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16 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

The National sell tickets to a certain demographic, so if the festival think they fit then they'll get booked. They're an easy win, and there's an existing relationship there.

And I have the feeling The National has became bigger than ever.

And, maybe, better than ever. Coming from someone who has been seeing them live since Boxer came out. 

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17 minutes ago, jannybruck said:

The National sell tickets to a certain demographic, so if the festival think they fit then they'll get booked. They're an easy win, and there's an existing relationship there.

I'm not so sure. I think they are conscious of trying to keep things relatively fresh and they have simply been at the top of the poster too often recently.

Wilco fitted the demographic and they used to book them regularly but despite the relationship, they stopped booking them.

Plus of course their touring dates may not coincide.

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17 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said:

Who will be the biggest hip hop name on this lineup? As things stand, Travis Scott seems to be my biggest guess. I thought that after the Astroworld tragedy they would never be able to book him but he performed at Primavera Americas so I guess they don’t care. 

To be honest he has a massive tour in the US booked so the floodgates are already open. Think he'll be booked, I just hope some of the bad people in his fanbase don't ruin the vibe of that day.

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3 hours ago, xxialac said:

I'm not so sure. I think they are conscious of trying to keep things relatively fresh and they have simply been at the top of the poster too often recently.

Wilco fitted the demographic and they used to book them regularly but despite the relationship, they stopped booking them.

Plus of course their touring dates may not coincide.

As a longtime fan, I can be ok with a wednesday headlining slot or with a 3rd/4th slot in the main days (with some good counter-programming though). If they bill them as headliners again I would feel it’s a cheap move (as it would be)  

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5 hours ago, festivalguy97 said:

Who will be the biggest hip hop name on this lineup? As things stand, Travis Scott seems to be my biggest guess. I thought that after the Astroworld tragedy they would never be able to book him but he performed at Primavera Americas so I guess they don’t care. 

What if they went against the hypetrain and bet their money on Drake (+21 savage)? Huge star, solid back catalogue (well, let’s pretend his last solo efforts do not exist) and new release incoming 

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1 hour ago, Whos3000_ said:

What if they went against the hypetrain and bet their money on Drake (+21 savage)? Huge star, solid back catalogue (well, let’s pretend his last solo efforts do not exist) and new release incoming 

I think that at this point Drake (like Taylor Swift and Bad Bunny) are just too big to be doing festivals, both in monetary and logistical therms. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Martin_89 said:

More critical acclaimed that fits the Primavera profile, way more than a EDM mainstream DJ. If you can't see that, then you either hate Drake very much or don't know what kind of music profile Primavera has.

Drake being critically acclaimed is a big stretch. Maybe some of his early stuff (Take Care, Nothing Was the Same) but his material now is mainly absolute trash. He has nowhere near the acclaim other acts like Tyler, Kendrick, Travis (although I think he is vastly overrated) that the festival book. He'd also come with a massive price tag to the point the festival think we'd get better value booking someone else. 

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2 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said:

Just listened to the new Sufjan Stevens album, absolutely beautiful album, his best one since Carrie & Lowell. Would be amazing to have him at Primavera. 

It's a stunning record, could be my AOTY. He isn't touring though unfortunately, I personally don't think he ever will ever again. But I'm glad he's still making incredible music.

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Just now, scatteredscreens said:

It's a stunning record, could be my AOTY. He isn't touring though unfortunately, I personally don't think he ever will ever again. But I'm glad he's still making incredible music.

I read a couple of days ago that he´s been recovering pretty well and that already 1 month ago he was in recovery so let´s see, but maybe 2024 is too early for him.

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15 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said:

Drake being critically acclaimed is a big stretch. Maybe some of his early stuff (Take Care, Nothing Was the Same) but his material now is mainly absolute trash. He has nowhere near the acclaim other acts like Tyler, Kendrick, Travis (although I think he is vastly overrated) that the festival book. He'd also come with a massive price tag to the point the festival think we'd get better value booking someone else. 

Sure, can agree with that, but my response was that Drake is way better booking than Calvin Harris (and in that comparison you can say that Drake is critically acclaimed). I also said that he was way too big anyway.

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42 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said:

I read a couple of days ago that he´s been recovering pretty well and that already 1 month ago he was in recovery so let´s see, but maybe 2024 is too early for him.

Gabi has said he isn't touring. Sufjan has said in the past he doesn't like touring as well. I think he won't tour in a full capacity ever again, and even the chance of a handful of dates is slim.

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