2025 Headliners

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

23 minutes ago, Talcroft said:

Charli, Chappelle and Sabrina for Primavera - they've gone full pop trend.

 

Certainly appears to be a shift in music policy, although some might argue that they've been edging closer to this every year, post-COVID. 

 

People still can't get their heads around the fact that festivals evolve. It's like they want to freeze time to suit their taste.

[stuie]

42 minutes ago, foolee said:

People seem to be forgetting music is subjective in this thread 

 

Not only that, people want a bit of fun - nostalgia acts can be a bit sh*t but a lot of fun. 

 

 

[RedJosh]

4 hours ago, AVALON.G said:

 

 

Yeah, I would suggest that Download would have heard from MCR lawyers if they had been teased just to sell tickets. It seems obvious that they were intended to play at the time they were hinted. 

 

I think we have to assume they were in the frame to play last year and Greenday are in the frame for download this year. 

Sorry wasn't clear, MCR and Green Day had both agreed to play 2025, the post about the new Download Dog was made in June of this year and people assumed it was a hint that they were the secret band, but it was actually because Download thought they had them for 2025 (it had been agreed for months).

[henry bear]

1 hour ago, stuie said:

 

The 'estimated' number that's always referred to is 250,000 in 2000, the year of Bowie. 

If I had a time machine, I'd be popping along to that one to see for myself! 

I wasn't there that year but was in 1999. Once you got onto the site they stamped your hand with ink that showed up under UV light - and that was it. Needless to say enterprising souls outside the fence were stamping ticketless punters for a modest fee, leading to the festival site being rammed everywhere you went.

[gfa]

15 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

Certainly appears to be a shift in music policy, although some might argue that they've been edging closer to this every year, post-COVID. 

 

People still can't get their heads around the fact that festivals evolve. It's like they want to freeze time to suit their taste.

They have been doing huge lineups the past few years - not even surely who they could have actually replaced one of them with.

 

All the options i'd like have done it in 2022 and 2023!

 

Radiohead perhaps? but may not even be about

Edited October 24 by gfa

[Ben7amin_]

48 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

Certainly appears to be a shift in music policy, although some might argue that they've been edging closer to this every year, post-COVID. 

 

People still can't get their heads around the fact that festivals evolve. It's like they want to freeze time to suit their taste.

 

and for those who won't they should probably just go here instead of Glastonbury lol 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

1 minute ago, gfa said:

They have been doing huge lineups the past few years - not even surely who they could have actually replaced one of them with.

 

All the options i'd like have done it in 2022 and 2023!

 

Bar the odd exception for whatever reason, when it's within their control, most of the big global festival brands very rarely get it wrong. 

 

Prima has three very popular and "current" artists headlining, but I'd also accept the argument that in comparison to years gone by, they're weaker in terms of stature. For me, it just lends further potential emphasis that the big ticket artists are now leaning more towards their own shows as opposed to the festival circuit. Unless festival organisers match or surpass the fees of their own tour shows. Maybe that's just the way it's headed?

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

2 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said:

 

and for those who won't they should probably just go here instead of Glastonbury lol 

 

Phwoooaarr, plug it into my 47 year old veins!

[northernangel]

2 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

Bar the odd exception for whatever reason, when it's within their control, most of the big global festival brands very rarely get it wrong. 

 

Prima has three very popular and "current" artists headlining, but I'd also accept the argument that in comparison to years gone by, they're weaker in terms of stature. For me, it just lends further potential emphasis that the big ticket artists are now leaning more towards their own shows as opposed to the festival circuit. Unless festival organisers match or surpass the fees of their own tour shows. Maybe that's just the way it's headed?

The standard just isn't there is it now. 

[Talcroft]

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51 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

People still can't get their heads around the fact that festivals evolve. It's like they want to freeze time to suit their taste.

I've gone on about this before on here so I won't rant at length, but I think it's more nuanced than that.. For a long time in the UK, festivals were a haven for alternative communities and when they go "mainstream" I think some of those communities feel threatened - their safe space is being taken away. 

Chappelle Roan is the obvious exception to this identity wise, but the music remains mainstream pop. 

I'm not gonna debate this any more because it's not something I have a clear feeling on - I get mad that the people who bullied me for being alternative now hang out at the same festivals, but equally I'm glad the things I love get a world stage and are accessible to all, rather than falling by the wayside. 

 

(And obviously I haven't even mentioned the faux community construct of modern capitalism anyway, like certain major festivals or artists actually ever cared about identity over profits.) 

[4AssedMonkey]

2 hours ago, whateverworksout said:

People that were in primary school and grew up listening to her/sugababes are now the main age group that are at glastonbury - so of course it’s going to be heaving when people just wanna have a good time/singalong! 

 

I get this and expected Sugababes to be mad busy, but I was genuinely - am still genuinely - baffled by the size of the crowd for Avril Lavigne.  I would never have predicted that.  I just didn't think that she had enough big UK hits to be such a draw.

