2023 line up thread

[Nick07]

1 minute ago, scatteredscreens said:

In EOTRs defence, something just feels off about next year in terms of line ups. There's no clear winners at all, they all seem to be lacking some flavour so to speak.

The only ones I've seen that I thought were good at the small genres they were going for were Wide Awake and Field Day, but they're day festivals so more easy to curate. Still even those were nothing mind blowing or stacked.

A four day festival is never going to be perfect for anyone. People will always complain about something as it’s impossible to please everyone. The headliners are different genres for starters - I don’t like Future Islands so will go elsewhere and catch something different. 

EOTR is still a small boutique festival and still attracts loads of amazing acts. The only strange thing is that there isn’t a female fronted act on Woods. 

[cdm22]

1 minute ago, paulwa said:

Heck, I might even play Kokomo to finish with.

Well that's stuck in my head now so thanks for that! 😄

[Nick07]

2 minutes ago, Enkidu said:

You lack any real point, you're just being a shill lol. How about you tell EOTR to spend more money on booking decent acts than on paying people to defend their shite lineup online? 😂

But I don’t need to do that. 

It’s the first announcement for starters and you can a good time regardless of the bands. 

Edited January 31, 2023 by Nick07

[Punksnotdead]

I'd like to point out that although I moaned about being underwhelmed, I've been to the last 15 & loved it every time! It was bound to happen one year that the lineup wasn't for me. Hopefully next year I'll be back.

[The Nal]

22 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:

In EOTRs defence, something just feels off about next year in terms of line ups. There's no clear winners at all, they all seem to be lacking some flavour so to speak.

The only ones I've seen that I thought were good at the small genres they were going for were Wide Awake and Field Day, but they're day festivals so more easy to curate. Still even those were nothing mind blowing or stacked.

There isn't one festival Ive seen thats really wowed me. Since 2019. Dunno if its a post covid bands trying to make their money back thing and just doing their own gigs.

[wolfamongwolves]

Divide and Dissolve,  Big Brave both incredible live 

Can't recommend them enough 

[scatteredscreens]

5 minutes ago, The Nal said:

There isn't one festival Ive seen thats really wowed me. Since 2019. Dunno if its a post covid bands trying to make their money back thing and just doing their own gigs.

That's a shame, both Primavera 22 and Glastonbury 22 wowed me. And to be honest, EOTR 2021 whilst viewed as weak to some I really loved, saw some stuff I'll likely never see again, like Jonny Greenwood doing scores, Damon Albarn solo, and saw loads of smaller acts I've grown to love like Anna B Savage and caroline.

Edited January 31, 2023 by scatteredscreens

[Llamasausage]

Quite into this lineup personally (I am boring, irrelevant, and male)

looks pretty standard EOTR to me, but I've only been to 3, maybe I'm not part of the family

[airwaves]

I didn't do the first two, and have only missed one since then. 

Over the years I have trusted the EOTR undercard and have seen some wonderful acts which I had never heard of before. That's why I book blind. 

But this year's "names" are just really really Meah for me. 

I, like most peeps posting here, have no idea of how much bands cost. Not do we know how much more EOTR are going to have to pay to put the festival on - generally there are stories about how inflation has pushed festival running costs up. 

But I do wonder if there is an element of "underbooking" to keep bands costs down to mitigate increased running costs and maybe even some recovery of losses due to the enforced fallow years. Pure speculation of course

[robith]

1 hour ago, Nick07 said:

Entitled idiots that should try and put on their festival. 

Ah the old "you can't critique something if you haven't done it" reply, the greatest form of whataboutery

[The Nal]

5 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:

That's a shame, both Primavera 22 and Glastonbury 22 wowed me. And to be honest, EOTR 2021 whilst viewed as weak to some I really loved, saw some stuff I'll likely never see again, like Jonny Greenwood doing scores, Damon Albarn solo, and saw loads of smaller acts I've grown to love like Anna B Savage and caroline.

Thought Glato was alright. Most of the bands I wanted to see were done by Friday afternoon. Apart from Macca obviously!

[dreams_burn_down]

I was paying attention to the lineup drop because good friends have been raving about EOTR for years. But I also managed to get Glasto tickets for the first time, so it was more out of curiosity as I can't do two big fests.

fwiw I actually think the headliners are pretty decent, and there's enough exciting stuff buried in the lower end of the poster that makes me confident I'd find lots of great new acts I'm not familiar with.

I think the middle of the lineup is the weak bit - once you look past the headliners and Angel Olsen, there's no big/medium acts I'd be looking forward to at all.

[The Nal]

14 minutes ago, wolfamongwolves said:

Divide and Dissolve,  Big Brave both incredible live 

Can't recommend them enough 

Not hungover preferably. Both will be earlyish in the Big Top.

[SweepingTheNation]

I wonder if there's a chance the Walkmen will be added but can't be named before their Koko dates sell out? They've just added a third night on the 31st, all tickets go on sale on Friday and it would be odd if while over they don't play the festival they've done before.

[thespiral]

12 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:

That's a shame, both Primavera 22 and Glastonbury 22 wowed me. And to be honest, EOTR 2021 whilst viewed as weak to some I really loved, saw some stuff I'll likely never see again, like Jonny Greenwood doing scores, Damon Albarn solo, and saw loads of smaller acts I've grown to love like Anna B Savage and caroline.

