Primavera Sound 2024

[xxialac]

3 minutes ago, Fnmentaluk said:

What about Madonna, sold out 2 nights at Saint Jordi , highly rumoured for Glastonbury next year, 

 

Way too expensive presumably. Glastonbury doesn't need to pay market rates as for charity and offers incredible profile/prestige..

[Fabrizzo]

On 8/17/2023 at 11:12 PM, UsernameHere said:

Not a chance, but how cool would that be?

I feel like crying with joy just thinking about it, I don't know if I'd be ready

[Whos3000_]

looking at camp flog gnaw my prediction for the top 3 headliners is SZA-Travis Scott- Cure (they have already toured Europe and we know that we can't take SA primavera as indications but why wouldn't primavera book them, considering the shortage of big alternative rock bands?). 

Other co-headliners: Nick cave? Pulp? of course my bloody valentine as every year

Sort of moderately realistic whishlist/prediction for sub-headliners would be: 
The Smile - Olivia Rodrigo- ANHONI (I hope they have this one nailed) - Slowdive - Mitski- Phoebe Bridgers/Boygenius (less likely, they will stop sooner or later)- Sufjan Stevens - Animal Collective - Pj Harvey - Lil Yatchy? - James Blake - Deafheaven?

Curious about the Fontaines DC/Turnstile slot next year, since it has proven to be a lot of fun these last 2 years. 

Other acts I would see as realistic 
Lankum
The Armed 
Armand Hammer/Billy woods 

Edited August 19, 2023 by Whos3000_

[PuzzlePiece]

2 hours ago, Whos3000_ said:

 

Curious about the Fontaines DC/Turnstile slot next year, since it has proven to be a lot of fun these last 2 years.  

King Gizz are ready for mordor!

As for PJ Harvey - what if she’s going to be some special Auditori event, like Spiritualized in 2018?

[Quadrophobia]

On 8/14/2023 at 1:12 PM, Nicklord said:

What about Cardi B a person that admitted to drugging people to steal their money? She cancelled in the end but was on the lineup 

She was booked way before the allegations broke.

 

Also the public scrutiny is on people who abuse their power over others as famous artists and those incidents refer to a time when Cardi B wasn't anywhere near famous. I'm not gonna defend any of those things and I don't care about Cardi B, but the angle for this isn't controversy per se, but its context.

[scatteredscreens]

On 8/15/2023 at 10:50 PM, livenstu said:

I really hope so, been on my wish list for a few years now & they've added more US dates for end of year, could easily go into next year I think

they were great at Green Man just gone, weather was shite though so would like to see them in the Spanish heat!

[UsernameHere]

Any realistic predictions for electronic acts?

In terms of headliners it'd be great to have either The Chemical Bros, AFX or Moderat which I've said before but for smaller acts I'd love a Bicep return as I only caught part of their set 2 years ago and a couple of Justice, Underworld (unlikely), Orbital, Peggy Gou, Floating Points, Romare or The Avalanches being booked would be cool. Not sure how likely any of them are though.

I'd also like to think they'll give us a Massive Attack set whenever the opportunity is there again.

[Fabrizzo]

18 hours ago, UsernameHere said:

Any realistic predictions for electronic acts?

In terms of headliners it'd be great to have either The Chemical Bros, AFX or Moderat which I've said before but for smaller acts I'd love a Bicep return as I only caught part of their set 2 years ago and a couple of Justice, Underworld (unlikely), Orbital, Peggy Gou, Floating Points, Romare or The Avalanches being booked would be cool. Not sure how likely any of them are though.

I'd also like to think they'll give us a Massive Attack set whenever the opportunity is there again.

I like every single artist you named, can you make the lineup?😁 Orb and Leftfield would also be good for old school acts

[chilirocker]

1 hour ago, Fabrizzo said:

I like every single artist you named, can you make the lineup?😁 Orb and Leftfield would also be good for old school acts

LCD Soundsystem are overdue a return, can see Peggy Gou, Honey Dijon, Floating Points, Everything But The Girl, The Blessed Madonna and Flying Lotus being on the bill too. 

[ConfidenceMan]

4 hours ago, chilirocker said:

LCD Soundsystem are overdue a return, can see Peggy Gou, Honey Dijon, Floating Points, Everything But The Girl, The Blessed Madonna and Flying Lotus being on the bill too. 

