2025 Headliners

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, westjungle12 said:

 

No chance they put on Charli and 1975 on the same night / same time. 1975 drummer and her are dating - I'm sure they'll want to support each other.

 

Why not - or is it only 'normal' people who both work in different jobs at the same time?

[CaledonianGonzo]

A big gig at Glastonbury is exactly the kind of show someone like Loyle Carner would do as a one-off.

[Ben7amin_]

I did a little back track to try and find the original "info' this is what I came up with - i have not been on these forums long enough to know if BSR is one of the  people in the know or not 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Ben7amin_

[wro_lap]

2 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

A big gig at Glastonbury is exactly the kind of show someone like Loyle Carner would do as a one-off.

Very true - although I can't help but wonder whether they'd book him as their first choice. He seems like a tap-in to book if someone pulls out/no one that size is available

Edited 10 hours ago by wro_lap

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 minutes ago, wro_lap said:

Very true - although I can't help but wonder whether they'd book him as their first choice. He seems like a tap-in to book if someone pulls out/no one that size is available

 

There are some artists that just seem to get promoted up the ranks on a semi-regular basis. Stormzy, Simz, Fontaines, Carner.

 

Probably folk like Dizzee Rascal and Florence also were back in the day.

[gfa]

56 minutes ago, Superscally said:

I'd say the scales tipped very soon after booking, but IDLES had a bigger crowd. I was at both, by the way...

I think to some extent the central location of IDLES may have helped them perhaps. Impossible to argue it though so no point bothering 😄 

 

55 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

Sure - I understand that there's info for both nights.

 

I just don't think the fact she's married to the 1975's drummer means they can't clash.  If anything it could make a clash more likely.

She makes far more sense against Neil Young than The 1975!

 

Also why on earth does it make it more likely 😂 you got inside gossip they are having spat at the moment?

[gfa]

30 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said:

I did a little back track to try and find the original "info' this is what I came up with - i have not been on these forums long enough to know if BSR is one of the  people in the know or not 

 

 

This is off discord

 

Brave Sir Robin (BSR) is an excellent source who's given great info for a good few years, mostly on BST but also glasto + elsewhere

[CaledonianGonzo]

3 minutes ago, gfa said:

She makes far more sense against Neil Young than The 1975!

 

Also why on earth does it make it more likely 😂 you got inside gossip they are having spat at the moment?

 

The Dua Lipa Strategy - both work the Friday night and then party together the rest of the weekend,

[gfa]

Just now, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

The Dua Lipa Strategy - both work the Friday night and then party together the rest of the weekend,

Or the logical sense category - work on different nights and watch eachother's sets.

[CaledonianGonzo]

We're back to the 'do you show up at your partner's work'? question.

 

Obviously it's different, but equally they've probably seen each other's show umpteen times.

[CaledonianGonzo]

If my other half was clashing with Neil Young I'd be warming up the air-guitar for going f**king mental to Like A Hurricane.

[Skip997]

1 hour ago, GhostOfMaurice said:

 

Funny you should say ghost town, because he said he wandered to a stage where Neville Staple was playing and apparently there was barely anyone watching.

Avalon

 

I wondered in there after Rudimental, but it was far too much of an “alcohol vibe” for me, so off to the Temple for some proper vibes 

[gfa]

30 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

We're back to the 'do you show up at your partner's work'? question.

 

Obviously it's different, but equally they've probably seen each other's show umpteen times.

Maybe being peak efests here but for the 1975 its not just another show (charli xcx maybe less so).

 

Its the biggest show they can possibly do in their home country - its a fairly big occasion. They also have no tour dates currently and could defo be their only show of the year, with new staging or something too.

 

For the other way towards Charli XCX it is just another show though - defo

[CaledonianGonzo]

I mean - I obviously dunno.  I just don't think it's wildly unlikely that they'd opt to do the Friday and then chill for the remainder of the fest.

 

Waste of a night imho to stand stage-side and watch the back of your husband's head.

 

Obviously for a random punter then stage-side access, etc would be a huge W - but for folk like that who've played 100s of festivals it probably loses its lustre after a while.

[Jamm]

44 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

I mean - I obviously dunno.  I just don't think it's wildly unlikely that they'd opt to do the Friday and then chill for the remainder of the fest.

 

Waste of a night imho to stand stage-side and watch the back of your husband's head.

 

Obviously for a random punter then stage-side access, etc would be a huge W - but for folk like that who've played 100s of festivals it probably loses its lustre after a while.

While both have played 100s of festivals and venues, and also been stage-side to watch others I think this instance is a bit different.

 

There’s a bit of distance between them due to both being touring artists, so imagine they’d still want to watch each other’s headline sets at Glastonbury.

