Primavera Sound 2024

[gfa]

9 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Pulp have been excellent on this tour. Still good but obviously is less exciting to get them in Year 2 of a reunion...

The international option was clearly not there - better than not getting them at all right

[scatteredscreens]

58 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Pulp have been excellent on this tour. Still good but obviously is less exciting to get them in Year 2 of a reunion...

like gfa said, doesn't really matter when you're pelting out the lyrics at PS24 when they're booked (please)

[xxialac]

1 hour ago, gfa said:

The international option was clearly not there - better than not getting them at all right

Not saying there was anything they could have done or blaming them. But it's always been my experience that reunion tours considerably lose their initial excitement with the passing of time.

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43 minutes ago, xxialac said:

Not saying there was anything they could have done or blaming them. But it's always been my experience that reunion tours considerably lose their initial excitement with the passing of time.

I don't think plenty of international fans will care that there were shows in the UK beforehand. There's also scope for a slightly different setlist for upcoming dates. I was at the Sheffield gig and I'd happily see them again at Primavera and hope they're booked.

[albidc]

On 7/30/2023 at 12:46 PM, albidc said:

A bit off-topic but we might have a PS 2024 in Turin, Italy..

https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2023/07/30/news/a_torino_fa_primavera_accordo_vicino_per_la_tappa_italiana_del_super_festival-409459577/

Update: They're having conversations about it but right now not a done deal.

 https://francescoprisco.blog.ilsole24ore.com/2023/07/31/primavera-sound-a-torino-lorganizzazione-conferma-le-trattative-ma-e-presto-per-parlare-di-date-aperti-anche-ad-altre-opzioni/

[Johndenis]

Did Calvin harris get a crowd, in the end? Was it a bomb? Was Gabi ever questioned, or did he offer an explanation, for such an odd booking? Speculatively trying pull in some of the F1 crowd seems a very unlikely motivation. You're not going to torpedo your carefully curated line up for some petrol heads. Maybe Gabi wasn't given by a choice by his investors...

[xxialac]

16 minutes ago, Johndenis said:

Did Calvin harris get a crowd, in the end? Was it a bomb? Was Gabi ever questioned, or did he offer an explanation, for such an odd booking? Speculatively trying pull in some of the F1 crowd seems a very unlikely motivation. You're not going to torpedo your carefully curated line up for some petrol heads. Maybe Gabi wasn't given by a choice by his investors...

No private equity firm is going to be micromanaging to the extent of dictating a specific booking.

[bobhoward]

Pulp band members confirmed more shows next year to people queuing before their London gig. More hopeful news pointing to a potential PS booking. 

[UsernameHere]

2 hours ago, Johndenis said:

Did Calvin harris get a crowd, in the end? Was it a bomb? Was Gabi ever questioned, or did he offer an explanation, for such an odd booking? Speculatively trying pull in some of the F1 crowd seems a very unlikely motivation. You're not going to torpedo your carefully curated line up for some petrol heads. Maybe Gabi wasn't given by a choice by his investors...

He drew a pretty big crowd in the end actually. 

[brosch]

37 minutes ago, UsernameHere said:

He drew a pretty big crowd in the end actually. 

There was not much of an alternative playing though, and Rosalía up next.

[Johndenis]

2 hours ago, xxialac said:

No private equity firm is going to be micromanaging to the extent of dictating a specific booking.

I'm sure there is now a general expectation that Saturday will be more "pop/chart". At my first primavera in 2021, the main stage Saturday act around 1am was Animal Collective conducting what sounded like a very long sound check. Unthinkable now. 

Edited July 31, 2023 by Johndenis

[xxialac]

1 hour ago, Johndenis said:

I'm sure there is now a general expectation that Saturday will be more "pop/chart". At my first primavera in 2021, the main stage Saturday act around 1am was Animal Collective conducting what sounded like a very long sound check. Unthinkable now. 

Yet Glastonbury used to be like that too and now has very safe MOR headliners to reflect yet this it to reflect what the audience wants/the much bigger crowds, not because they aren’t allowed to have more interesting indie stuff.

[UsernameHere]

2 hours ago, brosch said:

There was not much of an alternative playing though, and Rosalía up next.

Yeah the programming on Saturday was crazy. They really should've put Death Grips on during Calvin Harris instead of clashing them with Rosalia.

[pipan]

12 hours ago, UsernameHere said:

He drew a pretty big crowd in the end actually. 

I stayed for him too (after Caroline Polachek) but it was more about not feeling like moving to the opposite site of the festival to see Maneskin than wanting to see Calvin Harris.

But what really annoyed me on Saturday was the last-minute reschedule of Two Shell to a later slot so that there were (almost) no clashes with Rosalia and everyone could enjoy her, even people who hadn't planned to. So, in the end, we left after few of her songs since we really didn't feel like waiting another 90 minutes or so to see Two Shell.

[Johndenis]

18 hours ago, xxialac said:

Yet Glastonbury used to be like that too and now has very safe MOR headliners to reflect yet this it to reflect what the audience wants/the much bigger crowds, not because they aren’t allowed to have more interesting indie stuff.

