fraybentos1 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GlastoFlow said: Could Bombay Bicycle Club be a Park headliner? They’ve announced a small tour this year. I’m thinking there may be a bigger tour in the pipeline for next year? Was shocked they weren't there this year. I'd really like it and could see them playing next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, thewomble said: Honestly was shocked by all the Dua Lipa suggestions but didn't realise just how many festivals she played pretty high up for last year. I've seen her a few times and enjoyed it - just still not sure I see her as a pyramid headliner! Don't ask me why! Taylor I'd have totally bet on but people pointing out the logistics of swapping from her current massive stadium tour to do one festival set are giving me doubts... Really hoping for Foo Fighters after our disastrous attempt at getting tour tickets this morning. Picked Hozier over them at Glasto as well with the thoughts of "I'll see them on tour next year anyway" I mean all the reasons people are saying Taylor Swift can't also applied to Beyonce and she managed to overcome it to perform. So I'm not putting any validity in these reasons. An artist having a different set up for glasto to the rest of there tour is normal. Personally I think Dua is definiyltly big enough to headline but Emily said both female headliners were debutants and Dua also does not seem to have any plans to tour next year, after 3 years future nostalgia tour is over. I'm not a massive fan of either but trying to apply a small amount of objectivity to this process makes me think TS is the more likely for next year with DL to headline alongside her next album. There are some very committed Dua Lipa fans who want to ignore the "both are debutants" description of the headliners" (Dua has played 4 times) and I can't believe Taylor Swift would have been booked for the now cancelled covid year and they didn't try to rearrange her for a future year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieGed Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, SomeoneListeningIn said: In terms of 'new' acts coming through, I think all of these should and probably will headline this decade. Dua Lipa, Dave, Olivia Rodrigo, Sam Fender, Fred Again. A decent mix there, I think. Sam Fender 2025 for me. New album late 2024/2025 and then take on the headliner spot with a few more songs as big as 17 GU/Hypersonic Missiles. Think Fred Again could ultimately find himself in the Other headliner criteria unless we he releases a smash hit of sorts, although going off of last Friday's performance which is one of my favourite ever Glastonbury shows, he could definitely pull it off. I think Dave with another critically acclaimed album is a sure thing too, it just depends on timing as I think 2024 is Dua, and 2025 is Fender, so not sure if he finds a space in the mix over those two years or not, which I think will depend on the size of the guitar/heritage act that Glasto may bag to balance things out (AC/DC, Madonna, Fleetwood Mac). Whether your cup of tea or not, it's at least refreshing to have a number of new names floating around the scene as to who could realistically take the top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, StevieGed said: Sam Fender 2025 for me. New album late 2024/2025 and then take on the headliner spot with a few more songs as big as 17 GU/Hypersonic Missiles. Think Fred Again could ultimately find himself in the Other headliner criteria unless we he releases a smash hit of sorts, although going off of last Friday's performance which is one of my favourite ever Glastonbury shows, he could definitely pull it off. I think Dave with another critically acclaimed album is a sure thing too, it just depends on timing as I think 2024 is Dua, and 2025 is Fender, so not sure if he finds a space in the mix over those two years or not, which I think will depend on the size of the guitar/heritage act that Glasto may bag to balance things out (AC/DC, Madonna, Fleetwood Mac). Whether your cup of tea or not, it's at least refreshing to have a number of new names floating around the scene as to who could realistically take the top spot. I agree that 2024 will likely be Dua and 2025 Sam Fender, but Dave is different enough in genre from both that I don't think it'd matter if he was headlining alongside either of them. It would be cool to see two new acts headline in one year, especially given this years trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, AVALON.G said: I can't believe Taylor Swift would have been booked for the now cancelled covid year and they didn't try to rearrange her for a future year. Might be wrong but was there not also a quote from Emily about someone already being booked in for 2025? Because if so it would make perfect sense for that person to be Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 I'd almost put money on Sam Fender doing 2025 as I expect him to be nowhere next year and it off of a new album. Taylor's tour will be wrapper up by 2025. Wouldn't be surprised to see Sam and Dave both in that year. I'd even put FF in the 25 mix as well as Coldplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyDunlop Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Sam Fender had billboards up around Newcastle with a QR code that took you to pre order album 3 I believe it's coming in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass II Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Fender is when, not if, if he gets the next album out in time he's definitely in the conversation for 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 24 - Dua, Madonna, Foos 25 - Fender, Coldplay, Swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Rose-Colored Boy said: Might be wrong but was there not also a quote from Emily about someone already being booked in for 2025? Because if so it would make perfect sense for that person to be Taylor. Yeah I thought the same. She will have a tweaked show planned. It was probably wrapped up when they had to cancel last time. The reasons people think its definitely not Taylor Swift are very flimsy, I'm not buying it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Fender, Madge, O-Rod 2024 Dave, Swift, Coldplay/Muse/Adele/Sheeran/Beyonce 2025 