 

[northernangel]

2 minutes ago, Talcroft said:

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I've gone on about this before on here so I won't rant at length, but I think it's more nuanced than that.. For a long time in the UK, festivals were a haven for alternative communities and when they go "mainstream" I think some of those communities feel threatened - their safe space is being taken away. 

Chappelle Roan is the obvious exception to this identity wise, but the music remains mainstream pop. 

I'm not gonna debate this any more because it's not something I have a clear feeling on - I get mad that the people who bullied me for being alternative now hang out at the same festivals, but equally I'm glad the things I love get a world stage and are accessible to all, rather than falling by the wayside. 

 

(And obviously I haven't even mentioned the faux community construct of modern capitalism anyway, like certain major festivals or artists actually ever cared about identity over profits.) 

For me what's annoying is when they book what I'd call a new lot of rubbish for the new age/era we'll say while randomly popping in what I'd call better options that don't still make it worth it. Some of it I genuinely can't understand how it's so popular and big. I went festivals at a time when you needed more than 1 good song to get you to subbing or headlining a festival, times have changed majorly there. 

 

I listen to all sorts of music so it's not as of I need to stay years back....I do think the quality of output was better though. Like I wouldn't just decide a newer band is rubbish without listening and say older is better. 

 

You look back at the 80s, 90s they still had rockier bands, into the 2000s, deep onto the 2000s so it's not like it was just a fad! Bands generally for me aren't good enough to sustain it. Like I started going Reading in 2006, the era before me did, the era after me for a little bit did but the it all just changed to the decent at the start indie rock bands continuing that didn't actually make the top anyway. That's why I think Fontaines DC have held off apparently from Glastonbury due be one that does make it.

 

Festivals have been making their way poppier for years though. 

[incident]

7 minutes ago, 4AssedMonkey said:

I get this and expected Sugababes to be mad busy, but I was genuinely - am still genuinely - baffled by the size of the crowd for Avril Lavigne.  I would never have predicted that.  I just didn't think that she had enough big UK hits to be such a draw.

 

Seven UK top 10s, and several more in the top fourty. With most of that coming when the chart positions still meant something.

 

I've not checked this, but I'd presume that outside of (two of) the headliners and the legends slot, there weren't many (if any) acts on the lineup that could match that reach.

[Gnomicide]

Avril was great fun, I particularly enjoyed singing the words from Complicated to about 4 of her songs. I always suspected the field would be heaving, maybe just not to the extent that it was.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Have to factor in that she wasn't up against any strong competition. Janelle Monae was always going to be a weak draw.

[mouserat]

18 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Have to factor in that she wasn't up against any strong competition. Janelle Monae was always going to be a weak draw.

Not just Janelle. I had a look back at the clashfinder and I'm not sure anyone else on at the same time across all the stages was enough of a draw to get people - particularly the demographic with nostalgia for Avril Lavigne.

[The Nal]

2 hours ago, foolee said:

People seem to be forgetting music is subjective in this thread 

 

Nah f**k that. Thats not how Efestivals works.

 

Anyone who went to see an act I don't like is a complete c**t.

 

 

 

See.....

[dotdash79]

49 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Have to factor in that she wasn't up against any strong competition. Janelle Monae was always going to be a weak draw.

I was going to go watch Janelle, but she was playing 3 nights in Manchester the following week so went to one of them, and enjoyed Avril. 

[Acid_Haze]

44 minutes ago, mouserat said:

Not just Janelle. I had a look back at the clashfinder and I'm not sure anyone else on at the same time across all the stages was enough of a draw to get people - particularly the demographic with nostalgia for Avril Lavigne.

Brittany Howard killed it, was one of my highlights of the weekend.

[CaledonianGonzo]

Presumably not a ginormo-crowd though?

 

 

[Acid_Haze]

52 minutes ago, CaledonianGonzo said:

Presumably not a ginormo-crowd though?

 

 

 

Miniscule crowd, got a nice spot right near the front!

 

Walked through the Pyramid field on the way and it seemed Janelle was more of a draw for the seagulls than the people.

Edited October 24 by Acid_Haze

[mufcok]

anyone aware of any bookies besides SkyBet and William Hill who have historically offered betting odds? (only SkyBet offering right now, to my knowledge)

[incident]

22 minutes ago, mufcok said:

anyone aware of any bookies besides SkyBet and William Hill who have historically offered betting odds? (only SkyBet offering right now, to my knowledge)

 

Actually offered?

 

Paddy Power used to, but haven't seen them do so for a few years.

 

Coral and William Hill both periodically put out press releases about Glastonbury odds, but as best I can tell (for this market) both are far more interested in telling people about their odds than actually offering them.

 

SkyBet is the only one I'm aware of that has actually kept the market open for more than a token PR gesture.

 

Anything you fancy telling us?

Edited October 24 by incident

[northernangel]

23 minutes ago, mufcok said:

anyone aware of any bookies besides SkyBet and William Hill who have historically offered betting odds? (only SkyBet offering right now, to my knowledge)

You can't come in here with that lol and not drip feed something hahs

[mufcok]

5 minutes ago, northernangel said:

You can't come in here with that lol and not drip feed something hahs

 

Who says I have info! 😂 just merely asking a question 👀