Never flying EasyJ** again

[stephos83]

To be fair, it is not easyJet suing Easy Life, but rather Easy Group who own the "Easy" trademarks

[fullfathom5]

3 hours ago, Jay Pee said:

Can I bring it back on by observing Easy Life are f**kin shite.

Jordan's (keyboard player) previous band By The Rivers were bloody brilliant though!

[Pinhead]

7 hours ago, stuie said:

You can't beat jetting off to the sunshine.

Are you suggesting we should all just stay here and no one should explore the world that we live in? 

 

 

You wont need to soon, cos it will be 40C in the shade here in a few years time! That said, the majority of uneccesary flights remain with businesses which really dont need this any more with Teams, Zoom etc. Face to face meetings are rapidly becoming a nostalgic luxury activity...

[Crazyfool01]

13 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

You wont need to soon, cos it will be 40C in the shade here in a few years time! That said, the majority of uneccesary flights remain with businesses which really dont need this any more with Teams, Zoom etc. Face to face meetings are rapidly becoming a nostalgic luxury activity...

our beaches aren't quite the same .... full of sh*t 

[Pinhead]

7 minutes ago, Crazyfool01 said:

our beaches aren't quite the same .... full of sh*t 

That does'nt feel like justification - that feels like a straw man. At the end of the day if everyone baluks against the environmental cause the minute they are required to make some sort of change in their behavoir or some sort of sacrifice, then we are all f**ked!

[Pinhead]

If we want clean beaches then lets fight the water companies (and the ideology that let them get away with the polllution), not the argument that we should travel abroad or not because of the mess they made of the UK environment.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Pinhead

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

If we want clean beaches then lets fight the water companies (and the ideology that let them get away with the polllution), not the argument that we should travel abroad or not because of the mess they made of the UK environment.

I agree and haven't flown for about 10 years ...but can see why people wouldn't want to holiday here 

[Pinhead]

Yes I can see that too. But the luxury of that choice is now fading / questionable.

[stuie]

23 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

That does'nt feel like justification - that feels like a straw man. At the end of the day if everyone baluks against the environmental cause the minute they are required to make some sort of change in their behavoir or some sort of sacrifice, then we are all f**ked!

I don’t think it’s necessary to make people feel guilty for taking an annual holiday on a plane. Or indeed say you’ll sh*t in their bed. 

 

 

[Skip997]

56 minutes ago, Pinhead said:

That said, the majority of uneccesary flights remain with businesses which really dont need this any more with Teams, Zoom etc. Face to face meetings are rapidly becoming a nostalgic luxury activity...

This is what people need to wake up to.

All the blame being put on the general public, guilt tripped to hell, when it's big business and the rich doing most of the damage.

If people want to effect real change then stop buying uncessary disposible sh*t.

[Neil]

2 hours ago, fullfathom5 said:

Jordan's (keyboard player) previous band By The Rivers were bloody brilliant though!

thanks, didn't know it was him.

[Pinhead]

3 hours ago, stuie said:

I don’t think it’s necessary to make people feel guilty for taking an annual holiday on a plane. Or indeed say you’ll sh*t in their bed. 

 

 

Eh? Any sense of guilt or not is up to the individual. As for shitting in their bed as you say, eh? My opinion, and it is only an opinion, is that the years of high carbon cheap unfettered travel to remote parts of this planet since the 70s are unsustainable in the long run.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Pinhead said:

That does'nt feel like justification - that feels like a straw man. At the end of the day if everyone baluks against the environmental cause the minute they are required to make some sort of change in their behavoir or some sort of sacrifice, then we are all f**ked!

Then we are f**ked. People won't change their behaviour when they realise that even if the UK does makes net zero, it won't make the slightest difference to global emissions when India, China and the US continue to churn out Co2 at the rate they are.

Maybe sh*t in their beds Neil.

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

4 hours ago, Pinhead said:

 remain with businesses which really dont need this any more with Teams, Zoom etc. 

I was wondering about this recently. It occured to me because I have a friend who travels the world on business, week in, week out. I talked to him earlier, and he'd been to no less than 5 countries this week alone. In the back of my mind I already knew that I should raise your point with him, but hadn't committed myself to doing so. You mentioning it has given me the green light to ask him.

 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Yoghurt on a Stick said:

I was wondering about this recently. It occured to me because I have a friend who travels the world on business, week in, week out. I talked to him earlier, and he'd been to no less than 5 countries this week alone. In the back of my mind I already knew that I should raise your point with him, but hadn't committed myself to doing so. You mentioning it has given me the green light to ask him.