Job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, AVALON.G said: I mean all the reasons people are saying Taylor Swift can't also applied to Beyonce and she managed to overcome it to perform. That's obviously not true, there was a 3 day turnaround instead of next day, and a substantially less intricate show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, incident said: That's obviously not true, there was a 3 day turnaround instead of next day, and a substantially less intricate show. She also did a very similar set at T in the Park and Oxegen the following month, to make it more worth her while designing a show suitable for festival stages. If Taylor gets announced for TRNSMT 2024 or whatever then it’ll be a relevant comparison. Edited June 30, 2023 by Rose-Colored Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, incident said: That's obviously not true, there was a 3 day turnaround instead of next day, and a substantially less intricate show. She played Glasto 24 hours before a run of dates in London. The difference here is that Glasto was at the start of the run for Beyonce. Beyonce show was huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 This is Beyonce within 24 hours of playing Glastonbury.... The same logic you are using to rule Taylor out. Would also rule Beyonce out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby's Old Boots Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GlastoFlow said: Could Bombay Bicycle Club be a Park headliner? They’ve announced a small tour this year. I’m thinking there may be a bigger tour in the pipeline for next year? I think so yeah, if Alt-J did this year. New BBC record has Damon Albarn on, so when he's there with blur next year he can jump on with them at the park 😉 Edited June 30, 2023 by Nobby's Old Boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drinky Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Damon didn't jump on with Amadou and Mariam this year disappointingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, AVALON.G said: This is Beyonce within 24 hours of playing Glastonbury.... The same logic you are using to rule Taylor out. Would also rule Beyonce out Wait so is your argument ‘Beyonce once did a TV special as part of a very limited summer promotional tour for a new album and therefore Taylor Swift is going to find the time and energy during an 117-date global tour where each show lasts for over three hours to design a special show just for Glastonbury which doesn’t even pay very much’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rose-Colored Boy said: Wait so is your argument ‘Beyonce once did a TV special as part of a very limited summer promotional tour for a new album and therefore Taylor Swift is going to find the time and energy during an 117-date global tour where each show lasts for over three hours to design a special show just for Glastonbury which doesn’t even pay very much’ Yes it's possible to do two different shows in two different places on consecutive days in amongst a world tour. Edited June 30, 2023 by AVALON.G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, AVALON.G said: Yes it's possible to do two different shows in two different places on consecutive days in amongst a world tour. The point myself, Rose-Colored boy and others are trying to make over and over is not that its 'impossible' Just that its logically extremely unlikely. I'd say 1-2% chance at this stage personally Edited June 30, 2023 by JonSnow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JonSnow said: The point myself, Rose-Colored boy and others are trying to make over and over is not that its 'impossible' Just that its logically extremely unlikely. I'd say 1-2% chance at this stage personally And the point I'm trying to make is that I dont think the evidence against it being Taylor is any wear near as strong as you believe it to be. I'd go 50% on TS right now. Same as the Elton not headlining argument last year. Edited June 30, 2023 by AVALON.G Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AVALON.G said: And the point I'm trying to make is that I dont think the evidence against it being Taylor is any wear near as strong as you believe it to be. I'd go 50% on TS right now. If you think there is a 50% chance she will create and rehearse a brand new show to perform once and only once, at a festival that pays low, rehearsing for this show slap bang in the middle of her stadium tour, and then perform it exactly 24 hours after performing her stadium show in another country (assuming she doesn't just announce another Dublin date on this date anyway) then that is your right and we will have to agree to disagree. Edited June 30, 2023 by JonSnow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, AVALON.G said: Yes it's possible to do two different shows in two different places on consecutive days in amongst a world tour. Beyoncé didn’t do a “world tour” in 2011, she did seven shows in Europe to promote a new album, a four show mini-residency in New York, a few TV appearances and then had a baby. The comparison with the Eras Tour is completely non existent. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVALON.G Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Similar arguments were made about Elton John last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, JonSnow said: If you think there is a 50% chance she will create and rehearse a brand new show to perform once and only once, at a festival that pays low, rehearsing for this show slap bang in the middle of her stadium tour, and then perform it exactly 24 hours after performing her stadium show in another country (assuming she doesn't just announce another Dublin date on this date anyway) then that is your right and we will have to agree to disagree. There is a minuscule, 1% chance of it happening if she plays Coachella, which would also require a different set-up and actually pays enough for it to be worth the trouble. If she did that then it would be fairly straightforward to get that across the Atlantic for Glastonbury )and presumably a few other festivals too). But that still doesn’t solve the issue of the strong likelihood of her adding a Sunday night in Dublin. This entire conversation is utterly pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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