Lana Del Rey Curfew

[Colorblindjames]

12 hours ago, foolsgold1981 said:

So, I have just got off the phone to a friend who works at Other Stage - won't say more as I don't want to identify him for obvious reasons.

Apparently this all started because her stylist was late getting on site - apparently there was either a mixup with the pass or travel issues: he isn't sure. She was told several times by the stage manager (and also confirmed with Michael/Emily) that under no circumstances could it go past the curfew because it needs to be staggered. She was offered to be put in contact with various stylists on site for other artists but she refused. Essentially said "the crowd will wait for me and you can't do anything about it". Said she retreated to her dressing room/trailer with her manager/entourage and refused to discuss it further.

Stylist turns up, and again they stress to her that if she's late on, she'll need to cut songs. Again, her and her road manager just brush it off and tell them that the crowd are all there to see her. Won't discuss it further. People frantically running round calling for her to come out and go on. She won't engage. Eventually they threaten to pull her entire set and she reluctantly goes on but manager is being really aggressive to the stage crew at the start of the set. Refusing to drop any songs despite being told again that it's an absolute midnight limit.

Set starts, stage crew are telling her from the side that she needs to drop songs. They were desperate not to embarrass her so they're trying to communicate this. Manager still being a dick at this point. Then she starts vaping (the festival will get fined for this) and this really pisses everyone off. Stylist comes on and starts doing her hair on stage, which confused everyone. A few more attempts to get her to take out songs (she alludes to this on stage) and then there's another panic as deadline approaches, more calls to Michael/Emily and the decision is made to cut the set.

He had to go off and deal with an issue elsewhere at this point, but apparently it got very ugly backstage after. Threats of legal action, shouting and screaming. Saying that they'll "ruin the festival".

I'm actually a massive Lana fan (last two albums are amazing) but I have had similar experiences live with her (the disappearing into the front of the crowd for 20 minutes especially) so I went to Guns n' Roses instead. I'm really sorry for everyone involved here especially the crowd - two girls I was camping with were absolutely devastated as it was their highlight of the festival. I can understand people being angry at the festival but this is the sort of thing that loses stage managers and experienced crew their jobs and reputations. And it's a fair point that Bruce and Macca were given more time but A) they didn't behave rudely to the stage crew before going on and B) the festival was fined and given a severe telling off for both of those things and the festival does have to be very careful these days with complaints and the council. There are a lot of people in the council and living locally who would be more than happy for the festival to be permanently cancelled, or hugely scaled back.

Having watched the show back, what is there is magnificent. That could have been one of the all time great sets. I'm sure she'll have her reasons and maybe she just assumed it was edgy to do it, but apparently the stage crew were saying that they've never had to deal with such a stressful and rude situation in their career. And some of them have worked at Glastonbury for 25 years.

Just sad for all involved ☹️

Sounds like the stage crew would never have coped in the 60s and 70s. 

Ultimately the festival screwed up here. Punishing the audience over some trivial beef they are having with LDR. 

[foolsgold1981]

I don't think people realise how much the festival is disliked by many in Mendip Council - both in the council and the locals. There are many, many people who would love to see it cancelled or massively scaled back. Hence the level of panic around people peeing on the land. The crew that I knew working were very worried around curfews this year.

[Colorblindjames]

1 minute ago, Drinky said:

You’re saying Lizzo cut some songs to come in under curfew after starting late? What a great idea!

Maybe. But there appears to be no curfew for old male rockers at Glastonbury. 

[Colorblindjames]

3 minutes ago, Drinky said:

After last year and the subsequent censure from Mendip CC, no one on the main five stages was going to get any latitude on curfew - I’m guessing they were all briefed on it, and all the Pyramid headliners came in on time (Elton played pretty much exactly 9pm to 11pm) L.

Ha ha. Yes of course Mendip council are gonna cancel Glastonbury over Lana running 30 mins late. Is everyone in music now an obedient drone? 

[FloorFiller]

1 minute ago, Colorblindjames said:

Maybe. But there appears to be no curfew for old male rockers at Glastonbury. 

