Drinky Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, GrumpyRaver said: She’ll struggle to headline T Feel like pure sh*t just want the airfield at Balado back, stupid oil pipeline Edited July 18, 2023 by Drinky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superscally Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 14 hours ago, northernangel said: Come on now, even the sales suggest I'm correct. They reached Gold certification from one accreditor for both and comfortably the lowest selling of any of theirs. 247k and 120k on the most recent. Half the sales of the two previous worst and over 1200k less than AM. Even Sonic Highways beat that. Battle Born beat that. Wonderful Wonderful beat The Car, as did Imagine Dragons' Smoke and Mirrors and that was when you had to make an effort to buy and not just Spotify everything. Arctic Monkeys would have sold their tours now easily had they not made another album after AM without a doubt as there would be a setlist comprising better material for one. The fact they only play one song from TBH&C ever now probably shows that however much of an ego Turner has now isn't high enough not to realize it is shite. I'm actually shocked that every set of the tour bar Glastonbury they played The View From the Afternoon. I guess that shows though was it wasn't overall a great set. As Many described it, it was good when it was good, it was very forgettable for the rest as shown by the people waling away. You didn't say it was a poor selling pair of albums. You said they were poor. They're not. I think they're great and critics agree pretty universally with me. The fact that they haven't sold heavily when a huge swathe of their fanbase want Fluorescent Adolescent on loop isn't really relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieGed Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 12:10 PM, crumbler said: Music of the Spheres wasn't their best but it did contain one of their greatest ever songs in Coloratura Their best song for quite some time, probably since Up and Up for me off of AHFOD. I know they get slated on here by a good few, but they do put on a great performance, and the light show/fireworks with the wristbands works great. Do think they will do either 2024 or 2025 before the next fallow, it's just a matter of what else the festival has in mind. 2024 1975 Rihanna Dua Lipa 2025 Dave Coldplay Sam Fender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Superscally said: You didn't say it was a poor selling pair of albums. You said they were poor. They're not. I think they're great and critics agree pretty universally with me. The fact that they haven't sold heavily when a huge swathe of their fanbase want Fluorescent Adolescent on loop isn't really relevant. You mean NME who bum the Arctic Monkeys and The Guardian agree with you. Poor albums, poor selling pair of albums. What's actually the difference? If they sold really well like 400k+ I wouldn't be calling them poor would I?, I'd just be shooting myself in the arse as that is an example used against me given albums have sold then when you physically had to buy. That's just common sense. Also, after them performing that song average at best, I don't want it on loop. 1 hour ago, StevieGed said: Their best song for quite some time, probably since Up and Up for me off of AHFOD. I know they get slated on here by a good few, but they do put on a great performance, and the light show/fireworks with the wristbands works great. Do think they will do either 2024 or 2025 before the next fallow, it's just a matter of what else the festival has in mind. 2024 1975 Rihanna Dua Lipa 2025 Dave Coldplay Sam Fender Coldplay is next year or not at all. They aren't going to start touring in August 2021 and then continue past June 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby's Old Boots Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, northernangel said: You mean NME who bum the Arctic Monkeys and The Guardian agree with you. Poor albums, poor selling pair of albums. What's actually the difference? If they sold really well like 400k+ I wouldn't be calling them poor would I?, I'd just be shooting myself in the arse as that is an example used against me given albums have sold then when you physically had to buy. That's just common sense. Also, after them performing that song average at best, I don't want it on loop. Coldplay is next year or not at all. They aren't going to start touring in August 2021 and then continue past June 2025. The nme who "bum" the Arctic monkeys? And claiming that all good albums must have sold a lot? Are you 12? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Nobby's Old Boots said: The nme who "bum" the Arctic monkeys? And claiming that all good albums must have sold a lot? Are you 12? I'll change it to being obsessed so it's a more crowd up word for your ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 21 hours ago, northernangel said: Hasn't stopped Arctic Monkeys doing their biggest selling tour easily off of the back of two crazy poor outputs. They had never tried to do such a big tour before though for whatever reason, more than that they couldn't do it. in 2018 they sold out 80k at the o2 instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby's Old Boots Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, northernangel said: I'll change it to being obsessed so it's a more crowd up word for your ears. Sure. A more "crowd up" word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, gfa said: They had never tried to do such a big tour before though for whatever reason, more than that they couldn't do it. in 2018 they sold out 80k at the o2 instantly Exactly. As I said previously, they could have done this years tour in 2013 comfortably on the back of AM. One can only speculate why not earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloorFiller Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Blur have confirmed there’ll be no tour for this album, so seems unlikely they’re still gonna be around next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, FloorFiller said: Blur have confirmed there’ll be no tour for this album, so seems unlikely they’re still gonna be around next summer. :cries in american : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superscally Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 hours ago, northernangel said: You mean NME who bum the Arctic Monkeys and The Guardian agree with you. Poor albums, poor selling pair of albums. What's actually the difference? If they sold really well like 400k+ I wouldn't be calling them poor would I?, I'd just be shooting myself in the arse as that is an example used against me given albums have sold then when you physically had to buy. That's just common sense. Also, after them performing that song average at best, I don't want it on loop. I hadn't read those reviews. So no. I mean pretty much every review that wasn't written without using a Mecca dobber