah, I was reading the US numbers on the album section on mobile. I also had the wrong German column 🤣

Still means she’s smaller than The Lathums though on that front!

[Aromaticmusic1]

Chances of catfish? Where would they fit into the lineup?

[Gejonimo]

1 minute ago, Aromaticmusic1 said:

Chances of catfish? Where would they fit into the lineup?

I think high chance. Seeing as a new line up, probably 2nd/3rd down on the day

[Mcbatesman]

1 minute ago, Benj said:

Gah, I was reading the US numbers on the album section on mobile. I also had the wrong German column 🤣

Still means she’s smaller than The Lathums though on that front!

Yes and no, without actually knowing the sales figures the chart positions are slightly irrelevant.

 

Blinks last album got two number 2 but probably sold enough to get to number 1 most weeks (just happened to release the same time as rolling stones) but you would in no way say blink are smaller than the lathums

[Benj]

3 minutes ago, Mcbatesman said:

Yes and no, without actually knowing the sales figures the chart positions are slightly irrelevant.

 

Blinks last album got two number 2 but probably sold enough to get to number 1 most weeks (just happened to release the same time as rolling stones) but you would in no way say blink are smaller than the lathums

Yup, ultimately it’s an utter irrelevance (which is why I added the “for what it’s worth originally”), esp when comparing country to country

Looking at the numbers Lavigne didn’t drop of as much as quickly as I thought in the U.K.

There is still zero chance of her playing second (as in 2nd headliner) at Reading though…

 

[Mcbatesman]

Just now, Benj said:

Yup, ultimately it’s an utter irrelevance (which is why I added the “for what it’s worth originally”), esp when comparing country to country

Looking at the numbers Lavigne didn’t drop of as much as quickly as I thought in the U.K.

There is still zero chance of her playing second (as in 2nd headliner) at Reading though…

 

Tbh I have no idea what this argument is about and whose making what point 😂😂

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Gejonimo said:

I think high chance. Seeing as a new line up, probably 2nd/3rd down on the day

If Catfish are back they'd headline MSW again. They're probably a good shout actually, considering the potential pool of headliners for that crowd seems to be pretty slim this year. One or two of Catfish, Liam Gallagher, Gerry Cinnamon or Kasabian will be there next year I reckon.

Worth mentioning that 2024 will be 10 years since Catfish's debut, which might be what the tour is about.

[On The Blend]

Liam would be MSE these days surely? He seems to have got crazy popular of late

[Mcbatesman]

37 minutes ago, Gejonimo said:

I think high chance. Seeing as a new line up, probably 2nd/3rd down on the day

Also where have you seen this??

[Benj]

1 hour ago, Mcbatesman said:

Tbh I have no idea what this argument is about and whose making what point 😂😂

🤣

Basically, I’d personally be horrified if Lavigne was announced as a MSW headliner, while others would think it was about right.

Im pretty sure we’re fulfilling Chads talking ourselves down prophecy with this. 

Next thing we know Papa Roach will be nailed on for a sub spot 🤣

[Benj]

59 minutes ago, On The Blend said:

Liam would be MSE these days surely? He seems to have got crazy popular of late

Gallagher? Yes

[charlierc]

19 hours ago, Chad888 said:

Last 10 years punching well above:

2013 - Mumford and Sons

2014 - Kasabian, Arcade Fire

2015 - Legendary headliners: Kanye, Foos, The Who - this is insane

2016-23 - none

 

I don't think Kasabian or Arcade Fire was that weak at the time. Maybe in retrospect it looks that way but both seemed quite popular then. Kasabian definitely drew a crowd, and might still do even with their adjustment. Not sure what Arcade Fire's status is, particularly after they skipped the UK last summer.