Glastonbury don't have investors to answer to.  I'd argue their headliners have always been surprisingly MOR (more recent headlines like Jay-Z, Kanye, Stormzy have skewed the perception).  But they have several other stages (Other, Park, West Holts) which have simultaneous headline acts which any other festival would have as outright headliners.  Just for example, on the Saturday night of 2019 I didn't go to see the Killers but saw half an hour each of the Wu Tang Clan, Chemical Bros and Hot Chip instead.  Programming Calvin Harris vs no other act of note is quite a statement. 

The Killers appearing on any Primavera bill is also IMO an eyebrow raiser and an indication of the direction of travel.

[xxialac]

4 minutes ago, Johndenis said:

Glastonbury don't have investors to answer to.  I'd argue their headliners have always been surprisingly MOR (more recent headlines like Jay-Z, Kanye, Stormzy have skewed the perception).  But they have several other stages (Other, Park, West Holts) which have simultaneous headline acts which any other festival would have as outright headliners.  Just for example, on the Saturday night of 2019 I didn't go to see the Killers but saw half an hour each of the Wu Tang Clan, Chemical Bros and Hot Chip instead.  Programming Calvin Harris vs no other act of note is quite a statement. 

The Killers appearing on any Primavera bill is also IMO an eyebrow raiser and an indication of the direction of travel.

That was exactly my point. 

The argument was that the reason Primavera was booking Calvin Harris was that they now have investors to answer to.

However, whilst Glastonbury is in the luxury position of not having investors to answer to, they still make dull MOR bookings.

[bobhoward]

I’d personally be happy to see the Killers at PS. Their newest album Pressure Machine is very Springsteen-esque and their newest single ‘Boy’ has a ton of New Order and PSB influence

I really don’t see how they’re an eyebrow raising booking when the likes of AM, Gorillaz, Blur, are all on brand 

[matrainertje]

17 minutes ago, bobhoward said:

I’d personally be happy to see the Killers at PS. Their newest album Pressure Machine is very Springsteen-esque and their newest single ‘Boy’ has a ton of New Order and PSB influence

I really don’t see how they’re an eyebrow raising booking when the likes of AM, Gorillaz, Blur, are all on brand 

Those bands are much more on brand with Primavera than The Killers, c'mon. Might as well book Imagine Dragons then. 

[UsernameHere]

50 minutes ago, bobhoward said:

I’d personally be happy to see the Killers at PS. Their newest album Pressure Machine is very Springsteen-esque and their newest single ‘Boy’ has a ton of New Order and PSB influence

I really don’t see how they’re an eyebrow raising booking when the likes of AM, Gorillaz, Blur, are all on brand 

I don't think many people would consider The Killers as similar to the three you listed. Personally I see them as more in the Kings of Leon or Coldplay branch of pop rock which are typically booked by the likes of FIB or Mad Cool but usually not Primavera.

[bobhoward]

35 minutes ago, UsernameHere said:

I don't think many people would consider The Killers as similar to the three you listed. Personally I see them as more in the Kings of Leon or Coldplay branch of pop rock which are typically booked by the likes of FIB or Mad Cool but usually not Primavera.

I see them all as pop rock acts, who built their legacy on early pop records which all had top 40 hits, but have since grown into making more mature work, influenced by more alternative artists of the past. 

I just don't see the Killers as another Imagine Dragons, Kings of Leon, type band. Would I rather Primavera book Sonic Youth or Nick Cave? Absolutely! But if they're going to give us their usual great lineup of alternative acts, rounded out with some more pop friendly headliners, they could do much worse than the Killers, IMO. (Better than Tame Impala being booked for the last 3/4 editions)

[pipan]

I remember the reactions after Arctic Monkeys were announced in 2018 (they aren't the right fit for Primavera, what terrible crowds will they bring...) and here we are in 2023 considering Arctic Monkeys a perfect fit for Primavera.

I think this might be the case also for The Killers. I can't see how are they a worse fit than (pre-Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino) Arctic Monkeys.

Edited August 1, 2023 by pipan

[xxialac]

I don't want either Arctic Monkeys or The Killers at Primavera : )

(although part of me doesn't give a sh*t as it just means one less trip to Mordor).

[Fnmentaluk]

Do we know how much tickets will be after lineup announcement. 

Just wondered with my 30% off from Madrid will it work out cheaper than the  early bird on sale now without a code 

[davidoffescassi]

On 7/31/2023 at 7:36 PM, brosch said:

There was not much of an alternative playing though, and Rosalía up next.

Maneskin? 

[UsernameHere]

5 hours ago, bobhoward said:

I see them all as pop rock acts, who built their legacy on early pop records which all had top 40 hits, but have since grown into making more mature work, influenced by more alternative artists of the past. 

I just don't see the Killers as another Imagine Dragons, Kings of Leon, type band. Would I rather Primavera book Sonic Youth or Nick Cave? Absolutely! But if they're going to give us their usual great lineup of alternative acts, rounded out with some more pop friendly headliners, they could do much worse than the Killers, IMO. (Better than Tame Impala being booked for the last 3/4 editions)

We'll have to agree to disagree but it's all personal taste tbf! If they're booked I won't care in the end as long as they also book enough of my type of acts which I expect them to continue to do.