Everything But The Girl is the only outlandish bet here I think. They called it quits before over Tracy Thorn's stage fright, and when promoting this album, made similar remarks about not hitting the road. 

I'd say Lcd Soundsystem has to be nailed for Europe. They were booked for an Irish gig in August this but apparently pushed it out twelve months to tour the US instead. So only thing to worry about is if they do an end of summer run instead of an early summer one. 

My prediction game is shot at this stage. I see Jungle have been announced for a festival in Ireland in June though so maybe they're in with a shout. 

[UsernameHere]

On 8/26/2023 at 10:22 AM, Fabrizzo said:

I like every single artist you named, can you make the lineup?😁 Orb and Leftfield would also be good for old school acts

Tell Gabi I'd do it for an Estrella and a big bag of Jamon Ruffles! Leftfield would be great.

[LBare]

On 8/25/2023 at 4:54 PM, UsernameHere said:

Any realistic predictions for electronic acts?

In terms of headliners it'd be great to have either The Chemical Bros, AFX or Moderat which I've said before but for smaller acts I'd love a Bicep return as I only caught part of their set 2 years ago and a couple of Justice, Underworld (unlikely), Orbital, Peggy Gou, Floating Points, Romare or The Avalanches being booked would be cool. Not sure how likely any of them are though.

I'd also like to think they'll give us a Massive Attack set whenever the opportunity is there again.

Great selection.

 

I'd add SBTRKT, Kelly Lee Owen and Totally Enourmous Extinct Dinosaurs.

[davidoffescassi]

I don't know if realistic, but : Odesza, Parra for Cuva, Bob Moses, Rufus du Sol, Elderbrook, Mathame, Tale of Us, Anyma, Jan Blomqvist, Ben Bohmer, Fakear or French 79. 

Edited August 28, 2023 by davidoffescassi

[FKA SOSOTWS]

3 hours ago, davidoffescassi said:

I don't know if realistic, but : Odesza, Parra for Cuva, Bob Moses, Rufus du Sol, Elderbrook, Mathame, Tale of Us, Anyma, Jan Blomqvist, Ben Bohmer, Fakear or French 79. 

I bet Sonar is more apt to get these.

[FKA SOSOTWS]

On 8/11/2023 at 11:31 AM, Quadrophobia said:

I'm skeptical if they'd bring Travis Scott. Musically he'd sure be a good fit, but the (Barcelona) Audience at PS has quite high moral standards and that has been reflected in the bookings. They'd never book Arcade Fire right now, considering the accusations against Win Butler and they've also skipped acts like Sun Kil Moon, although they were around and very good fits for PS. And Whilst Travis Scott faces no such accusations atm, his close attachment to Kanye feels like a recipe for disaster. 

Does the audience really have that high standards there? Something like Arcade Fire not being booked says more about the festival organizers and the optics of also promoting The New Normal and such.

Travis Scott's album is a massive streaming hit, so I don't think anybody's gonna care about the Astroworld negligence.

[Fabrizzo]

11 hours ago, davidoffescassi said:

I don't know if realistic, but : Odesza, Parra for Cuva, Bob Moses, Rufus du Sol, Elderbrook, Mathame, Tale of Us, Anyma, Jan Blomqvist, Ben Bohmer, Fakear or French 79. 

Is this Tomorrowland? 😁

[Lars]

Will not be too surprised to see Ty Segall next year. North America tour ends in May 2024. 

https://pitchfork.com/news/ty-segall-announces-2024-tour-shares-video-for-new-song-void-watch/#:~:text=Ty Segall has announced a,by Ty and Denée Segall.

 

[UsernameHere]

11 hours ago, SwallowOrSleepOnTheWetSpot said:

Does the audience really have that high standards there? Something like Arcade Fire not being booked says more about the festival organizers and the optics of also promoting The New Normal and such.

Travis Scott's album is a massive streaming hit, so I don't think anybody's gonna care about the Astroworld negligence.

To add to this - Arcade Fire have been declining at a fast rate since Reflektor imo (which was 10 years ago). I think the decision not to book them was made easier by the back to back poor releases. Would they have been willing to book them had they just dropped a Funeral quality album?

We'll see but Travis Scott seems very likely off the back of Utopia because it's been well received and their options for that slot are limited given they've booked Kendrick, Tyler and ASAP Rocky in the last few years and virtually anyone else I can think of in that category is either too big or doesn't really fit.

