Never flying EasyJ** again

[stuie]

16 minutes ago, Neil said:

It's how we're socialised into a necessary part of life . There's nothing necessary about flying to the other of the world.

It’s how you justify shitting in your own bed. 

My solar PV panels save about 0.9 tonnes of CO2 per year. My daily train commute saves 4kg per day when it would be easier to drive. I don’t have kids so that’s at least 10 tonnes a year absolute minimum per child. 

Take my annual flights CO2 from that.

 

 

[Neil]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

It’s how you justify shitting in your own bed. 

My solar PV panels save about 0.9 tonnes of CO2 per year. My daily train commute saves 4kg per day when it would be easier to drive. I don’t have kids so that’s at least 10 tonnes a year absolute minimum per child. 

Take my annual flights CO2 from that.

 

 

Well done for trying to do something useful, I'm simply suggesting others do the same by not flying.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Just now, Neil said:

It's easy to Knock the unnessessary I want extras out of your life to benefit others and the planet. Humans managed to exist for millions of years without flying.

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

Do you drive or get transported around in cars/taxis/minibuses/coaches/buses, or other land vehicles? Even electric?

Do you eat beef, pork, chicken, butter, cheese, eggs, yoghurt, anything dairy or with gelatine in it?

Because those two things combined far outweigh plane use per year. It's all very well targeting planes because you see it as unnecessary, but if we want to get really sanctimonious, let's get rid of cars because people could cycle three hours to work, they could only eat bread and water. Planes is an easy target because they're huge and we're socialised to see them as decadent, but they're not nearly as bad as all the cars etc people are getting about in or the meat people are consuming.

 

I'll confess to sometimes using vehicles, but some of use don't have the option of using our legs.

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

1 minute ago, Neil said:

Well done for trying to do something useful, I'm simply suggesting others do the same by not flying.

And everyone is just suggesting you should stop eating any meat or dairy, stop using cars too?

Because if you're still doing that, you're shitting in everyone's bed, clearly... more so than flyers.

Edited October 7, 2023 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

Farming produces more emissions than all cars, lorries, and vans in the whole EU bloc.

Both produce far more emissions than planes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/22/eu-farm-animals-produce-more-emissions-than-cars-and-vans-combined-greenpeace

Edited October 7, 2023 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

And everyone is just suggesting you should stop eating any meat or dairy, stop using cars too?

Because if you're still doing that, you're shitting in everyone's bed, clearly... more so than flyers.

 said about shitting the bed, when skippy said he didn't give a f**k about trying to do better. if we all take that attitude we're f**ked.

[Neil]

4 minutes ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

Farming produces more emissions than all cars, lorries, and vans in the whole EU bloc.

Both produce far more emissions than planes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/22/eu-farm-animals-produce-more-emissions-than-cars-and-vans-combined-greenpeace

as that shows - planes are by far the worst - Ii simply said i'm trying to do my bit by not choosing to do very damaging unnecessary things like flying , same as stuie did (anyone wanna tell him the carbon of his solar panels) -  cos i don't wanna be the muppet blaming china.

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Neil

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

New data just in. 

 

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

i asimply said i'm trying to do my bit, same as stuie did (anyone wanna tell him the carbon of his solar panels) -  cos i don't wanna be the muppet blaming china.

 

I’ll tell you… it worked out about 50g per kWh for about 20 months, then it’s neutral. 

Some people like travel, some people like meat, everyone likes electric. 

[Neil]

1 minute ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

New data just in. 

 

i run my computer's on solar. here's some more scarey new data

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66857354

Edited October 7, 2023 by Neil

[Neil]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66857354

[Neil]

hey, let's not vote tactically, other voters will only let the tories in!!!!!!

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, Neil said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66857354

Time to give up those chops. 

[Neil]

Just now, stuie said:

Time to give up those chops. 

why bother given other people attitudes., i'm gonna be china. 😛 

[MEGATRONICMEATWAGON]

13 minutes ago, Neil said:

as that shows - planes are by far the worst - Ii simply said i'm trying to do my bit by not choosing to do very damaging unnecessary things like flying , same as stuie did (anyone wanna tell him the carbon of his solar panels) -  cos i don't wanna be the muppet blaming china.

