steviewevie Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Skip997 said: assault that is unparalleled in its intensity, brutality and scope everyone is warning them against this Rafah invasion...if they actually do it then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, steviewevie said: everyone is warning them against this Rafah invasion...if they actually do it then what? Nothing but some stern words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotheronethen Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, Skip997 said: Nothing but some stern words Plus a slight fluctuation in the stock market then back to worrying about not offending people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 43 minutes ago, steviewevie said: hamas don't want it to stop and are refusing the ceasefire offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, Neil said: hamas don't want it to stop and are refusing the ceasefire offer Hamas had their own ceasefire offer which wasn't acceptable to Israel, and visa versa. This is what they trying to sort out with negotiations behind the scenes but don't seem to be making any progress. Meanwhile 100s of Palestinians dying every day has just become background noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Hamas had their own ceasefire offer which wasn't acceptable to Israel, and visa versa. This is what they trying to sort out with negotiations behind the scenes but don't seem to be making any progress. Meanwhile 100s of Palestinians dying every day has just become background noise. that's obviously not a huge concern to Hamas Palestinians. if Hamas didn't realise things would happen as they have they know less about middle eastern politics than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 IDF desperately going round this hospital shooting anyone in the hope that they might be Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 9 hours ago, steviewevie said: IDF desperately going round this hospital shooting anyone in the hope that they might be Hamas. invading a hospital isn't a good look, Israeli forces looking more and more shambolic - no plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steviewevie Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war. Edited February 16 by steviewevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war. This is really no surprise and was clear as day right from the start. And yes there really should be an intervention by "the west", but there won't be. Not sure surrounding countries will get involved as they know USA and the UK will attack them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 12 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Far from an ideal solution, but fair play to Egypt, at least someone in the area has some humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip997 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-war-spain-halts-arms-export-licences-israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, steviewevie said: Netanyahu still ignoring anything its allies, specifically USA says...no ceasefire, no Palestinian state, no end to war until Hamas defeated. All this for his own political survival. The bloke needs taking out, literally. There needs to be an intervention, if US/UN/others don't do it then surrounding countries will and then there really will be a wider war. is he meant to force on them what they don't want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Skip997 said: This is really no surprise and was clear as day right from the start. so why did Hamas choose to cause the very_predictable, guess they wanted gaza shot up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Russia slowly and surely winning in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 minutes ago, steviewevie said: Russia slowly and surely winning in Ukraine. not sure it is, i can't work out what a win would look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 46 minutes ago, Neil said: not sure it is, i can't work out what a win would look like. yes ok...Russia slowly and surely not losing in Ukraine. I think they are making gains...Russia have been making/buying a lot of weapons, Ukraine are running out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, steviewevie said: yes ok...Russia slowly and surely not losing in Ukraine. I think they are making gains...Russia have been making/buying a lot of weapons, Ukraine are running out. ukraine&russia have been running out for a year cos most countries have downsized their weapons production capacity. most of what we send them is stuff that's about to pass its use-by-date and would need to be destroyed & replaced - so its free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewevie Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, Neil said: ukraine&russia have been running out for a year cos most countries have downsized their weapons production capacity. most of what we send them is stuff that's about to pass its use-by-date and would need to be destroyed & replaced - so its free. Russia are definitely not running out, they are running a successful war economy and also buying weapons from N Korea and drones from Iran. Ukraine are running out because funds from US and Europe have been drying up, especially US with Republicans blocking. I think Ukraine are running out of time, and maybe will agree to some deal where they lose the east of their country sometime this year. They might want to get things resolved if looks like Trump is heading to the whitehouse. Problem is, would Russia stick to the deal, or would they just invade rest of Ukraine in a few years time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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