stuie Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM 17 minutes ago, Nobby's Old Boots said: I promise you I'm not the only one bored to death of the same handful of people coming in to say EXACTLY the same thing. I'm not missing the point of anything. It's a headliners thread about a festival whose headliners haven't been announced yet, so people come here to enjoy speculating. It's beyond tiring to have the same smug posts from both sides. Can't we set up a new thread where the usual suspects can hash it out over sources, what's confirmed, what isn't, so those of us who want to avoid it can stay out? Hold on... people previously posted 'locked' information before it was locked and you expect no one to mention that? On the headliners thread, when it's been confirmed it only was at the early discussion (rumour) stage? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted Thursday at 03:52 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:52 PM Reminder … can we go back to the topic of headliners please . Despite the conjecture over info and the like that is why most people are reading this thread . Thanks all and happy new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
across97 Posted Thursday at 04:01 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:01 PM From a commercial perspective, I don't think Emily would like to have 2 consecutive years of criticism towards a line up or headliners. Ticket prices are ever rising, and expectations are higher than ever. I don't think the popularity of the festival will ever diminish but that sort of scrutinty would rather be avoided. The only time, in my opinion, should you promote from below is if someone cancels last minute a la Foos in 2015, and/or you've been able to get someone booked as sub who have taken a slot below their usual festival standings (Paramore as a possible example this year). There's enough time to speak to acts now, and speak to someone who sets Glasto apart from the rest of the festivals in UK/Europe, which was always the case 10 or so years ago. A line up of O-Rod, 1975, Muse/Pulp/Charli XCX/Sam Fender heck even Paramore, is a weak trio I think, and doesn't stand out from any festival across Europe. Purely because its missing the name that Glasto used to get and would raise eyebrows (Stones, Elton John, Radiohead, Adele). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyfool01 Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM 1 minute ago, across97 said: From a commercial perspective, I don't think Emily would like to have 2 consecutive years of criticism towards a line up or headliners. Ticket prices are ever rising, and expectations are higher than ever. I don't think the popularity of the festival will ever diminish but that sort of scrutinty would rather be avoided. The only time, in my opinion, should you promote from below is if someone cancels last minute a la Foos in 2015, and/or you've been able to get someone booked as sub who have taken a slot below their usual festival standings (Paramore as a possible example this year). There's enough time to speak to acts now, and speak to someone who sets Glasto apart from the rest of the festivals in UK/Europe, which was always the case 10 or so years ago. A line up of O-Rod, 1975, Muse/Pulp/Charli XCX/Sam Fender heck even Paramore, is a weak trio I think, and doesn't stand out from any festival across Europe. Purely because its missing the name that Glasto used to get and would raise eyebrows (Stones, Elton John, Radiohead, Adele). Also headed into a fallow year … don’t know if that gets amplified or forgotten about . Hoping for something out the blue as curently unusually for me I doubt I’ll be at the pointy one headliner time which is a shame as I love it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkyJoe Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM 35 minutes ago, cgall said: I think my problem is this - they're a medium fest sized act nowadays. I'd be very underwhelmed glasto was sharing headliners with the likes of Tramlines. They may well be a medium size act these days but Pulp headlining would be mobbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneCircle Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM 1 minute ago, MilkyJoe said: They may well be a medium size act these days but Pulp headlining would be mobbed. I would definitely be there, I have never seen Pulp, which is shocking on my part as I was born in Sheffield and lived there until 2014! 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted Thursday at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:31 PM Would there be a bigger crowd for Pulp than for Neil Young? ..discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted Thursday at 04:33 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:33 PM 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: Would there be a bigger crowd for Pulp than for Neil Young? ..discuss. By some distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneCircle Posted Thursday at 04:37 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:37 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Would there be a bigger crowd for Pulp than for Neil Young? ..discuss. Without a shadow of a doubt, the Oasis reunion tour has attracted a lot of new interest in Britpop. It would be a great booking as a headliner on the Pyramid Stage. Edited Thursday at 04:37 PM by StoneCircle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgall Posted Thursday at 04:39 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:39 PM 18 minutes ago, MilkyJoe said: They may well be a medium size act these days but Pulp headlining would be mobbed. certainly among the efests crowd, but as for the general population, im not so sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM 5 minutes ago, StoneCircle said: Without a shadow of a doubt, the Oasis reunion tour has attracted a lot of new interest in Britpop. It would be a great booking as a headliner on the Pyramid Stage. Yep. Common People, Disco 2000, Do You Remember The First Time, all moments waiting to happen. Plus it’ll be 30 years since they last headlined. Get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:45 PM 8 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Would there be a bigger crowd for Pulp than for Neil Young? ..discuss. Yes, and tbh it wouldn't be that close. It's difficult to determine an "average" these days, given we've seen both all-time extremes in the past couple festivals, but Pulp should easily meet and probably exceed whatever the "average" currently is. NY would have been respectable, but still a fair way short of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM Now its news hahah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moobles Posted Thursday at 04:51 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:51 PM 19 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Would there be a bigger crowd for Pulp than for Neil Young? ..discuss. Definitely! I say this as a fan of both. I was planning to go to Neil Young on my own. If Pulp play my entire friend group would be there with me. They know the big Pulp hits and it would be a great singalong. Saw them in Sheffield a few years back and it was a proper party atmosphere. I think they could do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted Thursday at 04:54 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:54 PM Proper Glastonbury band - exactly what’s needed in a year when their two fellow headliners are younger skewing. