whats the ticket price going to be ?

[incident]

1 hour ago, duke88 said:

Surely it's no different to paying to be a member of a football club or something - gives you the opportunity to buy tickets, but doesn't guarantee it.

I think a fundamental difference is that every football club has (at minimum) 19 home games a year and so you're looking at a range of opportunities. Whereas it's a lot less justifiable when it's just one.

[ProperTea]

11 hours ago, aj6658 said:

It's about Demographics. The festival is what it is because of the culture it's fostered for the last 50 years.

Accessibility allows of a wide range of different demos to attend from young to old. £500 would sell out but there will be large proportion of people who have historically gone now questioning it (basically doubled in price 3/4 years)

Say you got 2 kids - a family going costs 2k like you gotta realise this is a threat to the festival 

People said the same thing about it breaching £200 ticket and then that happened and they said it about £300 a ticket and now it's £400. Not diminishing your point but it might make less of a difference than you think as the price of everything else goes up too so it doesn't seem as bad, comparatively.

The demographic has been changing for years and will continue to change.

If it was up to me, to kill three birds with one stone (overcrowding, affordability and demographics) I'd change the ticket structure so there were 15,000 'Friday - Sunday' tickets at a reduced price, only available to under 25s.

Loss of income offset by making it so that you can only register for a ticket if you're a member of 'Club Glastonbury' (or something) which costs £20 per year. (Basically charging people to register but having some other perks to make it feel less stingy).

[Alvoram]

11 hours ago, stuie said:

They need to change PSP. 

Even SumUp now only charges a flat rate of 1.49% with no monthly or transaction fees. 

Haven't used a merchant services provider that doesn't work on percentages in at least 8 years, maybe longer. 

It's why we suddenly saw (most) minimum transaction amounts disappear over night in retail... 0.7% of £1 is no worse than 0.7% of £1,000,000

(Ironically though, your example Sumup have a service wide minimum transaction amount of £1... They also charge 1.69% to new customers not opting for the 'SumUp One' subscription model, they're a bit of a rip off to be honest.)

12 hours ago, DeanoL said:

I'm only talking about 2023 to 2024 prices. Like you I can't figure out why the prices went up so much between 2019 and 2022. Totally unexplainable and random.

Bank of England has inflation rates at 21% between 2019 and 2023. Given that when the prices for 2023 were set we were facing a fuel crisis, materials shortage, record food inflation and all we were reading in the papers was how it was only going to get worse, perhaps the organisers took that 21% and built in a buffer to cover the unknown. 

Maybe, just maybe, with the situation not turning out quite as badly so far as the worst doom mongers were predicting, we won't see much of a price increase this year, maybe last year's buffer covers it??? 

Or maybe we will, maybe they were just clawing back covid losses... I don't really care either way, it'd still be the best value music event on the planet at £500 a head!

[Leyrulion]

19 hours ago, aj6658 said:

In 4 years, tickets have increased by 37%. Peoples wages haven't increased by 37%. I dont really get your argument here? 

Side note, ticket price has actually tracked pretty consistently with the amount of hours needed to work at minimum wage to get a ticket since 2009. 

 

[t0paz]

8 hours ago, ProperTea said:

15,000 'Friday - Sunday' tickets at a reduced price, only available to under 25s.

I think that’s a good idea. They could also do reduced price family tickets and reduced price tickets for those on benefits.

It may be tricky to administer but it’s perfectly possibly. 

[incident]

9 hours ago, ProperTea said:

If it was up to me, to kill three birds with one stone (overcrowding, affordability and demographics) I'd change the ticket structure so there were 15,000 'Friday - Sunday' tickets at a reduced price, only available to under 25s.

 

Loss of income offset by making it so that you can only register for a ticket if you're a member of 'Club Glastonbury' (or something) which costs £20 per year. (Basically charging people to register but having some other perks to make it feel less stingy).

The problem isn't just loss of income from the ticket price, it's also a potential loss of income for bars, food stalls, etc with that likely being reflected in reduced pitch fees.

[stuie]

7 hours ago, Alvoram said:

(Ironically though, your example Sumup have a service wide minimum transaction amount of £1... They also charge 1.69% to new customers not opting for the 'SumUp One' subscription model, they're a bit of a rip off to be honest.)

Yes, I was using them as a kind of worst case example of the higher rate, available to everybody service.

[Gingerfish79]

When demand outstrips supply by such a significant margin, there is no fair way to introduce reduced prices in any meaningful way. 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Gingerfish79

[clarkete]

They lost a lot of money didn't they?

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.billboard.com%2Fpro%2Fglastonbury-festival-2019-financial-loss-covid-19%2F

I know they had some payments as well as their own income, but a lot of reserves to fill.

[dotdash79]

59 minutes ago, clarkete said:

They lost a lot of money didn't they?

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.billboard.com%2Fpro%2Fglastonbury-festival-2019-financial-loss-covid-19%2F

I know they had some payments as well as their own income, but a lot of reserves to fill.

They lost basically all the sunk cost for the 2020 festival as they were about start the build so all the deposits were lost. 

[Leyrulion]

On 9/21/2023 at 11:36 AM, Gingerfish79 said:

When demand outstrips supply by such a significant margin, there is no fair way to introduce reduced prices in any meaningful way. 

Shambala are the only ones I know that do it in meaningful way. Ask people to round up when getting a round and use that money to work with local food banks and charities to give free tickets away. 

If you can't afford the rent you're not saving up for a festival. Etc. 

[DeanoL]

1 hour ago, Leyrulion said:

Shambala are the only ones I know that do it in meaningful way. Ask people to round up when getting a round and use that money to work with local food banks and charities to give free tickets away. 

If you can't afford the rent you're not saving up for a festival. Etc. 

I'd argue that Glastonbury's extensive and generous volunteering system does it in a "meaningful way" - just a different one. They could still fill the volunteering spots even if they doubled it from 3 shifts to 6. Then half the number of volunteers and sell that many extra tickets instead. But those people then wouldn't really get to experience the festival in any real way.