 

I don’t think it’s a massive make or break deal, they could both do the Friday, or one does Friday one does Saturday. Everyone is probably putting far more thought into this than they have.

 

I think we’ve had initial information that it was Charli Saturday, and 1975 Friday. And then someone else chimed in with Charli Friday.

 

Long drivel aside, I think they’d like to watch each other but that won’t be the deciding factor when they perform.

[stuie]

Love that people on here have possibly discussed this more than Charli and George have at this point 🙂 

 

 

[CaledonianGonzo]

Yep. I definitely cba saying any more on the subject.

[gfa]

11 minutes ago, stuie said:

Love that people on here have possibly discussed this more than Charli and George have at this point 🙂 

 

 

Exactly this

 

George is 1/4 (or 1/5?) of the 1975.

 

Both acts probably just got given a date that made sense and you'd think if EE even considered it, she'd probably put them on differnet days to completely remove the chance of any potential issue.

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, gfa said:

Exactly this

 

George is 1/4 (or 1/5?) of the 1975.

 

Both acts probably just got given a date that made sense and you'd think if EE even considered it, she'd probably put them on differnet days to completely remove the chance of any potential issue.

 

 

It'll probably come up at breakfast one day.. "hey babe, what you up to this week" "oh got a couple of interviews, a photo shoot and we're playing glasto" "oh me toooooo... what day you playing?" 🤣

[NorthernSoul52]

"Pass us the jam, George, and by the way, I can't come see you play the biggest show of your life. I've got to draw the crowd away from you so Matthew feels even more like his dreams have been robbed."

[MEGABOWL]

3 hours ago, westjungle12 said:

 

No chance they put on Charli and 1975 on the same night / same time. 1975 drummer and her are dating - I'm sure they'll want to support each other.

Don’t see why not. Play the gig and go out together after. Makes a lot of sense. I doubt they’re daft enough to complain about the nights they’re getting offered to headline the biggest stages at one of the worlds biggest festivals.

[Spindles]

2 hours ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

 

There are some artists that just seem to get promoted up the ranks on a semi-regular basis. Stormzy, Simz, Fontaines, Carner.

Simz nailed her sub-headline spot last year, but I completely agree.  Similarly the Other stage has a lot of form for mis-judging some higher slot bookings and seeing small crowds at times that you'd expect two or three times as many people in the field.

[tomf3]

3 minutes ago, Spindles said:

Simz nailed her sub-headline spot last year, but I completely agree.  Similarly the Other stage has a lot of form for mis-judging some higher slot bookings and seeing small crowds at times that you'd expect two or three times as many people in the field.

This is true but in fairness to the bookers it does seem to be pretty unpredictable at times. Megan thee Stallion had a decent sized crowd up against Paul McCartney, whereas the following year Wizkid was completely dead up against Arctic Monkeys. I guess it's not just about Pyramid vs Other, but everything else that's going on that might pull people away (that would be out of the main stage bookers control).

[Spindles]

Yeah, I saw neither Wizkid nor Arctic Monkeys that night, better entertainment elsewhere yet I cannot for the life of me remember what that was now.

 

Statistically I see more headliners at Other than Pyramid, and those 2 stages have made up about 50% of my headliners over 25 years.  When I was first going almost everything I saw was across those 2, but these days I'd be as likely to end up at Avalon, West Holts or Woodsies.

 

Last year was famously some of the most egregious examples of bad planning of the bookings for the stages, 2022 had similar issues.  Glastonbury evolves though, and with great efficiency, so I'm confident that the occasional botched booking will remain just that.

[tomf3]

3 minutes ago, Spindles said:

Yeah, I saw neither Wizkid nor Arctic Monkeys that night, better entertainment elsewhere yet I cannot for the life of me remember what that was now.

 

Statistically I see more headliners at Other than Pyramid, and those 2 stages have made up about 50% of my headliners over 25 years.  When I was first going almost everything I saw was across those 2, but these days I'd be as likely to end up at Avalon, West Holts or Woodsies.

 

Last year was famously some of the most egregious examples of bad planning of the bookings for the stages, 2022 had similar issues.  Glastonbury evolves though, and with great efficiency, so I'm confident that the occasional botched booking will remain just that.

Yeah last year was as bad as I can remember in that regard. Amy Winehouse into Jay-Z was another one that stands out and led to a major crush.
Not that I think it was responsible but I remember a few years back Emily saying that they were going to be a lot more dynamic with bookings and if someone took off since being booked, they would shift the stages around to avoid any major issues. In theory that sounds good, but I wonder how well it would go down with an act being booked for a bigger stage (at glastonbury's famously cheap rate) and then downgraded to a smaller stage/slot. They could outright refuse depending on the wording of their contracts etc. meaning glastonbury just has to suck it up and hope for the best