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted Thursday at 04:56 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:56 PM 8 minutes ago, Suprefan said: Now its news hahah Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted Thursday at 05:03 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:03 PM I went in 95 but missed Pulp for some reason....so would be nice to finally get to see them at Glastonbury, unless I manage to miss them for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamm Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Pulp would absolutely smash it and should definitely considered viable. The lads would give it their all. Though the question remains if Pulp was already booked or not….. Would you rather Pulp stayed where they’re at (whether that be a sub, secret set or whatever placement) and we get another headliner booked (whether that be Muse or whoever)? or Would you rather Pulp gets bumped to headliner and someone then replaced them in their original theoretical slot / it just gets another bump or vanishes? For me I guess it depends on who the “new” headliner booking would be, would love them to be bumped to Headliner and think they’d knock it out of the park. But to get them else where and then another headliner would be great. Regarding Muse, said it before but it would be uninspiring. And I love Muse. Seen them headline, and seen their stadium/arena shows a handful of times. I’d absolutely be down in the pit loving it but I’m more than open to others instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:23 PM A degree of interest to mull - how many other artists would be ruled out by the BBC must-show-in-full clause that is (seemingly) the stumbling block for Neil Young? If that was a clause stuck in during the pandemic, might figure that Taylor Swift could have balked at that, for example. Think a plethora of your American mega-pop acts - Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna - would also balk at the request, along with a few of the older rock acts. Not sure Springsteen would consent to a full show, for example - or at the very least, Jon Landau would be issuing big compensation demands for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incident Posted Thursday at 05:26 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:26 PM 1 minute ago, NorthernSoul52 said: A degree of interest to mull - how many other artists would be ruled out by the BBC must-show-in-full clause that is (seemingly) the stumbling block for Neil Young? If that was a clause stuck in during the pandemic, might figure that Taylor Swift could have balked at that, for example. Think a plethora of your American mega-pop acts - Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna - would also balk at the request, along with a few of the older rock acts. Not sure Springsteen would consent to a full show, for example - or at the very least, Jon Landau would be issuing big compensation demands for it. I don't think it's necessarily "in full". It doesn't specify either way in the excerpt of the document that I posted, but elsewhere it refers (in passing) to "an agreed part of" the performance being broadcast without defining what that means. So I suspect that part at least would be in the negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted Thursday at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:31 PM 4 minutes ago, incident said: I don't think it's necessarily "in full". It doesn't specify either way in the excerpt of the document that I posted, but elsewhere it refers (in passing) to "an agreed part of" the performance being broadcast without defining what that means. So I suspect that part at least would be in the negotiations. Oh, I thought it was the whole shebang these days. Forgive me. Either way, Young doing himself no favours here, I'd argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judyblue110 Posted Thursday at 05:34 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:34 PM 1 minute ago, NorthernSoul52 said: Oh, I thought it was the whole shebang these days. Forgive me. Either way, Young doing himself no favours here, I'd argue. How so? He sold all the rights to his music a few years ago - he doesn't need the money or the exposure. How has this decision adversely impacted him? It follows the pattern of his entire career, if anything it reinforces the fact that he sticks to his beliefs and maintains integrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcok Posted Thursday at 05:34 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:34 PM My initial thought was that Stevie would get the call but who knows. Pulp would be good, Muse would be.. just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose-Colored Boy Posted Thursday at 05:36 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:36 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, NorthernSoul52 said: A degree of interest to mull - how many other artists would be ruled out by the BBC must-show-in-full clause that is (seemingly) the stumbling block for Neil Young? If that was a clause stuck in during the pandemic, might figure that Taylor Swift could have balked at that, for example. Think a plethora of your American mega-pop acts - Gaga, Beyonce, Rihanna - would also balk at the request, along with a few of the older rock acts. Not sure Springsteen would consent to a full show, for example - or at the very least, Jon Landau would be issuing big compensation demands for it. Kendrick had his full set shown having previously refused to agree to that at Reading and Leeds, so I’d expect most people to be flexible in the same way. The Weeknd would be an interesting one if he ever played - he refused to have his set at Big Weekend televised, albeit several years ago now. Edited Thursday at 05:38 PM by Rose-Colored Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkic Posted Thursday at 05:54 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:54 PM 19 minutes ago, mufcok said: My initial thought was that Stevie would get the call but who knows. Pulp would be good, Muse would be.. just no. There’s nothing to indicate he’s about though, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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