Old male rockers who turn up on time and decide they want to give the audience MORE material and are happy to pay the fine that’s required of them. Literally not comparable to Lana at all. 

[foolsgold1981]

1 minute ago, Colorblindjames said:

Sounds like the stage crew would never have coped in the 60s and 70s. 

Ultimately the festival screwed up here. Punishing the audience over some trivial beef they are having with LDR. 

Going on 30 minutes late and ignoring all offers of help is not a trivial matter. This sort of thing gets stage hands sacked and their reputation in tatters.

Some of these guys are serious veterans and say they've never experienced anything like it in their careers. As I said in my post - I wasn't there and I'm only reporting what I've been told. I acknowledge that there is some hypocrisy with Macca/Bruce but there are differences in both the time of the festival, the situation the festival was in and the (alleged) behaviour before the show. I've no beef with Lana myself - I'm a fan, I'm gutted for the people there and what is on TV looked amazing. But these are seasoned pros and they were really shocked by the whole thing.

[collectivisedfarming]

7 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Lana was the highlight and the lowlight of the weekend.

Her performance and staging was fab. A beautiful, messy performance. The curfew was a lowlight and a disgrace. Especially if it's true old male rockers were allowed to overrun in the past.

Some of the responses slagging off LDR and her late arrival are a little bit sad. This is the music industry folks. Artists often misbehave. Do we want Glastonbury to be a sanitised, disneyfied experience? Are the main stages only to be populated by non threatening boys and girls?

IMO Glastonbury are 100% at fault here. First of all she should have headlined the pyramid anyway instead of the cock rock we got all weekend. (With the exception of Elton who deserved his send off.) Her music catalogue over the past 8 years is simply a stunning body of work. 

Secondly selecting her slot to start at 10-30 and giving her only 1hr and 15 was asking for trouble if indeed there was a 12am curfew. 

Thirdly Glastonbury showed great disrespect to their customers who for many like myself LDR was to be the highlight of the whole festival. 

She could easily have gone on on time, there was no good reason why not. If you can't go on on time then you have to shorten your set. She was, or felt, unable to do either so she got cut off. The fault is entirely with her. 

I'm sure she would have liked to headline the pyramid and play for two hours but that wasn't the slot on offer. If she didn't like what she was offered she shouldn't have played. She is much less likely to ever be headlining the pyramid now though that's for sure. 

[Colorblindjames]

1 minute ago, FloorFiller said:

Old male rockers who turn up on time and decide they want to give the audience MORE material and are happy to pay the fine that’s required of them. Literally not comparable to Lana at all. 

Oh so you agree the festival decided to punish LDR for her tardiness? I think they did too. But they really ended up punishing their customers which was a disgrace IMO. 

[FloorFiller]

2 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Oh so you agree the festival decided to punish LDR for her tardiness? I think they did too. But they really ended up punishing their customers which was a disgrace IMO. 

Nope, she punished her audience by not bothering to show up on time - the end. 

[Colorblindjames]

1 minute ago, collectivisedfarming said:

She could easily have gone on on time, there was no good reason why not. If you can't go on on time then you have to shorten your set. She was, or felt, unable to do either so she got cut off. The fault is entirely with her. 

I'm sure she would have liked to headline the pyramid and play for two hours but that wasn't the slot on offer. If she didn't like what she was offered she shouldn't have played. She is much less likely to ever be headlining the pyramid now though that's for sure. 

I wouldn't blame her for telling Glastonbury to do one. As I said in my earlier post Glastonbury screwed up and she should have been on the Pyramid. It all went down hill from there. 

And no the history of rock music is littered with bands turning up late and playing late. Headliners should be given some leeway at the festival as they aren't pushing back anyone else's performance. 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

10 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Ultimately the festival screwed up here. Punishing the audience over some trivial beef they are having with LDR. 

I have zero interest in this having never heard a LDR song, but reading that statement and this being your takeaway is f**king hilarious. 

 

[Colorblindjames]

Just now, FloorFiller said:

Nope, she punished her audience by not bothering to show up on time - the end. 

Nope. I blame the festival not LDR as I explained elsewhere. 

