2025 R&L Festival

[swiftstan13]

my predictions. ignore the poster haha

[Andrinald]

A few foo many headliners there haha

[swiftstan13]

1 minute ago, Andrinald said:

A few foo many headliners there haha

yeah ik i dont have a clue haha

[Chad888]

I'm still not in with the Disneyesque pop punk Sabrina Carpenters, Tate Mcraes, Olivia Rodrigos headlining.

 

To me THAT is the shift that we all dislike, at least involving more rap music is still the music that angsty teens listen to. 

 

20 years ago the involvement of rap was Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Jay Z, Dr Dre - all of that would have gone down well.

 

20 years ago, the female punk pop would be Christina Aguilera, April Lavigne, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani ... those would have gone down like a tonne of bricks.

[wghennessy]

1 minute ago, Chad888 said:

I'm still not in with the Disneyesque pop punk Sabrina Carpenters, Tate Mcraes, Olivia Rodrigos headlining.

 

To me THAT is the shift that we all dislike, at least involving more rap music is still the music that angsty teens listen to. 

 

20 years ago the involvement of rap was Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Jay Z, Dr Dre - all of that would have gone down well.

 

20 years ago, the female punk pop would be Christina Aguilera, April Lavigne, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani ... those would have gone down like a tonne of bricks.

Good thing it isnt 20 years ago and people move on and change isnt it. Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo are more than worthy headliners of any festival in the world.

[Andrinald]

Get with the times mate... From reading your posts, I think you probably need to be a bit more forward-thinking.

 

Also, I'm a big rock/metal fan in his 30s and have been going on and off since 2002 but I'd rather see Olivia/Chappell/Sabrina than plenty of "rock" bands.

 

In fact, Chappell would probably sell me a ticket.

[tomjfx]

Travis Scott / Biffy Clyro

Chappell Roan / Hozier

Muse or Eminem / Central Cee

 

The only one I'm unsure on is Muse, if not them then Eminem but I don't know if they would have 3 rap headliners in a year

[Chad888]

6 minutes ago, wghennessy said:

Good thing it isnt 20 years ago and people move on and change isnt it. Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo are more than worthy headliners of any festival in the world.

Yes, headline festivals. There are different types of festivals. 

 

There is a reason they aren't being booked to do Creamfields or Ibiza Rocks. 

 

A festival built on music that you're 16 year old son in his "f&ck the world and everything" phase would listen to while hanging down an alleyway sharing a roll-up ciggy.

 

Not the music that your little sister sings into her hairbrush. 

 

But you are the one that thought Yungblud would be the biggest artist to headline just 3 years ago.

[Chad888]

14 minutes ago, Andrinald said:

Get with the times mate... From reading your posts, I think you probably need to be a bit more forward-thinking.

 

Also, I'm a big rock/metal fan in his 30s and have been going on and off since 2002 but I'd rather see Olivia/Chappell/Sabrina than plenty of "rock" bands.

 

In fact, Chappell would probably sell me a ticket.

 

There's a reason I left Chappel off there, because she has the potential to own the market in the Paramore style area, with her sound and style.

[Andrinald]

Olivia is WAAAAAY more Paramore than Chappell is...

[wghennessy]

2 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

Yes, headline festivals. There are different types of festivals. 

 

There is a reason they aren't being booked to do Creamfields or Ibiza Rocks. 

 

A festival built on music that you're 16 year old son in his "f&ck the world and everything" phase would listen to while hanging down an alleyway sharing a roll-up ciggy.

 

Not the music that your little sister sings into her hairbrush. 

 

But you are the one that thought Yungblud would be the biggest artist to headline just 3 years ago.

Im the one who knows YBs team personally, why youd choose that to have a dig because your argument is absolute nonsense is beyond me.

 

People change, music tastes changes. You're stuck in the dark ages.

[Chad888]

1 minute ago, wghennessy said:

Im the one who knows YBs team personally, why youd choose that to have a dig because your argument is absolute nonsense is beyond me.

 

People change, music tastes changes. You're stuck in the dark ages.

 

Great, let's get Olly Murs, Blue, S Club 7, Robbie Williams headlining then, they fit your new market. Get with the times! Kid pop is in!

[wghennessy]

4 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

 

Great, let's get Olly Murs, Blue, S Club 7, Robbie Williams headlining then, they fit your new market. Get with the times! Kid pop is in!

How are you comparing them with Olivia Rodrigo? Its like you just dismiss female artists and label them as "pop" stars to suit your f**king nonsense sexist argument.

 

How is Sam Fender any different or have more credibility than O Rod?

[Andrinald]

Probably best to ignore him... Ha

[BenG92]

Just now, wghennessy said:

How are you comparing them with Olivia Rodrigo? Its like you just dismiss female artists and label them as "pop" stars to suit your f**king nonsense sexist argument.

