2025 Headliners

[Avalon_Fields]

16 minutes ago, The Nal said:

Rhianna is in London this week

At the Fenty Hair event. No apparent pen visible for signing contracts 

[Crazyfool01]

Hair today … gone tomorrow 

[Yoghurt on a Stick]

 

Only just seen this. Apologies if it's already been posted and discussed

 

https://metro.co.uk/2024/09/18/massive-00s-rock-band-now-favourite-headline-glastonbury-first-time-21631069

[NorthernSoul52]

On 8/30/2024 at 10:10 PM, Superscally said:

...and Nick Cave is now nailed on.

A man can dream.

 

I drift in and out of these threads like the seas, so I have some catching up to do.

[NorthernSoul52]

16 hours ago, MEGATRONICMEATWAGON said:

I'm loving all the hypothetical trios that could be mixed together between heritage or new stars, all different genres, something for everyone.

 

Fred/Rihanna/Green Day

 

Fender/O-Rod/Stevie W

 

Bruce/Eminem/Lady Gaga

 

Dave/Oasis/Madonna

Always my favourite way to approach. Know I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but you want:

 

Friday: Your rising star, with a commercial breakthrough. Arena-filling, with some currency, and preferably homegrown. (Sam Fender / Dave / The 1975.)

 

Saturday: Your modern-day chartfiller, with multi-night arena or stadium pedigree to match, capable of packing them in. (Harry Styles / Rihanna / Lady Gaga.)

 

Sunday: Your heritage headliner. Likely still a multi-night arena or stadium artist, but one who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades and can work an all-ages crowd like seasoned pros. (Madonna / Green Day / Billy Joel.)

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

A man can dream.

 

I drift in and out of these threads like the seas, so I have some catching up to do.

 

I know chart positions aren't everything, but quite surprised by how badly Wild God has flopped.  In at #5 for one week and then sunk like a stone.  I thought physical sales would have kept him buoyant but clearly not.

[NorthernSoul52]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

I know chart positions aren't everything, but quite surprised by how badly Wild God has flopped.  In at #5 for one week and then sunk like a stone.  I thought physical sales would have kept him buoyant but clearly not.

Yeah, I'm disappointed - though had Oasis not reunited, it would have been at #2 and probably more close-run.

 

The lack of longevity maybe suggests that people have reached the stage where they want to see him as a "hits" artist - but the sales for the First Direct Arena show in Leeds were really slow last time I looked. Kind of gutting.

[balti-pie]

4 hours ago, nikkic said:

a mate of mine has never lived down the quote “The Kooks are the most important band since The Libertines”.

 

 

😄 

i love it when people describe bands or artists as 'important' -  really? bloody hell, its music! its fun, its enjoyment, hedonism, its all of that quote by mardy up there - dont take it seriously or you end up with hideous boring Pink Floyd serious nonsense! As soon as an artist becomes 'important' they lose any and all of their appeal! 

[CaledonianGonzo]

9 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Yeah, I'm disappointed - though had Oasis not reunited, it would have been at #2 and probably more close-run.

 

The lack of longevity maybe suggests that people have reached the stage where they want to see him as a "hits" artist - but the sales for the First Direct Arena show in Leeds were really slow last time I looked. Kind of gutting.

 

Yeah - the Hydro looks like it's struggling as well.  Seems the bubble has burst on the wee groundswell he had a few years back and he hasn't quite crossed over to the Dylan / Cohen Mojo boomers market the way some thought he would.  Coupled with turning off a chunk of his OG fanbase with his reactionary politics it's fair to say he's sliding back into the sort of position where even Other Headliner is a bit of a leg up.

[CharlotteB]

4 hours ago, Alex DeLarge said:

Depends what you're looking for. His music has two sides really. The moody, introspective, James Blake influenced stuff and then the big, feelgood 'hugging your mates' tracks. If you're looking for something that's fairly easy-going and light, his music is perfect. He samples voice-notes by his friends, instagram lives, stuff like that.

I'm not a massive fan of Fred, but some of his tracks are pretty good. 

 

 

 

 

That's probably where to start if you are actually interested.

 

Thank you. I will get round to having a good listen to make my own mind up 👍👍

[scatteredscreens]

32 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Yeah - the Hydro looks like it's struggling as well.  Seems the bubble has burst on the wee groundswell he had a few years back and he hasn't quite crossed over to the Dylan / Cohen Mojo boomers market the way some thought he would.  Coupled with turning off a chunk of his OG fanbase with his reactionary politics it's fair to say he's sliding back into the sort of position where even Other Headliner is a bit of a leg up.

 

Don't think it has much of an impact really. His festival slots in Europe (which I would guess are happening) will already have been locked in place. As would any Glastonbury bookings. He's sold out a night at the O2 and added another so it's not as if nobody is turning up. Leeds sales are probably down due to a Manchester show also being on sale, so for Northern fans (not inc Scotland obviously) sales will be split between the two.

