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Headliners 2023


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On 1/27/2023 at 8:50 PM, SighMo said:

You were actually serious weren’t you. 

I was 100% serious. It would have been another first for Glastonbury headline acts on the Pyramid Stage and a brave move. However it would seem they would rather play it safe with Guns n Roses, just another dull rock group that have been around nearly 40 years. However by what I have seen / heard of them these days, they should raise nearly as many laughs as Peter Kay.

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15 minutes ago, LoveAndTheft said:

I was 100% serious. It would have been another first for Glastonbury headline acts on the Pyramid Stage and a brave move. However it would seem they would rather play it safe with Guns n Roses, just another dull rock group that have been around nearly 40 years. However by what I have seen / heard of them these days, they should raise nearly as many laughs as Peter Kay.

totally ignoring the fact it's a music stage and people expect live music on it?

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19 hours ago, gigpusher said:

Yes my thought was always that it was a new booking after they found out U2 couldn't play. I think it probably just depends on the year whether there is a headliner sized act lying idle that weekend. If there is obviously in with a shot if not then a sub gets bumped up. 

IDLES, you say...?

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10 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:

I probably won't be at Guns n Roses but bloody hell it's starting to sound like reverse Neil Lonsdale round here. They're a popular band who have hits, it's a much less uninspired booking than something like The Who, or having Coldplay and Muse in the same year.

But they could have bumped up Wolf Alice to expand the pool of future headliners and they have a female in the band and remember what Emily said.

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11 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:

I probably won't be at Guns n Roses but bloody hell it's starting to sound like reverse Neil Lonsdale round here. They're a popular band who have hits, it's a much less uninspired booking than something like The Who, or having Coldplay and Muse in the same year.

It's uninspired because they genuinely can't play live anymore they sound awful, Axls voice went years ago. Go watch a few of their most recent shows. 

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11 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Well get ready to watch it like 20 more times as it’s posted every week from now until the festival.

Looking forward to the recurring theme in the run up to this year being ‘look how shite all our headliners are gonna sound’.

Something to look forward to then. 😂😂

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1 hour ago, Hugh Jass II said:

I thought we agreed no more Dill Danding posting??

I love Elton and can’t wait for his Glasto show but the subtitles version of this is just gold! 

 

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20 hours ago, Gnomicide said:

Do you think they say to acts "We don't want you as a headliner but here's £Xk to play a secret set. Don't take any other gigs that would pay you more. By the way, if the people we do want to headline drop out, will you do it then? Then we'll talk about paying you more."?

Maybe they do but I reckon you could be overthinking it. 

Taking your example of 2017, I guess you are saying The Killers would have stepped up if Ed dropped out? Perhaps, but what if Radiohead had dropped out? Would Elbow have got the nod?

What if it was Foos? Both The Killers and Elbow had gigs elsewhere, I don't believe there were any big names lined up for secret sets on the Saturday. 

I think much more likely that the sub each day would have been bumped up. The XX on Friday, The National on Saturday and Biffy on Sunday.

Much easier to pluck another act from the touring circuit and slot them in at the appropriate lever while everyone above them is bumped up.

I think they book more acts than they need to give them flexibility when stuff happens. For any band with any sort of production, you're not going to be able to get them to play at even a few months notice. Not unless you just so happen to drop on with a gap in the tour schedule and no-one (including essential crew) has other plans during that gap. That they pulled that off with The Libertines was a minor miracle.

The way you phrased it sounds ridiculous but the alternative is they're saying to acts "We don't want you as a headliner but here's £Xk to play a secret set. Don't take any other gigs that would pay you more."  - just without the "can we bump you up if needs be?" bit. I don't see how adding that makes it *more* ridiculous.

I genuinely don't for a minute think if Ed had dropped out, The Killers would have played John Peel that year. You can argue if they'd have rejigged it and had them sub Biffy or whatever but there's no way they're just not taking advantage of that.

But yeah, I think they have a large-ish act booked each day (or to cover multiple days if they're on site for longer anyway) that they can slot in if needed, and otherwise they do a secret set. Sometimes they are headliner level, sometimes they're not but allow for the line-up to be rejigged without obvious gaps. Sometimes acts drop out before the poster even drops, so we never know. Sometimes you end up with a big act that was missing from the first poster but we never know. So on those days, you don't see any secret sets.

I might well be wrong, but I've yet to hear any other explanation for secret sets. Because yes, what I'm saying might sound stupid, but what's also stupid is Jack White playing The Park on Sunday afternoon unannounced and George Ezra playing John Peel unannounced.

Secret sets don't make any sense anyway. And I don't think it's a coincidence that we had them, they went away for a bit, then came back shortly after 2015.

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1 minute ago, DeanoL said:

Secret sets don't make any sense anyway. And I don't think it's a coincidence that we had them, they went away for a bit, then came back shortly after 2015.

Secret sets make tons of sense for artists. It makes the appear cool and without ego for being willing to play positions that otherwise would be considered beneath them. It gets them arguably more press attention and buzz than if they played a slot that wasn't dubbed a secret set.

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