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Just wondering as we get closer to the major band announcements: How do people usually guess who might be appearing at Glasto? Are there general rules for taking acts out the running? Things that make acts more likely? Etc.

For instance, there's a bunch of bands I like touring the UK in April/May (Alvvays, Yard Act, Death Cab), and I'm trying to justify not buying as many gig tickets now I'm going to Glasto, but does touring the UK in Spring make a band more or less likely to play?

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2 minutes ago, churlie100 said:

Just wondering as we get closer to the major band announcements: How do people usually guess who might be appearing at Glasto? Are there general rules for taking acts out the running? Things that make acts more likely? Etc.

For instance, there's a bunch of bands I like touring the UK in April/May (Alvvays, Yard Act, Death Cab), and I'm trying to justify not buying as many gig tickets now I'm going to Glasto, but does touring the UK in Spring make a band more or less likely to play?

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

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I think the other two have more chance of playing than Death Cab, who haven’t been announced for any European festivals yet. They’ll also play for near enough two hours whereas a festival set would be an hour at best and this tour is pretty reasonably priced, so I’d recommend just getting tickets if you’re keen.

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1 hour ago, gfa said:

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

What a thorough response, thanks so much for your help! Death Cab is bought, will keep an eye on the lineup and my fingers crossed for the other two!

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1 hour ago, gfa said:

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

Yard Act will be there 100%

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1 hour ago, gfa said:

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

Nothing to add but that's a fucking amazing reply @gfa!

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Main things I look at

Time since they last played

New material out or coming out

Dates around glastonbury (helps)

Another one I think is a pretty indicative one is if they are doing festivals around glastonbury and don’t have a UK festival announced yet…

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1 hour ago, churlie100 said:

What a thorough response, thanks so much for your help! Death Cab is bought, will keep an eye on the lineup and my fingers crossed for the other two!

 

1 hour ago, SheffJeff said:

Nothing to add but that's a fucking amazing reply @gfa!

Glad to hear it came in useful 🙂 

Great question to ask i must say, people chuck around all kinds of names everyday. That final one Matt said is a key one, especially once it gets a bit later on (once wireless, parklife, APE, superstruct fests have all announced). Any hot new acts that don't have a date once they all announce are likely only doing glasto.

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Its also worth chucking in the pot that

A) glasto sets are usually 30 to 60 mins, so if you want a new album plus extras then go see them in their own show. Glasto sets tend to be greatest hits sets

B) you might find your band is in a clash /other side of the site /you're distracted elsewhere so if seeing them this year is non-negotiable then book own gig 

For me, for smaller bands a glasto appearance is a bonus, especially if they are likely to be turning up everywhere this year. 

 

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16 hours ago, gfa said:

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

Also don't forget that across the 5 main stages, Glastonbury aim for a roughly 50/50 gender split.  Given that the pool they are fishing in on the "female" side of that split is smaller, I'd say that makes Alvvays quite a bit more likely to play.  And, given their other dates plus @gfa's other comments - I'd be really surprised if they weren't there.

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Another thing to consider is if the tickets are cheap enough and it’s easy to get to could you potentially reduce your number of clashes come festival time. 
 

Anyone you really love it’s great to see their own show with their own hopefully more dedicated fan base. 

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On 1/15/2023 at 6:35 PM, gfa said:

There's a few ways - i'll work with the names you have given.

Alvvays (https://alvvays.com/) are doing Primavera (early june) and some other fests but nothing post glasto. They will probably be about though, would be weird for them to just stop at the start of festival season. They last played glasto in 2015 so thats a good length gap and their new album just came out. Look like a safe bet to me

Yard Act (https://www.yardactors.com/) did Glasto this year but are on the rise and they did William's Green thursday instead of a main stage. They have a show a few days after in France so are definitely about and have a few other shows in the UK. Take that as you will, i think most people here would say they are quite a pushed act at the moment in the music industry so likely to be back

Death cab (https://www.deathcabforcutie.com/#tour-block) look to be in the US at summer, their uk shows are quite a bit earlier than the other two act's so if your going to buy 1/3, i'd argue death cab is best to go for now. They also haven't played by 2015 but the US dates just before glasto make it seem unlikely

Re tickets - worth considering where they are playing. e.g. yard act are at brixton in may which is likely quite big for them i'd think and won't sell out, so you could hold off till the first poster probably. Alvvays shows are in late May so long after the poster and even will have some area announcements too + neither show in London is sold out right now so probably safe to wait.

hope the way i've explained my logic process has helped - if you have any questions just ask 🙂 i'm sure some people have other methods. key things i guess are:

1. time since last played

2. new album release

3. tour pattern

4. other festival slots for larger acts (e.g. glasto and reading tend not to share headliners)

Didn't Yard Act headline Left Field last year?

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Did they do the Glastonbury Extravaganza the year before?

Did they do the Pilton Party the year before?

Did they do a (so called) secret set somewhere the year before?

Did they do a guest appearance with someone big the year before?

Nominated for a Brit this year?

Are they friends with Chris Martin or six levels of Kevin Bacon away from EE?

Are they an ex member of the band Squeeze?

Are they the usual suspects of Beans On Toast, Mik Artistik, Billy Bragg, Norman Cook, New York Brass Band, etc. ? (I wish Steve Hillage was on this list! Almost but not quite).

Circus and Theatre Field regulars?

Loads more I'm sure. Great thread @churlie100

 

 

 

 

 

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It’s funny how the shorthand and logic on here just becomes a sense after a few months. Then spills into your actual life.

I’ve been lurking here almost daily for over 7 years. Now I can’t hear a prediction from a friend in real life without saying something like ‘well that act is in Europe over that weekend with their only free day being Saturday but they don’t play two days in a row so it’s unlikely.’ And watching them get bored of me before I even finish the sentence.

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I had an absolute nightmare of a clash on the Sunday between Lorde and Orla Gartland - was so very thankful I'd seen Lorde on her own tour that year, because it meant the choice was a little less brutal. I'd honestly really recommend seeing artists that would be unmissable to you on their own tour tbh.

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