UK Politics

[steviewevie]

Just now, Nobody Interesting said:

LOL
Reform are picking up votes from all siders and also taking votes from first time voters as well.

Just connecting one party with losing votes from one other is pure folly and if you thought about it perhaps I might not need to be patronising............... but your, and others, go to is to attack and blame the Greens cos for some reason you seem worried that Labour might not win.

If they don't it will be cos they lost it by not being good enough, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Yes Reform are taking votes from everywhere, but mostly it's the Tories. Same with Greens and Labour. Just saying it how it is, not to have some sort of endless political party argument so you can bang on about your voting choices.

[zahidf]

5 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

ok, but let's not kid ourselves it was to get her on board to work as a housing advisor, it was to cause more chaos and disarray within the Tory party.

Ah yeah, for sure. But she does seem to care about social housing as well as defending sex pests!

[steviewevie]

 

[zahidf]

12 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

But i thought Starmer hates the left???

 

 

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, steviewevie said:

 

Yes Reform are taking votes from everywhere, but mostly it's the Tories. Same with Greens and Labour. Just saying it how it is, not to have some sort of endless political party argument so you can bang on about your voting choices.

 

Like you never bang on about your voting choices - if it is OK for you it is OK for everyone........................

Non Labour supporters come on here and get rounded on by you and your 'chums' and yet when such is given back you really don't like it. Non Labour supporters who remain here (most have been banned it seems) feel as welcome as a turd on a dinner table.

You do not make the rules as to who can say what and I will not take any 'lectures' from a person who posted what you did yesterday in the International Politics thread.

Support the people of Gaza is fine - pretty sure we all do but direct vulgar insults against someone from Israel crosses the line of decency and really should be reported as antisemitism and pretty sure that would not be the first time you have done that from memory............................. but as I am not what you called the Israeli PM I have not reported you.

Have a nice day and I look forward to your insulting reply.

[steviewevie]

10 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Like you never bang on about your voting choices - if it is OK for you it is OK for everyone........................

Non Labour supporters come on here and get rounded on by you and your 'chums' and yet when such is given back you really don't like it. Non Labour supporters who remain here (most have been banned it seems) feel as welcome as a turd on a dinner table.

You do not make the rules as to who can say what and I will not take any 'lectures' from a person who posted what you did yesterday in the International Politics thread.

Support the people of Gaza is fine - pretty sure we all do but direct vulgar insults against someone from Israel crosses the line of decency and really should be reported as antisemitism and pretty sure that would not be the first time you have done that from memory............................. but as I am not what you called the Israeli PM I have not reported you.

Have a nice day and I look forward to your insulting reply.

 

whatever. You upset about me calling Netanyahu a c**t?! Good grief. Report away if that's what floats your boat. 

 

Anyway, I can't even remembered how it started, I think I just said Labour are losing voters to Greens, and you made it all about you, because it always is.

[Crazyfool01]

22 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Like you never bang on about your voting choices - if it is OK for you it is OK for everyone........................

Non Labour supporters come on here and get rounded on by you and your 'chums' and yet when such is given back you really don't like it. Non Labour supporters who remain here (most have been banned it seems) feel as welcome as a turd on a dinner table.

You do not make the rules as to who can say what and I will not take any 'lectures' from a person who posted what you did yesterday in the International Politics thread.

Support the people of Gaza is fine - pretty sure we all do but direct vulgar insults against someone from Israel crosses the line of decency and really should be reported as antisemitism and pretty sure that would not be the first time you have done that from memory............................. but as I am not what you called the Israeli PM I have not reported you.

Have a nice day and I look forward to your insulting reply.

I suspect you cant name anyone that has been banned for a political viewpoint of any description ... so please dont make that up . its absolutely categorically false .

[Neil]

9 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

So you think nobody has ever been trained and groomed to be able to come across looking and sounding good!!

Where to even start - PR teams and script writers are an integral part of every political party and have been for years and are also part of pretty much every board of top companies as well as most celebraties and companies that provide such services have grown very wealthy...............
Here are some companies that provide such:
https://plmr.co.uk/
https://whitehousecomms.com/
https://roxhillmedia.com/resources/pr-insights/top-pr-agencies-in-london-and-the-uk/

Without these services most politicians would look and sound very different.

but you keep thinki ng it is rubbish if you want.

i bet you wish the greens had a smidgen of those skills, instead of zilch. they make starmer look charismatic.

 

 

[Neil]

3 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

purge the left

when where???? corbyn and abbott expelling themselves is not a purge.

[Nobody Interesting]

1 hour ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I suspect you cant name anyone that has been banned for a political viewpoint of any description ... so please dont make that up . its absolutely categorically false .

 

Please don't take what I wrote and make it mean something is clearly does not say!

I wrote:
"Non Labour supporters who remain here (most have been banned it seems) feel as welcome as a turd on a dinner table."

Nowhere does that say they have been banned for political viewpoints does it?

[Nobody Interesting]

2 hours ago, steviewevie said:

 

whatever. You upset about me calling Netanyahu a c**t?! Good grief. Report away if that's what floats your boat. 

 

Anyway, I can't even remembered how it started, I think I just said Labour are losing voters to Greens, and you made it all about you, because it always is.

