5-HTP Yes or No?

[TorontoScot]

Yeah man, it helps, but not sure for just a one off or every now and then. Used to take it every Sunday-Wednesday after going all night/day Saturdays. 
Definitely helped make blue Mondays and suicide Tuesdays easier lol! 
In my 40’s now, and the couple of times a year I indulge, recuperation involves sleep, tons of fruits/veg and not having to play with the kids for a day 😝.

[Johnnyseven]

Never taken it in preperation for a festival, I think I have taken a tab the morning after during a festival in the past with no issues but wouldn't do it now due to being educated to the potential risk of seratonin syndrome. I'd wait until Tuesday if I felt I needed it for recovery. Just be sensible with other stuff you're taking if you want to last the weekend, you don't need 100s of mg - get yourself some scales.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Johnnyseven

[TorontoScot]

2 hours ago, TorontoScot said:

Yeah man, it helps, but not sure for just a one off or every now and then. Used to take it every Sunday-Wednesday after going all night/day Saturdays. 
Definitely helped make blue Mondays and suicide Tuesdays easier lol! 
In my 40’s now, and the couple of times a year I indulge, recuperation involves sleep, tons of fruits/veg and not having to play with the kids for a day 😝.

Should also say if you are on any SSRI or SNRI Meds (usually antidepressants) then neither 5HTP or madman is no good for you. 

[kalifire]

No need to, so no.

[Charliehmiller]

This thread has got me thinking though, does anybody have any remedies to minimise the hangovers/tiredness. 

Someone's mentioned vitamin b complex to me recently and going to give it a go this year, normally take 2 milk thistle and electrolyte tablet a day during the festival and mostly works but the tiredness catchs up. Any other remedies people swear by. 

[Walter Sobchak]

28 minutes ago, Charliehmiller said:

This thread has got me thinking though, does anybody have any remedies to minimise the hangovers/tiredness. 

Someone's mentioned vitamin b complex to me recently and going to give it a go this year, normally take 2 milk thistle and electrolyte tablet a day during the festival and mostly works but the tiredness catchs up. Any other remedies people swear by. 

Get as fit as possible cardio wise before going! 

[gazzared]

9 hours ago, Franky said:

Yeah man it’s a very good stance to have. 
 

Question? Do you drink alcohol? Does it give you hangovers? Not judging just tying to bring some perspective and as I mentioned earlier, horses for courses. 
 

Different substances effect different people people in different ways. 
 

it’s pretty much that simple. The more info out there though the greater chance of people staying safe. 
 

Peace out and one love to all. 

Yeah I do drink and probably too much, I've been having a few spells where I don't drink for 6/7 weeks . Beer doesn't give me hangovers I just feel tired and want to sleep before I can over do it🤣

Shame they can't make the happy tabs legal because you only have to look at the warning possible side effects on the paracetamol or ibuprofen labels and you'd think twice about taking them.

Ibuprofen side effects list🤣 some of the more serious side effects have odds of 1 in 10000 and include bleeding, bruising, irregular heartbeat, stomach ulcers,liver problems,blood disorders etcetc which I think is a bit scary really 

[morph100]

Berroca and bacon cures all

[Franky]

1 hour ago, gazzared said:

Yeah I do drink and probably too much, I've been having a few spells where I don't drink for 6/7 weeks . Beer doesn't give me hangovers I just feel tired and want to sleep before I can over do it🤣

Shame they can't make the happy tabs legal because you only have to look at the warning possible side effects on the paracetamol or ibuprofen labels and you'd think twice about taking them.

Ibuprofen side effects list🤣 some of the more serious side effects have odds of 1 in 10000 and include bleeding, bruising, irregular heartbeat, stomach ulcers,liver problems,blood disorders etcetc which I think is a bit scary really 

Run out of upvotes 😂

[Johnnyseven]

3 hours ago, Charliehmiller said:

This thread has got me thinking though, does anybody have any remedies to minimise the hangovers/tiredness. 

Someone's mentioned vitamin b complex to me recently and going to give it a go this year, normally take 2 milk thistle and electrolyte tablet a day during the festival and mostly works but the tiredness catchs up. Any other remedies people swear by. 

Blackout tent, camp bed, ear plugs, SIS Hydro tabs and not too much booze works for me.

[LeeHC]

As others have said it risks serotonin syndrome so no..

Magnesium though, reduces bruxism.

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 hours ago, morph100 said:

Berroca and bacon cures all

It really doesn't.

Electrolytes, however, do.

[chestwig]

Are you are planning to do this to build higher levels of serotonin, before taking other goodies at the festival for an enhanced experience?

You should be warned that this can be severely dangerous and can result in Nerotoxicity which is potentially fatal.

 

It only makes safe responsible sense to do this after the festivals and aforementioned goodies. 

