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34 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

We were at the back for similar reasons and to ensure a quick getaway as well.  I think we were good where we were. I didn't need to see the whites of his eyes.

watching it back on Iplayer, looks like the 'whole' crowd were up for it anyway, looks like folks are dancing even under the flags and beyond??? 

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On 6/27/2023 at 7:43 PM, nikkic said:

The step up from here would be the O2.

He’s big, but he’s not in the same ball park as Beyoncé, Coldplay and Harry Styles. 

Nobody is saying this but he could clearly sell one of the smaller stadiums in London pretty well / out.

He isn't charging stadium prices tho of course but he's just shift 40k at ally pally and could probably do another 40k i reckon

 

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On 6/28/2023 at 11:00 AM, Acid Loafers said:

Gibson says this every time & it's simply not true.

Four Tet had a raffle for tickets at Ally Pally & pretty sure it was limited to 2x. 

Other bands have done shows where your credit card is the ticket, to avoid touts.

Fred, genuinely does as little as possible to avoid his tickets ending up in the hands of re-sellers. He's too addicted to seeing "sold out in 60s" & the amount of hype, frenzy & FOMO he builds in his community. 

I know touts will still get a hand on tickets, one way or another, but at least try to pretend you care about the people who still haven't managed to get to one of your shows.

he could just announce more shows but then he'd run out of steam

big part of his hype has been its impossible to see him, these ally pally shows will put a good dent in it though

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10 hours ago, gfa said:

Nobody is saying this but he could clearly sell one of the smaller stadiums in London pretty well / out.

He isn't charging stadium prices tho of course but he's just shift 40k at ally pally and could probably do another 40k i reckon

 

What I meant was, a promoter won’t let him go from Ally Pally to stadiums. There’s a pathway, which has The O2 in between. 

Of course he’s popular enough to do the numbers, I’m not disputing that. 

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5 hours ago, nikkic said:

What I meant was, a promoter won’t let him go from Ally Pally to stadiums. There’s a pathway, which has The O2 in between. 

Of course he’s popular enough to do the numbers, I’m not disputing that. 

If they think he can sell them then they will put him there - the stadiums are all ran by AEG / LN anyway ??

Plenty of acts skip the O2 nowadays, Sam Fender for instance (and so they should, its an appalling venue!)

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32 minutes ago, El Matador said:

Loved his set but not a fan of this sort of commercialism off the back of it 

Things like this are as old as time - Foos did it too this year and possibly Elton as well?

Its just a football shirt with some small glasto badges on, most people will just throw those in the bin anyway

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5 hours ago, gfa said:

Things like this are as old as time - Foos did it too this year and possibly Elton as well?

Its just a football shirt with some small glasto badges on, most people will just throw those in the bin anyway

Were they not ultra limited edition, sold out within minutes, cost £80 and don’t even ship until September, as of that sale there were only a handful in existence that his crew and a couple of fans had, what bit will people be throwing in the bin? 

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6 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

Were they not ultra limited edition, sold out within minutes, cost £80 and don’t even ship until September, as of that sale there were only a handful in existence that his crew and a couple of fans had, what bit will people be throwing in the bin? 

They're pre order, as in they don't exist yet... Which kind of leans into somebody's point here about using manufactured scarcity to make something more popular... Great marketing.

I mean, how can they be sold out, if they're pre order? The only way is if they're a very limited run...

Why a very limited run if they're not even beginning to be shipped until Sept? To keep that 'scarcity' train running... 

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4 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

They're pre order, as in they don't exist yet... Which kind of leans into somebody's point here about using manufactured scarcity to make something more popular... Great marketing.

I mean, how can they be sold out, if they're pre order? The only way is if they're a very limited run...

Why a very limited run if they're not even beginning to be shipped until Sept? To keep that 'scarcity' train running... 

Yeah I get all that, my point was nobody will be throwing anything off them in the bin:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=fred+again+football&_trksid=p4432023.m4084.l1313

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22 minutes ago, Jose Pose said:

Yeah I get all that, my point was nobody will be throwing anything off them in the bin:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=fred+again+football&_trksid=p4432023.m4084.l1313

Yeh I know... I'm agreeing with you lol... 

As in pointing out that these are definitely not the ones the crew and family wore, that would otherwise end up in the bin. They are a limited run of the same design that do not begin shipping until Sept.

My little rant was just my annoyance at the fact that rather than give everybody that was there a chance to own one, they've chosen 'marketing' over looking after their fans and restricted the numbers to keep the hype train rolling... 

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7 hours ago, El Matador said:

Loved his set but not a fan of this sort of commercialism off the back of it 

So then he shouldnt have announced gigs after the festival. Same for Astley and a few others.

 

Foos made special Churnups shirts for their set. Are you against that too? 
 

are artists not allowed to earn a living? They have to conform to your version of capitalism?

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22 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

Yeh I know... I'm agreeing with you lol... 

As in pointing out that these are definitely not the ones the crew and family wore, that would otherwise end up in the bin. They are a limited run of the same design that do not begin shipping until Sept.

My little rant was just my annoyance at the fact that rather than give everybody that was there a chance to own one, they've chosen 'marketing' over looking after their fans and restricted the numbers to keep the hype train rolling... 

youve never heard of Supreme have you.

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7 minutes ago, Suprefan said:

youve never heard of Supreme have you.

Didn't know they use this type of marketing... Never had the slightest interest in their products...

So you're telling me that they only do limited releases and their clothes are hard to get?

Wow, in that case, I guess I need a supreme collection **Goes off to buy**

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5 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

Didn't know they use this type of marketing... Never had the slightest interest in their products...

So you're telling me that they only do limited releases and their clothes are hard to get?

Wow, in that case, I guess I need a supreme collection **Goes off to buy**

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They sold a branded brick for $30 that sold out in minutes and then was selling for thousands on the resale market. People are idiots when it comes to this kind of stuff, but in terms of marketing, it works.

 

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