2024 Ticket Buying Tips

[gigpusher]

Just now, Nick_ said:

Nope.  I know absolutely nobody who I could ask to do this.

You are on a forum where people literally create threads asking people to do this. Last year it resulted in 6 different resale spreadsheets so sorry but that is clearly rubbish.

[gooner1990]

Binning the deposit altogether might help drop the demand on T-day. 😉 

[Nick_]

Just now, gigpusher said:

You are on a forum where people literally create threads asking people to do this. Last year it resulted in 6 different resale spreadsheets so sorry but that is clearly rubbish.

You were talking about friends.  As a (now) single man in my 60s, I have very few real friends, and none that I could impose this on.

[Fish Bulb]

18 minutes ago, BBC7BBCHEAVEN said:

Most people aren't going to drop £500 to have a slightly increased chance 

But those who could afford to would have a greater chance - is that fair?

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

Just now, Fish Bulb said:

But those who could afford to would have a greater chance - is that fair?

No less fair than the current system, those who can afford to could pay people to try for them now if they wanted

[DeanoL]

£500 gives you 50 people trying for you at UK minimum wage. You'd probably get tickets.

[balti-pie]

in the grand scheme of things, there's about 150k tickets and at a conservative estimate, about 500k people trying for them. so about a one in three and a bit chance. 

Some are serious about it, sharing info and spreadsheets and hopefully maximising their chances, and some log onto seetickets and give it a bit of a bash before giving up after twenty minutes of BSOD and then moaning about it on twitter or on here.

While demand outstrips supply people will be 'wanting to make it fair' but to be honest, fair only really means 'ensure i get a ticket'. If you really want to go, volunteer. It might take a couple of years of getting onto lists and volunteering for other festivals, and it does impinge on your annual leave a bit more, but i dont have to join the ticket bunfight any more, i only do it for mates. (and i havnt even seen the bloody booking page since 2016!) 

[Jack.194]

I can see why people think the DNS hack is wrong, but now people are saying it’s immoral to group up with others?

Next you’ll be saying refreshing manually more than every 20 seconds shouldn’t be allowed.

[gooner1990]

Next you'll have people suggesting to go back to them being sold in record shops (which will never happen) but lets pretend for a second they did....people would then kick off because people would camp outside to ensure they got a ticket, which not all people can do, or other people would pay people to queue up on their behalf...etc etc.

Whatever the system is people will complain because it doesn't suit them or get them a ticket, the second it does they think it works great.

[pigital]

1 minute ago, Jack.194 said:

Next you’ll be saying refreshing manually more than every 20 seconds shouldn’t be allowed.

You don't wait for the auto-refresh? You inhuman disgrace!
I bet you pee on the land too!

[gfa]

17 minutes ago, BBC7BBCHEAVEN said:

No less fair than the current system, those who can afford to could pay people to try for them now if they wanted

Its not like you can google glastonbury ticket helpers . com etc

you'd have to properly dig to find this kind of thing, casuals aren't going to be finding this IMO

I don't know many people on sites like this who have been approached - this forum being a prime place for people who want to sell ticket getting services to sell their product given everyone on here is desperate to go every year pretty much

I know i'd happily pay someone £20 if its risk free to massively boost my chances, its the cost of 3 beers inside the fest...

Edited November 20, 2023 by gfa

[gfa]

3 minutes ago, Jack.194 said:

I can see why people think the DNS hack is wrong, but now people are saying it’s immoral to group up with others?

Next you’ll be saying refreshing manually more than every 20 seconds shouldn’t be allowed.

to be fair it would be awesome if you had a year where groups got banned

atmosphere would be amazing, while sure tons of people would still manage to get in with their friends there would be far more solo people than usual knocking about

[DeanoL]

4 minutes ago, Jack.194 said:

I can see why people think the DNS hack is wrong, but now people are saying it’s immoral to group up with others?

Next you’ll be saying refreshing manually more than every 20 seconds shouldn’t be allowed.

It's more there's no fundamental difference between the two. I don't have a problem with people doing the whole huge group thing, but when those same people get annoyed that others are using bots or using the DNS hack, I just find it a bit hypocritical. Neither is expressly forbidden in the rules anywhere. And if we want to talk about intent, I suspect the festival would rather have neither of them.

But it ultimately boils down to "Rewarding effort is good, it should give you an advantage, up to the amount and type of effort I am willing to put in. After that, extra effort is bad or cheating and should be banned."

[DeanoL]

5 minutes ago, gfa said:

Its not like you can google glastonbury ticket helpers . com etc

Yet. I think we'll see it much more commercialised next year.

[clarkete]

1 minute ago, Nick_ said:

You were talking about friends.  As a (now) single man in my 60s, I have very few real friends, and none that I could impose this on.

I'm only a few years younger than you and have a small circle of friends in real life.  However I love the festival so I've spent far too many hours in here over the last couple of decades - as have many others (you can see in our post counts). 