[Colorblindjames]

Just now, BBC7BBCHEAVEN said:

I have zero interest in this having never heard a LDR song, but reading that statement and this being your takeaway is f**king hilarious. 

 

Ha ha. No interest yet lurking on a LDR thread. Yes that is hilarious. 

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

Just now, Colorblindjames said:

Ha ha. No interest yet lurking on a LDR thread. Yes that is hilarious. 

LDR doesn't care about you as a fan, that's the basic summary.

 

[Andy0808 v5]

What a simp.

[collectivisedfarming]

Just now, Colorblindjames said:

I wouldn't blame her for telling Glastonbury to do one. As I said in my earlier post Glastonbury screwed up and she should have been on the Pyramid. It all went down hill from there. 

And no the history of rock music is littered with bands turning up late and playing late. Headliners should be given some leeway at the festival as they aren't pushing back anyone else's performance. 

She had a headline slot on the second stage, itself a big deal. If she thinks that's so below her that she has to act the fool in protest I think she needs to grow up a bit. 

The history of rock music is full of all sorts of bullshit and sh*tty behaviour. It doesn't have to be a given or indulged. 

[Mark H]

4 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

I wouldn't blame her for telling Glastonbury to do one. As I said in my earlier post Glastonbury screwed up and she should have been on the Pyramid. It all went down hill from there. 

Hi! I’m coming in late to this discussion, and I wasn’t there on the night. But I’m struggling with this argument a bit.

Essentially Glastonbury and Lana formed a contract, she was offered and accepted the Other Stage headline. Even if it wasn’t her first choice, she took the gig and would have accepted the terms that came with it. She then breached those terms. 

[FloorFiller]

6 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Nope. I blame the festival not LDR as I explained elsewhere. 

Well you’re free to do so, but if you’d remove your LDR tinted glasses for a second, you’d come to the obvious conclusion that she’s the one who’s in the wrong. She knew the rules, she chose to ignore them thinking that she was above them, and it backfired on her. 
 

If this was a one off instance of her being late then I could see the argument against the festival, maybe, but the fact is she does it all the time, and if you think Glastonbury should bend their usual start times/end times etc because she’s a known shithead then you’re a fool.

Edited June 27, 2023 by FloorFiller

[Colorblindjames]

2 minutes ago, BBC7BBCHEAVEN said:

LDR doesn't care about you as a fan, that's the basic summary.

 

Ha ha. I don't give a shyte if she cares for me or not. I just want to hear her sing. Having shelled out for a Glastonbury ticket I expected a full set. 

Do you still put posters up and think your favourite artists love you? Sweet.  

[Cheesey]

1 minute ago, Colorblindjames said:

Having shelled out for a Glastonbury ticket I expected a full set. 

And LDR failed to give you that, simply because she and her entourage were being complete bellends.

[Colorblindjames]

5 minutes ago, Barry Fish said:

I think you over estimate her popularity...  I had no clue who she is...

The only disgrace was her.  She disrespected her fans and disrespected the festival.

I doubt she will be asked to come back

Ha ha. Yes I guess if you haven't heard of an artist they can't be popular. 

[Colorblindjames]

4 minutes ago, Cheesey said:

And LDR failed to give you that, simply because she and her entourage were being complete bellends.

Nah it was the festival that made the decision. LDR wanted to continue. 

[OllieMadd]

Why are you all encouraging this knobhead

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

6 minutes ago, Colorblindjames said:

Do you still put posters up and think your favourite artists love you? Sweet.  

I've never done that, but then I'm not the one on here having a "leave Britney alone" moment about a singer who couldn't be bothered to come on stage because her hair was more important than her performance

I'm just enjoying your meltdown

[Chip Batch]

17 minutes ago, FloorFiller said:

Nope, she punished her audience by not bothering to show up on time - the end. 

No more upvotes left but totally this. 
 

The person posting above is a superfan who is blind to the obvious, and would say she’d done no wrong whatever had happened.
 

I don’t know her music and couldn’t name a song, but from complaints  about the poster release to being late on Saturday she comes across as really self entitled. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Chip Batch