or a betting pencil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj6658 Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Superscally said: You didn't say it was a poor selling pair of albums. You said they were poor. They're not. I think they're great and critics agree pretty universally with me. The fact that they haven't sold heavily when a huge swathe of their fanbase want Fluorescent Adolescent on loop isn't really relevant. Think saying that their fans want Fluorescent adolescent on loop is unfair. For me, the last two albums sound like uncomfortable elevator music. Gave it a couple of listens, will never go back. Anecdotally, no one I know actually likes their last two outings. (again that's anecdotally) just shows different audiences and I think that's backed up by the sales - If they haven't sold well, it suggest it has alienated who swathes of their fanbase. Doesn't mean its bad, just means they're playing for a different audience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Trouble is, I’m always thinking it’s a terrible waste of a great drummer. I’d love to know what Matt Helders really thinks of the last two albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said: Trouble is, I’m always thinking it’s a terrible waste of a great drummer. I’d love to know what Matt Helders really thinks of the last two albums. He had a good time with The Hives last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On The Blend Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Going to take a punt: Dua Lipa: Well deserved bump-up Green Day: Meeting the grease quota Rihanna: Megastar billionaire who literally refuses to touch grass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieGed Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 14 hours ago, northernangel said: Coldplay is next year or not at all. They aren't going to start touring in August 2021 and then continue past June 2025. If there's anyone I'd back to pop up at the festival and do a one off performance, it's Coldplay. Can imagine after this tour they'll be taking a very long break, so what's more ideal for them to finish up at Glastonbury. Could also see that being 2024 tbh, but think if these dates stretch beyond June 2024 then they have to be decent contenders for 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Agreed. Doing a special for the G is totally within the realms of possibility for the 'play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesy10 Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, On The Blend said: Going to take a punt: Dua Lipa: Well deserved bump-up Green Day: Meeting the grease quota Rihanna: Megastar billionaire who literally refuses to touch grass Blows my mind how they haven't played GF. They will do, surely. Missing a serious trick if not. They put on an insanely good live show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 12 hours ago, gfa said: They had never tried to do such a big tour before though for whatever reason, more than that they couldn't do it. in 2018 they sold out 80k at the o2 instantly Well, they did 2 nights at Manchester Old Trafford cricket stadium in 2007 that sold out, so they'd clearly been big enough for years, even if I think they had a slight dip in popularity during Humbug/Suck It. But they very much could have done a full stadium tour in 2014 when AM was perhaps the biggest album of the previous 12 months, certainly at least was in a rock context. My disdain for Finsbury Park means I think I would've preferred it if they'd done a stadium over FP in 2014, but that's unrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, StevieGed said: If there's anyone I'd back to pop up at the festival and do a one off performance, it's Coldplay. Can imagine after this tour they'll be taking a very long break, so what's more ideal for them to finish up at Glastonbury. Could also see that being 2024 tbh, but think if these dates stretch beyond June 2024 then they have to be decent contenders for 2025. I agree but still the only reason after doing from Aug 21 to Jun 25 and then calling Glastonbury a one off is there is literally nowhere else to play. For me, if they don't do 24 then it'll be 27. 16 minutes ago, charlierc said: Well, they did 2 nights at Manchester Old Trafford cricket stadium in 2007 that sold out, so they'd clearly been big enough for years, even if I think they had a slight dip in popularity during Humbug/Suck It. But they very much could have done a full stadium tour in 2014 when AM was perhaps the biggest album of the previous 12 months, certainly at least was in a rock context. My disdain for Finsbury Park means I think I would've preferred it if they'd done a stadium over FP in 2014, but that's unrelated. Half the argument was can they do it down south. They could always do it in the North given where they are from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Luckily we can put to bed any debate about the Arctic Monkeys after the resounding success of the all-time classic they delivered 4 weeks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokesy10 Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Luckily we can put to bed any debate about the Arctic Monkeys after the resounding success of the all-time classic they delivered 4 weeks back. Outside of the bubble that is Glasto/eFests... I think they'll continue to be OK and enormously successful... To add - I wasn't there this year, though I've got mates who went who aren't particularly arsed about Arctics and said it was amazing, and others who historically have liked them, and walked away. Mixed bag. Edited July 19, 2023 by Stokesy10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieGed Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stokesy10 said: Outside of the bubble that is Glasto/eFests... I think they'll continue to be OK and enormously successful... To add - I wasn't there this year, though I've got mates who went who aren't particularly arsed about Arctics and said it was amazing, and others who historically have liked them, and walked away. Mixed bag. I enjoyed Arctics but having watched them back I can see how it may not have been people's cups of tea. It's not always the case for every act, but if you're performing in the dark in a headline slot, I think having a very dim stage set up doesn't help the cause for people who may want to see what they're about/giving them a go. That coupled with a lack of crowd interaction can mean it'll be very hit and miss for a lot of people. I know you're there for the music, but I do think a live set can be enhanced with some visual eye candy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfathom5 Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said: Luckily we can put to bed any debate about the Arctic Monkeys after the resounding success of the all-time classic they delivered 4 weeks back. Ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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