[Franky]

1 hour ago, chestwig said:

Are you are planning to do this to build higher levels of serotonin, before taking other goodies at the festival for an enhanced experience?

You should be warned that this can be severely dangerous and can result in Nerotoxicity which is potentially fatal.

 

It only makes safe responsible sense to do this after the festivals and aforementioned goodies. 

Well this is what the thread is about tbh. To engage and find out some facts. I certainly did in 2017 and carried on taking it during the festival. 
 

However, having read some comments on here and done some research I can now see that was possibly not the best idea (although it seemed to work). 
 

I can now say I will NOT be partaking of 5-HTP during the festival. Will stop taking the Monday before (48 hours) and then will resume when I come back. 

[morph100]

4 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

It really doesn't.

Electrolytes, however, do.

What does that do over a pint of vitamins water, salty bacon and carbohydrates?

[CaledonianGonzo]

You can take electrolytes four or five times a day. I suppose you can also do that with bacon but it feels a bit

to be munching on a few rashers before you go to sleep.

[gfa]

thought 5-htp was a placebo/useless.

so hard to know with these kinds of things theres so many fake ones on amazon etc

is it actually worth bothering with?

[Olshansky]

5HTP and I did not have a good reaction when I tried taking it.  It was recommended to me in lieu of starting an antidepressant years ago, and it made me feel absolutely bonkers.  I almost never have side effects from things, but 5HTP gave me severe headaches, nausea and dizziness on less than a week taking it.  

As for hangover cures - the shitty feeling of a hangover is largely caused by dehydration and and a need to replenish vitamins. Making sure that you replenish electrolytes and takes some vitamins will generally get you to a better place.  Magnesium (NOT magnesium oxide, thats the one that gives you diarrhea, -  magnesium glycinate is good) B complex and Zinc.  

[anditmakesmesmile]

You shouldn’t have it with. Ever. Have it after. It’s really there to avoid the lousy Wednesday/Thursday feeling. Rather than the lousy morning after. 

[MJP]

Only after the partying stops on Sunday night. Magnesium and electrolytes throughout.

[PassingCloud]

5 hours ago, gfa said:

thought 5-htp was a placebo/useless.

so hard to know with these kinds of things theres so many fake ones on amazon etc

is it actually worth bothering with?

Increases production of serotonin. 5-HT is serotonin. You should be careful when using with serotnergic drugs because they may cause serotonin syndrome which is very serious!  Probably fine to use a day or two after you’ve binged. 

[PassingCloud]

5 hours ago, Olshansky said:

5HTP and I did not have a good reaction when I tried taking it.  It was recommended to me in lieu of starting an antidepressant years ago, and it made me feel absolutely bonkers.  I almost never have side effects from things, but 5HTP gave me severe headaches, nausea and dizziness on less than a week taking it.  

As for hangover cures - the shitty feeling of a hangover is largely caused by dehydration and and a need to replenish vitamins. Making sure that you replenish electrolytes and takes some vitamins will generally get you to a better place.  Magnesium (NOT magnesium oxide, thats the one that gives you diarrhea, -  magnesium glycinate is good) B complex and Zinc.  

Did this yesterday/ today. ORS hydration before going out all day drinking yesterday, one before bed, one when waking and a high strength vit c/zinc drink. Drank a lot yesterday. No hangover! 🙂

Edited May 21, 2023 by PassingCloud

[Franky]

10 hours ago, chestwig said:

Are you are planning to do this to build higher levels of serotonin, before taking other goodies at the festival for an enhanced experience?

You should be warned that this can be severely dangerous and can result in Nerotoxicity which is potentially fatal.

 

It only makes safe responsible sense to do this after the festivals and aforementioned goodies. 

Well this is what the thread is about tbh. To engage and find out some facts. I certainly did in 2017 and carried on taking it during the festival. 
 

However, having read some comments on here and done some research I can now see that was possibly not the best idea (although it seemed to work). 
 

I can now say I will NOT be partaking of 5-HTP during the festival. Will stop taking the Monday before (48 hours) and then will resume when I come back. 

Edited May 21, 2023 by Franky
No idea how I posted this comment again

[Franky]

A very enlightening thread. 
 

Thanks for all the replies and comments. Hopefully it will have served to educate a few. I know it has me 👍

 

Stay safe and enjoy the festival people. 

[Havors]

10 hours ago, chestwig said:

Are you are planning to do this to build higher levels of serotonin, before taking other goodies at the festival for an enhanced experience?

You should be warned that this can be severely dangerous and can result in Nerotoxicity which is potentially fatal.

 

It only makes safe responsible sense to do this after the festivals and aforementioned goodies. 

It's used to replenish the serotonin you have well and truly used up the night before... and thus not have to take twice as much drugs the following night chasing the high. 

It's effects are quite minimal and anecdotal on increasing serotonin. It's effects are subjective.