Primavera was incredible last year 🙌 Only marred by the overcrowding and general chaos - particularly Day 1 …..the bars were often in meltdown and the lack of water on site was inexcusable and frankly dangerous in the Barcelona heat.

[wolfamongwolves]

5 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Not hungover preferably. Both will be earlyish in the Big Top.

Yeah big top 

I would love to see them on the Garden stage , they make such a wonderful noise . But highly unlikely 

[thespiral]

21 minutes ago, The Nal said:

There isn't one festival Ive seen thats really wowed me. Since 2019. Dunno if its a post covid bands trying to make their money back thing and just doing their own gigs.

Isn’t the summer festival circuit considered the money earner for bands ?

[scatteredscreens]

1 minute ago, thespiral said:

Primavera was incredible last year 🙌 Only marred by the overcrowding and general chaos - particularly Day 1 …..the bars were often in meltdown and the lack of water on site was inexcusable and frankly dangerous in the Barcelona heat.

oh yeah as an actual experience it can get in the bin, hence why im not there this year or have any plans to reattend

Edited January 31, 2023 by scatteredscreens

[LowerMead]

Just now, Punksnotdead said:

I'd like to point out that although I moaned about being underwhelmed, I've been to the last 15 & loved it every time! It was bound to happen one year that the lineup wasn't for me. Hopefully next year I'll be back.

This is pretty much where I am with it.

Underwhelmed, a tad disappointed, but open to changing my mind on researching the undercard, my specific issue being that there is so much unknown to me compared to previous years, at the moment they are all just words on a page whereas in previous years I normally know at least 30% of the artists. 

Those saying that EOTR as a business should be beyond critcism should probably bear in mind that this is a discussion forum about a specific festival where people have mixed, equally valid opinions.  If people think it's a bit shit, then it's their prerogative to say that.

Equally on the two-way street of social media then if EOTR want to big this up as an amazing line-up then they've got to accept that some people will be saying to them "well you've had my money on the basis of previous great line ups but I'm actually disappointed by this one", I don't see anything wrong in doing that. Everyone's a critic, right?  

If it sells out, gets rave reviews, brilliant, they booked it well. 

If it struggles to sell out, is a bit flat and underwhelming and (perish the thought) they go bust then it'll be a harsh lesson

My feeling is that, especially with the cost of living crisis, people are picking and choosing their festivals a lot more carefully these days (very much the case amongst my crew of 30 or so EOTR go-ers), so festivals become a lot more line-up sensitive. I've been saying since last summer that I feel a big name festival will go bust this year for this exact reason, I don't think it will be EOTR but someone will make the wrong call on line up and fail.  

[jplewes]

Christ, the bickering! I'm looking forward to seeing Geese as I was going to see them in Leeds but had COVID. Like that kind of post-punk vibe and Projector had some good songs on it.

Do we think acts like Young Fathers could get added late (as they have a tour that tkts are available for, and might get announced after that)? I for one would like to see them on both!

I do think I could end up being disappointed with the lineup in comparison to GM if they get Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Walkmen, Young Fathers etc but we shall see. I committed to EOTR with the Early Bird and the last two years have been great.

[scatteredscreens]

2 minutes ago, LowerMead said:

My feeling is that, especially with the cost of living crisis, people are picking and choosing their festivals a lot more carefully these days (very much the case amongst my crew of 30 or so EOTR go-ers), so festivals become a lot more line-up sensitive. I've been saying since last summer that I feel a big name festival will go bust this year for this exact reason, I don't think it will be EOTR but someone will make the wrong call on line up and fail.  

Definitely. And to be honest, the comments about the undercard, I can see up and coming bands at smaller events that are popping up everywhere in the country for a fraction of the cost of EOTR. I know that isn't an option for everyone but it is an alternative. 

[The Nal]

4 minutes ago, LowerMead said:

my specific issue being that there is so much unknown to me compared to previous years

Thats a good thing imo. 

Loads of bands on there who formed just before and around covid who are out and about for the first time.

[homesick]

Surprised at all the negativity about Future Islands booking. Good live act who are at the height of their popularity (just had their biggest ever show at Alexandra Palace). I understand if people don’t like them but they’re not exactly under the calibre of headliner you’d expect from this festival

And they certainly won’t stink the place out like the boreathon that was Fleet Foxes last year 

[noisenoiseandmorenoise]

Moin, Mabi Fratti, Horse Lords, Divide& dissolve, Big Brave, Julia Reidy, Oren Ambarchi..

Agree with others that this has a bit of a 'alternative festival' (le guess who, supersonic, rewire..) vibe. Wonder if this is a  conscious decision or a case of 'what is available'.

Nina Nastasia in the early days would have been considered a decent sized booking. Times change I guess...

 

[Nick07]

16 minutes ago, SweepingTheNation said:

I wonder if there's a chance the Walkmen will be added but can't be named before their Koko dates sell out? They've just added a third night on the 31st, all tickets go on sale on Friday and it would be odd if while over they don't play the festival they've done before.

It seems one garden headliner short. 

Is the second wave normally bigger bands though?