 

From my perspective, I don't see it as being that bad if people want to fly one or two times a year. If they don't eat a lot of meat, don't drive or own a car, then they offset that.

Depends on your definition of necessary.

I don't see cars as being necessary - haven't owned one for about 14 years and even then I only had that one for two years (I'm 38 fwiw). I don't see eating meat every day as necessary. Or bringing a coffee machine to Glastonbury with a bazillion battery packs to power it.

I do however fly about 2-3 times a year back to the UK to see family and I'm okay with that.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by MEGATRONICMEATWAGON

[Neil]

My Life saving medication prolly has big carbon, but it'll less thancremation or decomposing 

[Neil]

43 minutes ago, stuie said:

I’ll tell you… it worked out about 50g per kWh for about 20 months, then it’s neutral. 

Some people like travel, some people like meat, everyone likes electric. 

And some people don't like to think too hard.

[charlierc]

Pretty much every advert I've got on this site since I logged on has been for airlines - the dreaded easyJet themselves, plus Wizz and vueling. How's that for a coincidence?

[charlierc]

On 10/5/2023 at 1:18 PM, Cherry Tree said:

I would normally agree, but I don’t think it is purely the name Easy Life, it was the tour poster and some of their merchandise.

 

I'm surprised in retrospect that the Easy Group didn't protest this before. Though I thought there was a thing about them trying to set up a retailer called Easy Life. Much as it's sh*t as who's confusing a band for an airline?

Apparently they've also taken this habit of litigation for more strange ideas, like this 2018 story about a Netflix sitcom called Easy leading to a call: Netflix sued by easyJet founder in trademark dispute | easyJet | The Guardian

[northernangel]

1 hour ago, stuie said:

Time to give up those chops. 

Nah, it's much better to constantly just moan about everything lol. Just moan and then confess to using a car that constantly polutes by actually running.

1 hour ago, Neil said:

why bother given other people attitudes., i'm gonna be china. 😛 

Coronavirus only becomes a heavier issue during certain parts of the year, you're here all year round unfortunately with the worst attitude which is hugely ironic to talk others attitudes.

Take advice from Pete Davidson now, being on medication doesn't entitle you to be a jackass!

[stuie]

1 hour ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

From my perspective, I don't see it as being that bad if people want to fly one or two times a year. If they don't eat a lot of meat, don't drive or own a car, then they offset that.

Depends on your definition of necessary.

I don't see cars as being necessary - haven't owned one for about 14 years and even then I only had that one for two years (I'm 38 fwiw). I don't see eating meat every day as necessary. Or bringing a coffee machine to Glastonbury with a bazillion battery packs to power it.

I do however fly about 2-3 times a year back to the UK to see family and I'm okay with that.

 

 

For the sake of the environment you should stay there and eat meat and talk to your family on FaceTime only forever more. 

[Neil]

6 minutes ago, northernangel said:

Nah, it's much better to constantly just moan about everything

 if i was doing that you'd have a point, here people like you are complaining about me doing something to your benefit.

[Neil]

16 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm surprised in retrospect that the Easy Group didn't protest this before. Though I thought there was a thing about them trying to set up a retailer called Easy Life. Much as it's sh*t as who's confusing a band for an airline?

Apparently they've also taken this habit of litigation for more strange ideas, like this 2018 story about a Netflix sitcom called Easy leading to a call: Netflix sued by easyJet founder in trademark dispute | easyJet | The Guardian

think it might be the possibility of future bad publicity that concerns easy-group, a headline worded in a particular way might have bad effect.

[Neil]

41 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Pretty much every advert I've got on this site since I logged on has been for airlines - the dreaded easyJet themselves, plus Wizz and vueling. How's that for a coincidence?

not a coincidence, its a demonstration of technology working as its meant to work

 

addressing climate change will require lifestyle changes from all of us, giving up flying is the easiest change to make ( i've got 25 years of not flying to my carbon credit).