gfa Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 4 hours ago, DomDom1984 said: Stormzy sold out his APE day, no? That's not exactly a small number of tickets. He didn't pretty sure. Had this discussion a few days ago, only shows to sell out were the first nick cave and strokes shows pre covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, Nobby's Old Boots said: You LITERALLY asked for an example of him headlining an outdoor show. Something that is bigger and more wide spread that his own home town you troll. 2 hours ago, MEGABOWL said: How has it ‘brought down the levels of what the festival were prepared to book to top it?’ Well usually headliners play something bigger than Brixton Academy as their own single gig before getting a Glastonbury headline spot. Wireless was a day filled with other bands in his own town and Dj Khaled or J Cole aren't topping Glastonbury are they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisco Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 If new people don’t headline then Glastonbury are going to really struggle in a few years when all the oldies have died off. Coldplay, AM, Radiohead, The Cure aren’t going to keep going forever. Mumfords, Ed, Stormzy, Sza, Dua (and many more in the past) were given shots, some got bigger and some will probably peek at that but it’s about 1. Giving the opportunities and 2. The need to as lots of the bigger acts are doing their own thing nowadays more than ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chew the fat Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 5 hours ago, northernangel said: Tell me another headliner that got that opportunity off of their own tour dates before or since. Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom1984 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Worth noting Coldplay got their first one because The Strokes pulled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdm22 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 minute ago, DomDom1984 said: Worth noting Coldplay got their first one because The Strokes pulled out The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby's Old Boots Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 58 minutes ago, northernangel said: Something that is bigger and more wide spread that his own home town you troll. Keep moving those goalposts in order to make your incoherent and indecipherable message you troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernangel Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 37 minutes ago, chew the fat said: Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay Arctics you are right about. They had festivals around including Reading in subs spots and they just blew up quicker than anyone. But we are going back 17 years to where thing were a little different. 02 arena was only just built lol 36 minutes ago, DomDom1984 said: Worth noting Coldplay got their first one because The Strokes pulled out He's done you here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcok Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 It's a travesty that The Strokes have never done Glastonbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom1984 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, northernangel said: He's done you here Kinda. Might be worth thinking what The Strokes had done before the summer of 2002 though. Them and Coldplay were bands in the same boat. Except Coldplay were actually about to release their second album. Strokes follow up was over a year away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dg_vic Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, mufcok said: It's a travesty that The Strokes have never done Glastonbury There is a known reason for that though. Strokes were due to play Pilton party 2001, pulled out near the date for unspecified reasons and Coldplay stepped up (and flew from Paris) to play. https://www.nme.com/news/music/chris-martin-filling-in-the-strokes-coldplay-headlining-glastonbury-2002-2696924 The Eavis family have never forgiven the strokes, who frankly only ever play for the $$ anyway so unlikely to ever play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcok Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 14 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: There is a known reason for that though. Strokes were due to play Pilton party 2001, pulled out near the date for unspecified reasons and Coldplay stepped up (and flew from Paris) to play. https://www.nme.com/news/music/chris-martin-filling-in-the-strokes-coldplay-headlining-glastonbury-2002-2696924 The Eavis family have never forgiven the strokes, who frankly only ever play for the $$ anyway so unlikely to ever play. Yeah I'm aware of the back story, still disappointing though. Definitely right, re the $$. I'd kill for them to properly tour here but I doubt that's happening now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 9 hours ago, stuie said: Headlining Glastonbury to critical acclaim was his career peak? What a loser. Ikr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlierc Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, chew the fat said: Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay I think Coldplay played Glastonbury before their first headline slot if I'm not mistaken. AM going straight in as Pyramid bill-toppers was pretty wild. And apparently something that even caught themselves out for how much of a big deal that was, given they have since said their 2013 date went better than their 2007 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toilet Duck Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 33 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: The Eavis family have never forgiven the strokes, who frankly only ever play for the $$ anyway so unlikely to ever play. Obviously