 

How is Sam Fender any different or have more credibility than O Rod?

 

You see, he's got a guitar, which makes him very cool, unlike those girls who all smell. Doesn't matter that it's Radio 2 rock for dads, still very cool. 

[Andrinald]

Olivia Rodrigo plays guitar @Chad888

[Chad888]

1 minute ago, wghennessy said:

How are you comparing them with Olivia Rodrigo? Its like you just dismiss female artists and label them as "pop" stars to suit your f**king nonsense sexist argument.

 

How is Sam Fender any different or have more credibility than O Rod?

You can try and politicise it but I've also been critical of Vampire Weekend, Bland Fender, Killers, Eminem in this exact thread.

 

As I said, there is no time in history that Britney Spears, Olly Murs and Christina Aguilera would be taken well topping this festival, and no matter how desperately you try to strawman that into "you're just a righty gammon old man", it would be the death of the festival.

[glastorome]

41 minutes ago, Andrinald said:

Get with the times mate... From reading your posts, I think you probably need to be a bit more forward-thinking.

 

Also, I'm a big rock/metal fan in his 30s and have been going on and off since 2002 but I'd rather see Olivia/Chappell/Sabrina than plenty of "rock" bands.

 

In fact, Chappell would probably sell me a ticket.

I went to my first Leeds in 2003 to see Metallica, SOAD and Linkin Park, and Chappell would probably sell me a ticket as well. 

 

My 15 year old son recommended her to me, fantastic album, and if shes announced I think we may have a family festival day, first one since 2019 for the kids  when we took them to Leeds to see Billie Eilish and TOP. 

[wghennessy]

7 minutes ago, Chad888 said:

You can try and politicise it but I've also been critical of Vampire Weekend, Bland Fender, Killers, Eminem in this exact thread.

 

As I said, there is no time in history that Britney Spears, Olly Murs and Christina Aguilera would be taken well topping this festival, and no matter how desperately you try to strawman that into "you're just a righty gammon old man", it would be the death of the festival.

Oh because the festival has been absolutely flying recently hasnt it. Thats the thing, it isnt history, it is 2024 and funnily enough the demographic changes, music taste changes and people would much rather see something new and exciting than the same old recycled bands.

[OddRon]

Like what you want but writing off young female musicians as music for little sisters to sing into their hairbrushes is not the argument you wanna be making.

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, Chad888 said:

 

Says in the top right corner that this is the 2026 line-up as well the insinuation it's the 20225 line. If it's the latter, plenty of time for these acts to get the buzz and assuring in a way there'll still be a Reading Festival that far in the future.

[FeverDream]

My work laptop is broken so I’ve had the worst morning ever trying to sort out. Log onto here whilst having a brew and see the return of Wilcox. All my problems instantly solved (or shattered, when he confirms the worst).

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, andyrhodes24 said:

I had to ask ChatGPT:

 

MAIN STAGE

Arctic Monkeys > Sam Fender > Royal Blood > Beabadoobee > Turnstile > The Snuts

 

Billie Eilish > Dua Lipa > Wolf Alice > IDLES > Wet Leg > Runa Sawayama

 

Foo Fighters > BMTH > Paramore > Maneskin > Architects > Nova Twins

 

RI TENT

Kendrick Lamar > Little Simz > slowthai > Stormzy > Baby Keem

 

Florence > Lana Del Rey > Romy > Boygenius > Phoebe Bridgers

 

Post Malone > Central Cee > Aitch > AJ Tracey > Dave

 

CHEVRON

Fred Again, Bicep, Peggy Gou, The Blessed Madonna, Four Tet, Overmono, CamelPhat, Charlotte De Witte

 

FR

Black Midi, Yard Act, Fontaines DC, The Murder Capital, Wet Leg, Inhaler, Declan McKenna, Holly Humberstone

 

BBC INTRO

Lovejoy, CMAT, Maisie Peters, PinkPantheress, Joesef, Sam Ryder, The Reytons

Feels ambitious.

[Chad888]

7 minutes ago, OddRon said:

Like what you want but writing off young female musicians as music for little sisters to sing into their hairbrushes is not the argument you wanna be making.

 

And yet I never mentioned gender, it was only the people trying to strawman the discussion. If prediction posters had Justin Timberlake and Justin Bieber headlining, I'd again say - Disney pop for pre-teens to dance around theit room, singing into their hairbrush.

[Sorcha17]

1 minute ago, Chad888 said:

 

And yet I never mentioned gender, it was only the people trying to strawman the discussion. If prediction posters had Justin Timberlake and Justin Bieber headlining, I'd again say - Disney pop for pre-teens to dance around theit room, singing into their hairbrush.

You're quoting these acts as if they're current and in the zeitgeist and they really aren't.