 

Not sure what your friend will say, but I've signed many more deals face to face over the last couple of years than I've done using Zoom or Teams.  They're useful tools for preliminary talks and to set the stage for the final deal, but you can't beat actually talking to the person face to face and to do that you need to travel. 

[danmarks]

Global emissions from china would come down drastically if people didnt buy plastic stuff or disposable fashion made in china and shipped here.  Also if every country barring china, india (and lets face it america) managed to get to net zero then that would be an approx 36percent reduction

[MrZigster]

On 10/5/2023 at 9:03 PM, Pinhead said:

My passport expired back in 2017. Never renewed.

Mine is also well out of date. Which is ironic given my four times a week commute ;) (This may possibly be an unwise confession).

_____

And then this thread got heavy...

6 hours ago, Pinhead said:

You wont need to soon, cos it will be 40C in the shade here in a few years time! That said, the majority of uneccesary flights remain with businesses which really dont need this any more with Teams, Zoom etc. Face to face meetings are rapidly becoming a nostalgic luxury activity...

Yeah. But. Capitalism requires you to commute to work and spend umpteen quid on a coffee and a snack etc. on your way 

 

6 hours ago, Skip997 said:

This is what people need to wake up to.

All the blame being put on the general public, guilt tripped to hell, when it's big business and the rich doing most of the damage.

If people want to effect real change then stop buying uncessary disposible sh*t.

6 hours ago, Pinhead said:

That does'nt feel like justification - that feels like a straw man. At the end of the day if everyone baluks against the environmental cause the minute they are required to make some sort of change in their behavoir or some sort of sacrifice, then we are all f**ked!

My commute (mentioned earlier) takes me past a few massive industrial factories. Spewing out sh*t from their chimneys. Stinks it does. One of them is only allowed to vent certain by-products if the wind is blowing in the right direction.

Like me sorting my plastic from my paper is making a dent compared to that.

Now, I know these are a bit of a Marmite band 'round these parts, but I think it's appropriate:

 

[Neil]

9 hours ago, stuie said:

I don’t think it’s necessary to make people feel guilty for taking an annual holiday on a plane. Or indeed say you’ll sh*t in their bed. 

i do think its necessary to make people feel guilty to change their behaviour. cos they're shitting in their bed, and in my bed, and your bed!!!! cos i don't want to sleep in your sh*t!!!!!

[t0paz]

The average flight is about 90kg of CO2 per person per hour.

Eating meat and dairy compared to being vegan is about 2 tonnes of CO2 per person per year.

So everyone saying people shouldn’t fly to save the planet have already gone Vegan, right?

The whole flight shaming crap is so unhelpful when the real issue is far more complicated and needs global government policies to make real change.

[Neil]

1 hour ago, t0paz said:

The average flight is about 90kg of CO2 per person per hour.

Eating meat and dairy compared to being vegan is about 2 tonnes of CO2 per person per year.

So everyone saying people shouldn’t fly to save the planet have already gone Vegan, right?

The whole flight shaming crap is so unhelpful when the real issue is far more complicated and needs global government policies to make real change.

Flying isn't required, eating is. So the vegan argument you give isn't the same ball park.

[t0paz]

5 minutes ago, Neil said:

Flying isn't required, eating is. So the vegan argument you give isn't the same ball park.

Of course it is. Eating meat and dairy is not a requirement at all

[Neil]

9 minutes ago, t0paz said:

Of course it is. Eating meat and dairy is not a requirement at all

It's how we're socialised into a necessary part of life . There's nothing necessary about flying to the other of the world.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

17 minutes ago, Neil said:

It's how we're socialised into a necessary part of life . There's nothing necessary about flying to the other of the world.

Do you drive or get transported around in cars/taxis/minibuses/coaches/buses, or other land vehicles? Even electric?

Do you eat beef, pork, chicken, butter, cheese, eggs, yoghurt, anything dairy or with gelatine in it?

Because those two things combined far outweigh plane use per year. It's all very well targeting planes because you see it as unnecessary, but if we want to get really sanctimonious, let's get rid of cars because people could cycle three hours to work, they could only eat bread and water. Planes is an easy target because they're huge and we're socialised to see them as decadent, but they're not nearly as bad as all the cars etc people are getting about in or the meat people are consuming.

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Anyway, to get back on topic, it does seem like Easy Life used easyJet planes and style for merch. If I was them, I'd use as much of the free publicity as possible, choose a name slightly different to the one now and get on with the music. 

[Neil]

It's easy to Knock the unnessessary I want extras out of your life to benefit others and the planet. Humans managed to exist for millions of years without flying.