Over that time in countless years, without any ip shenanigans complete strangers were kind enough to share advice which hugely helped - whether ticket suggestions, packing, food stalls, line up, whatever - as in some cases today people have provided you tips. 

During that time there are some people who have come to know and trust me and vice versa.  There are plenty who have rightly recognised that I'm a dodgy grumpy old git and want nothing to do with me, as in real life 😉. 

Some of those from the  first group have during a couple of years asked if we wanted to try for each other's tickets and we ended up in a spreadsheet and we'd try together.  I would find it hard to express how grateful I've been for their kindness on the couple of occasions they have helped. 

However the vast majority of years there were simply two of us trying and my sister or I bought two - in some cases even using iPad or phone on mobile signal.  You still  see plenty of folk saying that worked for them too, as there are also groups who have had limited success for some of their members every year (and we've experienced that too). 

Two points unrelated to your post:-

1.  Can't help feeling that whatever they do will impact the transaction charge in future, the more radical the solution, the more expensive to implement. 

2.  Pretty surprised that anyone thinks this festival would consider a non refundable fee merely for the chance of a ticket. 

[DeanoL]

Also I did just google "glastonbury ticket helper service" and the first result was Bark telling me that's a service they offer...

[gooner1990]

3 minutes ago, DeanoL said:

Also I did just google "glastonbury ticket helper service" and the first result was Bark telling me that's a service they offer...

Don't Sky News and BBC News produce '10 ways/tips to secure your Glastonbury tickets' articles each year?

[gigpusher]

4 minutes ago, clarkete said:

I'm only a few years younger than you and have a small circle of friends in real life.  However I love the festival so I've spent far too many hours in here over the last couple of decades - as have many others (you can see in our post counts). 

Over that time in countless years, without any ip shenanigans complete strangers were kind enough to share advice which hugely helped - whether ticket suggestions, packing, food stalls, line up, whatever - as in some cases today people have provided you tips. 

During that time there are some people who have come to know and trust me and vice versa.  There are plenty who have rightly recognised that I'm a dodgy grumpy old git and want nothing to do with me, as in real life 😉. 

Some of those from the  first group have during a couple of years asked if we wanted to try for each other's tickets and we ended up in a spreadsheet and we'd try together.  I would find it hard to express how grateful I've been for their kindness on the couple of occasions they have helped. 

However the vast majority of years there were simply two of us trying and my sister or I bought two - in some cases even using iPad or phone on mobile signal.  You still  see plenty of folk saying that worked for them too, as there are also groups who have had limited success for some of their members every year (and we've experienced that too). 

Two points unrelated to your post:-

1.  Can't help feeling that whatever they do will impact the transaction charge in future, the more radical the solution, the more expensive to implement. 

2.  Pretty surprised that anyone thinks this festival would consider a non refundable fee merely for the chance of a ticket. 

Every friend we have in life was a stranger until we took a chance on getting to know them!!

[BBC7BBCHEAVEN]

8 minutes ago, balti-pie said:

 

While demand outstrips supply people will be 'wanting to make it fair' but to be honest, fair only really means 'ensure i get a ticket'. 

Random opinion. Fair means a system where everyone has an equal chance, as much as practically possible.

It's been discussed at length on how the current system could be made fairer (unless you're of the opinion that large buying blocks aren't unfair)

[Dave_c]

34 minutes ago, Nick_ said:

What's your source of that 5% figure, and how are you defining "gaming"?

From this thread, which may not be representative, it sounds like most people "game" it.

No source other than a hunch. I don't think having big groups trying is gaming the system, it's more when people are IT savvy and can figure out back door links and all that stuff I don't understand! 

[butterwtjr]

2 hours ago, august1 said:

is there any moral difference in this IP lark from using a page monitoring tool for secret resales?

secret resales?

[Nick_]

Just now, Dave_c said:

No source other than a hunch. I don't think having big groups trying is gaming the system, it's more when people are IT savvy and can figure out back door links and all that stuff I don't understand! 

That kinda reads like "anything within *my* abilities is fair game, but anything I can't do isn't" 😉

[clarkete]

3 minutes ago, butterwtjr said:

secret resales?

They're not really a thing these days, but folk always ask. 

[DeanoL]

3 minutes ago, Dave_c said:

No source other than a hunch. I don't think having big groups trying is gaming the system, it's more when people are IT savvy and can figure out back door links and all that stuff I don't understand! 

I would say the skill required to gather and coordinate a group of 64 people to all work together is loads harder than the skill needed to mess around with the hosts file. I could teach most people the latter, including the theory behind it, in a half hour chat. 

Of course, reality is most people in big groups are not coordinating 64 people. One of the other 63 people is!

[gooner1990]

Just now, clarkete said:

They're not really a thing these days, but folk always ask. 

Not since 2016 I don't think.