[Ben7amin_]

58 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said:

Always my favourite way to approach. Know I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but you want:

 

Friday: Your rising star, with a commercial breakthrough. Arena-filling, with some currency, and preferably homegrown. (Sam Fender / Dave / The 1975.)

 

Saturday: Your modern-day chartfiller, with multi-night arena or stadium pedigree to match, capable of packing them in. (Harry Styles / Rihanna / Lady Gaga.)

 

Sunday: Your heritage headliner. Likely still a multi-night arena or stadium artist, but one who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades and can work an all-ages crowd like seasoned pros. (Madonna / Green Day / Billy Joel.)

 

Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news............. (dramatic Pause) 

 

This sentence.    "who has the catalogue that spans back more than two decades". 

 

I hate to say this now could include Lady Gaga & Rihanna - Times arrow is relentless 

 

 

Edited September 20 by Ben7amin_

[Mardy]

Yeah, Nick Cave hasn't really burst through to the mainstream. Unlikely to hear his stuff on the radio, not sure his fanbase is growing, if anything maybe contracting slightly (as per Calgon's earlier post). Every time I go on social media, I get adverts for the tour/album.

 

I used to love NC but the last few albums have been relentlessly hard work for me. They're clearly as Molesworth would say 'advanced, forthright, signifficant', but do they ever make me want to rush home from work to put one one as son as I burst through the door? No, they do not. Listening to anything by him from the last 10 years feels a bit like doing your homework.

 

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Must admit I haven't really felt the urge to put the album back on since the first weekend.  Might give it another bash now.

[Superscally]

53 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Must admit I haven't really felt the urge to put the album back on since the first weekend.  Might give it another bash now.

I've had it on a bit. Corker.

[Avalon_Fields]

I’m really enjoying Wild God, but always viewed him as having a highly selective appeal so not surprised he’s not doing so well on ticket sales, he’ll never be a Glastonbury headliner in my opinion.

[ghostdancer1]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:29 PM, Ben7amin_ said:

 

You might want to Google RHCP and Glastonbury 1993 before making that statement........

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

[nikkic]

2 hours ago, Mardy said:

Yeah, Nick Cave hasn't really burst through to the mainstream. Unlikely to hear his stuff on the radio, not sure his fanbase is growing, if anything maybe contracting slightly (as per Calgon's earlier post). Every time I go on social media, I get adverts for the tour/album.

 

I used to love NC but the last few albums have been relentlessly hard work for me. They're clearly as Molesworth would say 'advanced, forthright, signifficant', but do they ever make me want to rush home from work to put one one as son as I burst through the door? No, they do not. Listening to anything by him from the last 10 years feels a bit like doing your homework.

 

 

This is why he’s melting into obscurity whilst Fred Again, with his joyful beats, continues to thrive. 
 

Some people make music people love, others make music that hurts your head and makes you want to stick a fork into your face for some light relief. 

[incident]

9 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

 

Michael has outright said that it did. And even before that, there was the story that the festival turned them down in 2005 when they offered to step in for Kylie.

[CaledonianGonzo]

1 minute ago, incident said:

 

Michael has outright said that it did. And even before that, there was the story that the festival turned them down in 2005 when they offered to step in for Kylie.

Still 20 odd years ago - and I genuinely dunno if Michael would have veto power over any booking that Emily would want to make.

 

Which is to say, I assume that the main reason they're not being booked isn't what went down a long time back, but due to how bad it would be.

[Ben7amin_]

16 minutes ago, ghostdancer1 said:

I'm aware of it. It likely has zero relevance on them being booked or not in the last 20-odd years.

 

Michael Eavis says they are banned from Glastonbury as they straight up did not turn up and to this day have never explained it or apologised  - he repeats this all the time -- it has 100% relevance to why they are not booked.   At his talk on the Acoustic stage in 2019 he said they are not allowed on site even if they get tickets 

Edited September 20 by Ben7amin_

[CaledonianGonzo]

4 minutes ago, nikkic said:

This is why he’s melting into obscurity whilst Fred Again, with his joyful beats, continues to thrive. 
 

Some people make music people love, others make music that hurts your head and makes you want to stick a fork into your face for some light relief. 

 

Nick Cave melting into a puddle like the Wicked Witch of the West at the end of the Wizard of Oz.

 

Except what caused it wasn't plain old water but instead people's ongoing exposure to his sh*tty politics.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Ben7amin_ said:

 

Michael Eavis says they are banned from Glastonbury as they straight up did not turn up and to this day have never explained it or apologised  - he repeats this all the time -- it has 100% relevance to why they are not booked 

 

Any recent quotes?

[Ben7amin_]

Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Any recent quotes?

Lol I was still editing check the comment you replied to again

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Just now, Ben7amin_ said:

Lol I was still editing check the comment you replied to again

 

 

Fair enough.  That's recent enough.  I support Michael in this tbf.