Hugh Jass II Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: Involvement in the Qatar World Cup aside (if we held firm to those principals, we'd have half a festival with hardly any punters), Arcadia definitely needs a retool. I think I'd prefer a hanger-style area dedicated to electronica over the same fire and lightning from the spider, crane or helicopter. Are you advocating for Chesney Hawkes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Jose Pose said: Let’s hope so, but didn’t we lose the Blues last year? Which was the best part of SH anyway, so what with their new stage, net/net we’re still no further forward in making it an area with a bit more character. Blues and gully went I think … issues with getting workforce and scaffolders to do the safety checks … and probably budgets too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gfa said: I think they do own them, they have this cool one but not sure they'd want to bring too much as it would almost be like setting up a mini LSTD inside glasto and could hurt their own sales etc Yeah that’s the one I was thinking off 🙂 could do it … see arcadia / valley fest Edited February 2, 2023 by Crazyfool01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jose Pose said: Let’s hope so, but didn’t we lose the Blues last year? Which was the best part of SH anyway Agree, The Blues was superb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said: It also gives marginalised groups a safe space for free expression and creativity. It's not for everyone because it wasn't designed for everyone in mind. It's a Glastonbury staple, as important as anywhere on site, if the ethos of the festival is as true as is suggested. 30 minutes ago, ProperTea said: Let's get some more queer spaces and leave NYC for the tourists. NYC Downlow is a very specific part of gay culture, and IMO is getting more and more dated. There's so much more that doesn't really get a look in- especially when you consider what's happening elsewhere in the country with queer house and techno. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BambooShanks Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Losing The Blues aside, the revamp for SH was an improvement. I would imagine it'll be an ongoing evolution so am quite excited to see that develop. Arcadia definitely could do with a revamp, it's gutting that they weren't able to keep the crane so that will have completely scuppered their plans. One can only hope that the blood money they made off going to Qatar will fund an exciting project for this years festival. As much as I like the Spider, another year of it would be a little disappointing. It'd be nice if most of the SEC gets a bit of an overhaul. I'd imagine bloc9 will have a refresh after genosys rotting away and iicon being more established so I'd hope they'll have a bit of money/time to spend on that. It's a shame that shangri la has become a victim of it's own success. I loved the microvenues and installations they used to have but it just isn't safe to do so with how popular it is. But as much as I moan, I can't wait to be back there and will have a great time regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, gfa said: SH - build a hanger or lets see what team love do, hopefully can get some big acts there to draw people over from the SE corner, it certainly has the space to get some decent crowds late night. Really liked the wow tent 🙂 22 minutes ago, Alex DeLarge said: Gotta be honest, I was always amazed at Arcadia on TV, and I just remember it feeling like a let down when I actually got there. There's a distinct lack of atmosphere. Get the Hanger up that parklife had a few years ago. I think creamfields use it now as the steelyard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Oh I've just remembered -isnt arcadia getting a helicopter this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BambooShanks Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, Leyrulion said: Oh I've just remembered -isnt arcadia getting a helicopter this year? They posted that they bought a chopper in September but there's been nothing that I could see post that confirming what they are doing with it. I'm assuming that following losing the crane and the money gained from qatar, that they'll be doing something with it but in efests tradition, that's just speculation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, BambooShanks said: It's a shame that shangri la has become a victim of it's own success. I loved the microvenues and installations they used to have but it just isn't safe to do so with how popular it is. This, and the media hype. Far too many go there just to look at "the naughty corner", which in reality isn't that naughty at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, Hugh Jass II said: Are you advocating for Chesney Hawkes? Not after he played Putin's birthday party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernintendo Chalmers Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ProperTea said: Let's get some more queer spaces and leave NYC for the tourists. Hard agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olshansky Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 I agree with what a lot of you have said. Silver Hayes is the first that comes to mind. As others have said, occupies a lot of space, and I think should be a counterbalance to the SE Corner, but doesn't draw the numbers. It needs more atmosphere. With Blues gone, it feels like the least creative looking space of the whole festival. As much as I love Block9, it IS just a queue for the NYC Downlow these days. Could definitely use a shakeup. I miss the tunnels at Shangri La, and the micro venues. Maybe its a safety issue (the mud made the tunnels really difficult to walk through in 2011) but it's not a place where you can get lost anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Olshansky said: I agree with what a lot of you have said. Silver Hayes is the first that comes to mind. As others have said, occupies a lot of space, and I think should be a counterbalance to the SE Corner, but doesn't draw the numbers. It needs more atmosphere. With Blues gone, it feels like the least creative looking space of the whole festival. As much as I love Block9, it IS just a queue for the NYC Downlow these days. Could definitely use a shakeup. I miss the tunnels at Shangri La, and the micro venues. Maybe its a safety issue (the mud made the tunnels really difficult to walk through in 2011) but it's not a place where you can get lost anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Making SH focused on small micro areas (which rely less on the terrain) could work, then focus on bigger stages in the SE corner maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, gfa said: Exactly! As shake ups go, it’s pretty big! RIP London Underground 💙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gfa said: Making SH focused on small micro areas (which rely less on the terrain) could work, then focus on bigger stages in the SE corner maybe? Not a bad idea, as long as somehow it's hyped massively, make it sound like it's the new Shangri La with the added bonus of no one-way system, easily accessible from The Pyramid and The Other Stage etc Edited February 2, 2023 by Skip997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olshansky Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, gfa said: I like IICON, but it's apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy-wam-wam-wozzle Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Olshansky said: I miss the tunnels at Shangri La, and the micro venues. Maybe its a safety issue (the mud made the tunnels really difficult to walk through in 2011) but it's not a place where you can get lost anymore. 2011 was soooo slippy in there. I have a very vivid memory of stacking it, needing the help of a steward to stand up and then instantly slipping over again… this time instead of trying to stand up I thought the obvious thing to do was phone my mates to see where they were, turned out they were about 2m away and had been watching the whole thing laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfa Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Olshansky said: I like IICON, but it's apples and oranges. They only have limited budget, once Genosys is sorted this year it will be back in a good condition. Theres about 3 other dance areas alone that could do with the money far more than Block9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justcalledtosay Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, DareToDibble said: I have to say I thought it was better last year. Essentially it’ll always be playing that type of music but the layout definitely felt a bit better. For me it just felt sparse and lacking in atmosphere/presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyrulion Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, gfa said: Making SH focused on small micro areas (which rely less on the terrain) could work, then focus on bigger stages in the SE corner maybe? I think Glastonbury is just too big for microvenues like that now. Even the small ish ones in the park had queues outside of them. The stewarding operation required would be significant. Edit- this is super sad btw, because the Boomtown microvenues were incredible. Edited February 2, 2023 by Leyrulion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshuwarr Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Another vote for Silver Hayes. Its the one part of the festival that, at times, lacks the Glastonbury atmosphere for me. A shame as a dedicated dance area should thrive really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdusty surfer Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) I'd like Lost Vagueness to get a bit of space again. It did need a reboot in its last couple of years but I'm sure that a return would be spectacular. Edited February 2, 2023 by Sawdusty surfer Grammar self-policing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sawdusty surfer said: I'd like Lost Vagueness to get a bit of space again. It did need a reboot in it's last couple of years but I'm sure that a return would be spectacular. I could handle a bit of that We need a bit of proper old school twistedness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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