forgave Julian Casablancas sufficiently to book him to play the JP though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glimmers_of_hope Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 44 minutes ago, Dg_vic said: There is a known reason for that though. Strokes were due to play Pilton party 2001, pulled out near the date for unspecified reasons and Coldplay stepped up (and flew from Paris) to play. https://www.nme.com/news/music/chris-martin-filling-in-the-strokes-coldplay-headlining-glastonbury-2002-2696924 The Eavis family have never forgiven the strokes, who frankly only ever play for the $$ anyway so unlikely to ever play. Yeah it's a funny one. I kinda feel like the festival would get over the original reason if there was a place for them to play for the right fee. I think that is the main issue. They probably aren't really pyramid headliners but they would want that kind of money. They feel like other stage headliners now. I mean maybe if they continue to stick around and release albums they aren't far off heritage act? They only play 1 or 2 gigs in the UK every few years so they don't oversaturate the market. Stranger things have happened so for me it's still in the "maybe one day" if there's the right set of circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 The Stokes are, dare I say it, a touch too unreliable as a live prospect in the current day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABOWL Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 7 hours ago, northernangel said: Something that is bigger and more wide spread that his own home town you troll. Well usually headliners play something bigger than Brixton Academy as their own single gig before getting a Glastonbury headline spot. Wireless was a day filled with other bands in his own town and Dj Khaled or J Cole aren't topping Glastonbury are they. So which headliners have followed that had previously only played Brixton Academy (or subbed the Orher Stage) as their biggest gig?I can’t think of any. Which suggests to me that it was a perfectly timed one off that was very successful, and not in any way detrimental to the festival. In fact quite the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGABOWL Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, NorthernSoul52 said: The Stokes are, dare I say it, a touch too unreliable as a live prospect in the current day and age. Especially for the coin they charge. They can be really great or total sh*t. Judging by the last time I saw them (TRNSMT 2022) both within the same gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSoul52 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 Never have been as deeply enamoured with them as several of my friends have, but was disappointed by them at Lytham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprefan Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 On 10/31/2024 at 7:15 AM, CaledonianGonzo said: I'm more taking issue with Master Shake's contention that all hell will break loose in the unprecedented situation of 3 young headliners (when it happened relatively frequently in the 90s / early 00s and noone batted an eyelid) nobody gave any f**ks when it was guitar bands. Now youre going into electronic and pop acts getting in there and the core base is scared shitless yet again that somebody even like Sam Fender will be few and far between of guitar artists being at the top of the bill. I wonder if the old guard saw the Primavera trio and are sweating bullets that Emily wouldve wanted that herself to make her vision come true despite it likely alienating a lot of folks. Glasto is losing its crutch of "old" acts and they have to adapt one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaledonianGonzo Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 There have also been pop acts and electronic acts headlining since the 1980s. Well I guess someone hasn't heard of The Communards like Google hasn't made it to America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben7amin_ Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 Saw the Strokes once, when they co-headlined Leeds/Reading luckily at Leeds where Stokes were on first. Very average performance looked like they wanted to get though it quickly as they could. Followed by Pulp who as im sure most of us know are a fantastic live act - wiped the floor with them Jarvis and Julien are different ends of charisma spectrum. Feel sorry for those at Reading when Stokes came on second. Big fan of the first three albums but - (IMO) all the strokes albums after than I think have been pretty poor compared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chew the fat Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 51 minutes ago, Ben7amin_ said: Big fan of the first three albums but - (IMO) all the strokes albums after than I think have been pretty poor compared. Surely you don't think that about The New Abnormal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, Suprefan said: nobody gave any f**ks when it was guitar bands. Now youre going into electronic and pop acts getting in there and the core base is scared shitless yet again that somebody even like Sam Fender will be few and far between of guitar artists being at the top of the bill. I wonder if the old guard saw the Primavera trio and are sweating bullets that Emily wouldve wanted that herself to make her vision come true despite it likely alienating a lot of folks. Glasto is losing its crutch of "old" acts and they have to adapt one way or another. or they just keep doing what they do? A nice mixture of genres, fresh artists and old guard when possible. if you really think Emily wanted Chappell/XCX and Sabrina as 2025 pyramid headliners, then you're a little crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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