 

This is a forum where people make their opinions public - an opinion is a personal thing so my opinion are, to you, about me.................. How can I have an opinion that is not mine?

Anyway, as usual you ignore pretty much everything, pretend to not even remember how it started and say something different to that.

As before, seems you are allowed to make comments (an never need evidence) but others are not and if they dare to reply to you and don't toe the line you get the hump.

and yes, calling the Israeli leader that is out of order and a post like that serves no purpose apart from to try and anger others but you will never admit that.

[Crazyfool01]

4 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

Please don't take what I wrote and make it mean something is clearly does not say!

I wrote:
"Non Labour supporters who remain here (most have been banned it seems) feel as welcome as a turd on a dinner table."

Nowhere does that say they have been banned for political viewpoints does it?

so who has been banned then ? im confused what you are talking about ? 

[steviewevie]

2 minutes ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

This is a forum where people make their opinions public - an opinion is a personal thing so my opinion are, to you, about me.................. How can I have an opinion that is not mine?

Anyway, as usual you ignore pretty much everything, pretend to not even remember how it started and say something different to that.

As before, seems you are allowed to make comments (an never need evidence) but others are not and if they dare to reply to you and don't toe the line you get the hump.

and yes, calling the Israeli leader that is out of order and a post like that serves no purpose apart from to try and anger others but you will never admit that.

 

ok, how did it start?

(and Netanyahu is a c**t)

[Nobody Interesting]

Just now, Crazyfool01 said:

so who has been banned then ? im confused what you are talking about ? 

 

People who used to post here who were openly not Labour supporters and who no longer post here. I know 2 who were banned from the site (no idea if permanent or not).

The reference was not, as I said, directly about them being banned for political views which I never said but that they had been banned.................. one is a poster I certainly do not miss but I am not going to list other posters names here. If you want to talk about it feel free to message me and I will reply when I am not trying to get others here to realise how childish they seem to be.

[Nobody Interesting]

2 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

ok, how did it start?

(and Netanyahu is a c**t)

If you are going to try and delibertely inflame things by repeating your very dubious statement and be what comes across as very childish then this conversation is over.

[Crazyfool01]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

People who used to post here who were openly not Labour supporters and who no longer post here. I know 2 who were banned from the site (no idea if permanent or not).

The reference was not, as I said, directly about them being banned for political views which I never said but that they had been banned.................. one is a poster I certainly do not miss but I am not going to list other posters names here. If you want to talk about it feel free to message me and I will reply when I am not trying to get others here to realise how childish they seem to be.

if you want to dm me names I can take a look .... but ive been moderating last few years and cant think of any although I took a break for a bit . 

[steviewevie]

1 minute ago, Nobody Interesting said:

If you are going to try and delibertely inflame things by repeating your very dubious statement and be what comes across as very childish then this conversation is over.

 

Ok, Netanyahu is misunderstood.

 

And also, how did this current spat start? You seem to be suggesting I am making sh*t up.

[pink_triangle]

5 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I saw  that ... just wonder what Labour are doing to encourage this ? looks awful in my opinion for starmer to associate himself with her , purge the left and let in the right ... 😞 and  ones that were attacking his policy last week at that 

I think that’s political bubble thinking. Outside politics social media nobody has a clue who this woman is. All they see is a Tory defecting to labour.

[steviewevie]

Just now, pink_triangle said:

I think that’s political bubble thinking. Outside politics social media nobody has a clue who this woman is. All they see is a Tory defecting to labour.

maybe it is. It still stinks.

[pink_triangle]

4 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

 

erm, Angela Raynor

I could list heaps more with ease should I be bothered.

FYI I knew Mark Harper before he was an MP. He was an accountant and had the communication skills of a slug and was shy and hated being out in public.
Now he is Transport Secretary and manages fine under scrutiny and could well be a future Tory leader.

These companies can, and do, take useless people and create something that looks and sounds the part but is still useless.

Im sure some of the socialists in labour could source some funding for the training if they wanted. It can’t make Starmer charismatic, so why would it have a different impact on RLB or Burgon.

 

I don’t think Rayner has ever been in the socialist group and at present she is completely on board with the centre left Starmer project.

 

Saying I could name loads more but can’t be bothered, reminds me of a few teenage (when I was a teenager many years ago) friends discussing their sexual conquests. If you think these great communicators on the labour left exist then name them!

Edited May 8 by pink_triangle

[pink_triangle]

7 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

maybe it is. It still stinks.

But you (like me) are in the bubble!

[steviewevie]

4 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

But you (like me) are in the bubble!

 

yes we are...still doesn't matter in my opinion...it is just morally wrong.

[Crazyfool01]

28 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

I think that’s political bubble thinking. Outside politics social media nobody has a clue who this woman is. All they see is a Tory defecting to labour.

Let me out let me out 

[steviewevie]

 

[pink_triangle]

33 minutes ago, steviewevie said:

 

yes we are...still doesn't matter in my opinion...it is just morally wrong.

I’m sure there are many twats amongst labour MPs and many really nice people among the torys. There may be a point if she was standing again but she isn’t. I am not doing somersaults because she has defected, but neither do I particularly care.