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2024 Ticket Price & Sale Date Announced


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9 minutes ago, Gnomicide said:

You could ne right on the £40 - £60 price mark. I really have a long hard think before spending that, especially if the gig isn't local. Mind you, I have so far refused to pay any of the stupid stadium gig prices we are seeing, even missing out on The Stones last time round. The average I'm paying these days is £25.

Someone like Elbow, I had in mind, ticket prices for e.g Glasgow are 50-75 quid. Who's going to that? Is the demographic of Elbow fans in 2023 big enough to fill these stadiums? Who's willing to drop that sort of money on a band that tours every year or so, regular as clockwork. Those are the kind of acts I imagine potentially being squeezed out. 

 

I'm not knocking Elbow, just fascinated that there are (presumably) enough fans willing to drop 60+ quid a ticket for an arena show.

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11 minutes ago, Mardy said:

Someone like Elbow, I had in mind, ticket prices for e.g Glasgow are 50-75 quid. Who's going to that? Is the demographic of Elbow fans in 2023 big enough to fill these stadiums? Who's willing to drop that sort of money on a band that tours every year or so, regular as clockwork. Those are the kind of acts I imagine potentially being squeezed out. 

 

I'm not knocking Elbow, just fascinated that there are (presumably) enough fans willing to drop 60+ quid a ticket for an arena show.

Arctic Monkeys just played 3 sold out shows in Dublin. £70 (€80) for the cheap seats. They play here basically every year. 

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2 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

Well, of course. It's all guesswork, isn't it?

All we can do is make a prediction based upon the speed that recent years have sold, the perceived success of the 2023 event (certainly how it was covered in the media, particularly to attract new attendees), the fact that it's still the biggest and best cultural event in the UK bar none and how other heavily-priced events seem to be quickly selling out, despite economic challenges.

Also, don't underestimate the significance of the (relatively low) deposit scheme. It gives anyone sitting on the fence the opportunity to chance their arm in November and take six months to make a final decision. If people had to pay the full balance up-front with no ability to refund, then yes, the initial sale would look quite different.

While that scheme is in place, and taking all of the above into consideration, in November 2023, I'm confident that the festival still sells out in the usual one hour timeframe. Any thoughts otherwise, are copium. Which I understand.

A balanced and well reasoned post which I respect although I’m not as confident as you are of the immediate sell out. 

Dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as copium is a bit of an unusual conclusion. 

I’m not after tickets so can rule out copium here!

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35 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

It's not unaffected - the price is going up and they're having to cut a few corners here and there.

But there will still be enough folk comfortable enough that demand will outstrip supply for tickets.

sorry I meant the sale but maybe the edge in demand will be taken off but still sell out , still might make it slightly easier . even the sale time doesn't really tell us much because they can control that 

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3 hours ago, Mardy said:

Someone like Elbow, I had in mind, ticket prices for e.g Glasgow are 50-75 quid. Who's going to that? Is the demographic of Elbow fans in 2023 big enough to fill these stadiums? Who's willing to drop that sort of money on a band that tours every year or so, regular as clockwork. Those are the kind of acts I imagine potentially being squeezed out. 

 

I'm not knocking Elbow, just fascinated that there are (presumably) enough fans willing to drop 60+ quid a ticket for an arena show.

This is exactly it. I actually am an Elbow fan, seen them loads at festivals and a few smaller venues. Can I be arsed travelling to Manchester to see them in an Arena for £60, especially when the chances are they will crop up at a number of festivals, if not this year, then next? Almost certainly not.

 

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On 10/20/2023 at 9:22 PM, Mike A said:

I think it's the latter. They're worried about people still not realizing that their registrations have been wiped. In our ticket group, 10 of the 60 reg #'s that people thought were good failed to validate with See.
Some of those were typo's but some others were people that had previously checked their status and were certain that they were still good.

I think this, I also suspect that they've had a change up of their comms. There's a few bits about the way they've been doing social media posts since September that make me think it's either a new company they've contracted out to do social, or they're using new brand guidelines (or both!) So entirely possible they're just being proactive.

 

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4 hours ago, Mardy said:

Someone like Elbow, I had in mind, ticket prices for e.g Glasgow are 50-75 quid. Who's going to that? Is the demographic of Elbow fans in 2023 big enough to fill these stadiums? Who's willing to drop that sort of money on a band that tours every year or so, regular as clockwork. Those are the kind of acts I imagine potentially being squeezed out. 

 

I'm not knocking Elbow, just fascinated that there are (presumably) enough fans willing to drop 60+ quid a ticket for an arena show.

Arenas are smaller than you'd think, given catchment area. You're looking at 14,000 at the Hydro, just 7 dates across the country, all similar size so that's 100,000 people. So about 0.15% of the population. It's not that many people to reach on an annual basis. Any band that were once super-big generally maintain enough fans to make that sort of thing possible. 

James still sell out arena tours on an annual basis and do tons of festival work over the summer. Adam Kay did an arena tour reading from his book last year.

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6 hours ago, stuie said:

A balanced and well reasoned post which I respect although I’m not as confident as you are of the immediate sell out. 

Dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as copium is a bit of an unusual conclusion. 

I’m not after tickets so can rule out copium here!