[chilirocker]

3 hours ago, UsernameHere said:

To add to this - Arcade Fire have been declining at a fast rate since Reflektor imo (which was 10 years ago). I think the decision not to book them was made easier by the back to back poor releases. Would they have been willing to book them had they just dropped a Funeral quality album?

We'll see but Travis Scott seems very likely off the back of Utopia because it's been well received and their options for that slot are limited given they've booked Kendrick, Tyler and ASAP Rocky in the last few years and virtually anyone else I can think of in that category is either too big or doesn't really fit.

I think SZA, Doja Cat and Drake (he has done some festivals this year, unfortunately) could also take the hip hop slot, but Travis seems most likely. 

[JedTheHumanoid]

3 hours ago, UsernameHere said:

To add to this - Arcade Fire have been declining at a fast rate since Reflektor imo (which was 10 years ago). I think the decision not to book them was made easier by the back to back poor releases. Would they have been willing to book them had they just dropped a Funeral quality album?

They're still an amazing live band that have 4 great albums to build setlist from.

Without the sex scandals, they can easily headline. Maybe not the no. 1 headliner like 2017, but we had much weaker headliners

[davidoffescassi]

7 hours ago, Fabrizzo said:

Is this Tomorrowland? 😁

Only Tale of Us, Mathame or Anyma are Tomorrowland type, and they already had Anyma this year but had to cancel. I don't know why we can have reggaeton or diva pops, and we cannot have these kind of amazing music. Regarding the other artist, they are very Coachella, Sziget, Pukkelpop, Glastonbury friendly, to say something, in fact, most of them play live music, not tomorrowland or EDM Festivals type at all

Edited August 29, 2023 by davidoffescassi

[UsernameHere]

33 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said:

They're still an amazing live band that have 4 great albums to build setlist from.

Without the sex scandals, they can easily headline. Maybe not the no. 1 headliner like 2017, but we had much weaker headliners

They're brilliant live and I agree they'll always have those 4 great albums. I'm just saying I think PS taking a stand (as we're assuming they did) and opting not to book Arcade Fire was surely made easier by the fact that they've been declining for a while and wouldn't be quite as exciting a headliner in 2023.

I'm just questioning whether they would do the same with acts in their prime and I'm leaning towards thinking the festival would ignore moral issues surrounding these artists when it makes sense commercially - like when it comes to booking Travis Scott as we've seen to an extent by the fact they booked him for one of their South American festivals.

[Rico_Pliskin]

Just now, UsernameHere said:

They're brilliant live and I agree they'll always have those 4 great albums. I'm just saying I think PS taking a stand (as we're assuming they did) and opting not to book Arcade Fire was surely made easier by the fact that they've been declining for a while and wouldn't be quite as exciting a headliner in 2023.

I'm just questioning whether they would do the same with acts in their prime and I'm leaning towards thinking the festival would ignore moral issues surrounding these artists when it makes sense commercially - like when it comes to booking Travis Scott as we've seen to an extent by the fact they booked him for one of their South American festivals.

Loved their last album. Caught them in Dublin. Definitely not in decline imo

[emmanuel]

2 hours ago, UsernameHere said:

They're brilliant live and I agree they'll always have those 4 great albums. I'm just saying I think PS taking a stand (as we're assuming they did) and opting not to book Arcade Fire was surely made easier by the fact that they've been declining for a while and wouldn't be quite as exciting a headliner in 2023.

Agree with that. I saw them in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2014 and 2018 and there was a clear decline in 2018. They would play the exact same "hits" as their 2017 appearance which is not a great top 3 headliner even in the best circumstances. But then I've given up of them since the allegations (and especially the response) and I think this is true for many other Primavera attendees. I doubt people would really mind if they are booked as 2nd tier headliners with little promotion, but then I think band will continue to focus on more commercial festivals, which is probably a win-win situation.

[Whos3000_]

I think some of the name mentioned here would work as 3rd headliner (see arcade fire), which isn’t really a headliner given the top slots each night are usually 2. They usually go for 2 strong ones or a combination of slightly less strong (I wouldn’t say weak) 3 acts. 
We should distinguish between very in-demand acts you build the line up around to (see Depeche Mode, Rosalia or Sza, who I can easily see as main headliner) and those who fill the gaps more or less appropriately (bands like the national)