The copium comment wasn't meant in an aggressive or patronising manner, and certainly not aimed at you or any individual. More of an attempt to prepare people for more of the same as we've experienced in recent years. History would suggest this is the likely outcome, and I don't think there's enough to suggest anything to the contrary.

Like I said in another post. Preparation is key, and if you really want to be there in June, you'll find a way between now and then. The November sale isn't the be-all-and-end-all, but it's a difficult starting point! 😀

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If the technology was up to it, this would be the fastest sell out ever. Demand has simply never been higher and its becoming harder and harder to get tickets.

barely debateable as far as im concerned. 
 

i am very worried that our group wont be successful for the first time since we started going in the late 00s. its just become such a level playing field and a hyper desirable ticket, and the weather has been decent for what seems like many many years now

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10 hours ago, Memory Man said:

I dont see it being affected by cozzie livs whatsoever as theres always something else in your budget you can cut and lets be honest its now very middle class

MIddle class people have mortgages too.  Average rises of £500 per month.  Middle class rises will be more! 

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22 hours ago, Mardy said:

Someone like Elbow, I had in mind, ticket prices for e.g Glasgow are 50-75 quid. Who's going to that? Is the demographic of Elbow fans in 2023 big enough to fill these stadiums? Who's willing to drop that sort of money on a band that tours every year or so, regular as clockwork. Those are the kind of acts I imagine potentially being squeezed out. 

 

I'm not knocking Elbow, just fascinated that there are (presumably) enough fans willing to drop 60+ quid a ticket for an arena show.

I think there are very different classes of music fan these days though.

Someone like me (who is actually an Elbow fan - bit of a sucker for Guy Garvey's voice) wouldn't pay to see them for all the reasons you say but I am someone who keeps up to date with music, buy vinyl, buy many gig tickets, merch etc and go to Glastonbury. I have had to cut back and my way of cutting back has been to set a relatively hard limit of no more than £35 for a gig ticket any more. I say relatively hard because of course if someone special comes along there's a chance I'd break it ie the people who tour once in a blue moon.

But there are thousands of people who spend nothing on music on a day to day basis but will probably always be happy to go and see Elbow because One Day Like This was their wedding song and it's a great anniversary present every other year.

I thought like you that it would be the big arena acts that suffered but it just doesn't seem to be so I am happy with my decision to support the grass roots one more and a big bonus is that you tend to get less dickheads at the smaller venues.

It's the same reason why Glastonbury will be the last festival to suffer from cost of living crisis. It's the biggest and the best so whilst the cost goes up it still represents great value. For me it has become even more important as it's my chance to tick off those mid to large sized artists that are just out of my budget now.

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10 hours ago, Memory Man said:

I dont see it being affected by cozzie livs whatsoever as theres always something else in your budget you can cut and lets be honest its now very middle class

Yeah but that's using this site's general attitude that Glastonbury is the best thing of the year and the last to be cut. Yes, there are plenty of people for whom that is true, and yes, the middle classes may have to choose this year between Glastonbury and a weeks' holiday somewhere, when previously they would have done both. But there's a danger in assuming all or most will choose Glastonbury.

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24 minutes ago, gigpusher said:

It's the same reason why Glastonbury will be the last festival to suffer from cost of living crisis. It's the biggest and the best so whilst the cost goes up it still represents great value. For me it has become even more important as it's my chance to tick off those mid to large sized artists that are just out of my budget now.

It's the biggest. 

The 'best' part is highly subjective.   There are a whole list of reasons why, for a lot of people, it's not the best. 

Crowding, queues, size, topography.

There's better examples of everything out there - it's best feature is that it's a massive collection of everything. 

 

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I think this year, after Elton, will sell out in the usual way and we'll have a lot of disappointed people on here in 2 weeks. The deposit helps at this point but could lead to a smaller resale (we said this last year, didn't happen) Whether that carries on will be down to the weather and how good it lopks on tv

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48 minutes ago, stuie said:

It's the biggest. 

The 'best' part is highly subjective.   There are a whole list of reasons why, for a lot of people, it's not the best. 

Crowding, queues, size, topography.

There's better examples of everything out there - it's best feature is that it's a massive collection of everything. 

 

Yep if you go to a festival for any one genre of music, or comedy  then yes undoubtedly you will find better examples for just that genre but no other festival covers the breadth of genres, activities etc that Glastonbury does and for me who has a wide ranging taste it does make it the best.

I also think it has plenty of other unique factors that make it the best ie being able to bring your own food and drink anywhere, it not being anywhere near as commercialized as other festivals, having great founding principles that I agree with (I appreciate some people might not care about some of these things but I do)

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23 hours ago, gigpusher said:

I also think it has plenty of other unique factors that make it the best ie being able to bring your own food and drink anywhere, it not being anywhere near as commercialized as other festivals, having great founding principles that I agree with (I appreciate some people might not care about some of these things but I do)

This is far from unique.

Every festival, bar one, that I've been to allows this.

Again every one I've been to, bar one, is at least as "un-commercialized" as Glastonbury. 

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16 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

This is far from unique.

Every festival, bar one, that I've been to allows this.

Again every one I've been to, bar one, is at least as "un-commercialized" as Glastonbury. 

Which ones please? 

I’ve been to small festivals that impose limits because they need the bar spend in order to remain uncommercialised. 

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