xxialac Posted Friday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:39 PM 2 hours ago, festivalguy97 said: Yeah that’s why they are even going to scale it down this year, not sure that we are going to get something like The National. My guess is that probably Haim are doing the Wednesday show at Forum, and the Ciutat will be composed of smaller names, maybe TVOTR special show in some of the city venues, and probably that’s. This is very wise. Think will play out exactly like this. Unrelated I find it odd Iggy Pop isn’t playing given he is touring and they booked him during covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipan Posted Friday at 06:59 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 06:59 PM 31 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said: They weren't a cituat show though. They were the weds opening gig. They played on Sunday at Apolo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKA SOSOTWS Posted Friday at 07:01 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 07:01 PM 2 minutes ago, pipan said: They played on Sunday at Apolo. PSB did both opening day and Ciutat Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katyaz Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 07:01 PM On 11/8/2024 at 6:39 PM, xxialac said: This is very wise. Think will play out exactly like this. Unrelated I find it odd Iggy Pop isn’t playing given he is touring and they booked him during covid. Yeah same. I've now got tickets for his show the day before I fly to BCN but I really thought he'd be there. I guess it just didn't work out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrophobia Posted Monday at 10:23 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:23 AM Bit surprised we still don't have day splits. It shouldn't be that difficult to make a poster with each artists day of appearance, no? Maybe they gotta secure Twigs' backup first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JedTheHumanoid Posted Monday at 10:35 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:35 AM 9 minutes ago, Quadrophobia said: Bit surprised we still don't have day splits. It shouldn't be that difficult to make a poster with each artists day of appearance, no? Maybe they gotta secure Twigs' backup first? Pretty sure it's sales decision. maximize full fest tickets sales first before starting with the daily ones. I find it hard to believe that they don't know who plays when Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted Monday at 10:48 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:48 AM 12 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: Pretty sure it's sales decision. maximize full fest tickets sales first before starting with the daily ones. I find it hard to believe that they don't know who plays when It’s either that and they want people to buy the full festival ticket, and announcing that there are very few left they will create even more hype. Or it could be that 2 of the pop girls are playing the same day so people are going mostly to that day, so they need to sell as many full festival tickets as they can before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 10:56 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:56 AM 20 minutes ago, JedTheHumanoid said: Pretty sure it's sales decision. maximize full fest tickets sales first before starting with the daily ones. Not disagreeing with you but does beg the question of why if it’s such a good strategy they didn’t do it in the last 20 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted Monday at 12:12 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:12 PM 1 hour ago, xxialac said: Not disagreeing with you but does beg the question of why if it’s such a good strategy they didn’t do it in the last 20 years! Cause this is the first year where they have such a demand after releasing the lineup so early, because of Sabrina, Charli and Roan, even Lana del Rey and SZA couldn't pull this off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 12:15 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:15 PM 2 minutes ago, festivalguy97 said: Cause this is the first year where they have such a demand after releasing the lineup so early, because of Sabrina, Charli and Roan, even Lana del Rey and SZA couldn't pull this off Could well be right but pure speculation. There are other factors like affordability at play. I mean, we thought Kamala Harris was going to do well in the election and look how that turned out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted Monday at 12:18 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:18 PM 1 minute ago, xxialac said: Could well be right but pure speculation. There are other factors like affordability at play. I mean, we thought Kamala Harris was going to do well in the election and look how that turned out! What does affordability have to do with not releasing day splits? It's very obvious that sales are very strong so they don't need to split the market with day tickets yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 12:24 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:24 PM 2 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said: What does affordability have to do with not releasing day splits? All I was saying was that the high price negatively affects demand. It's pretty simple. We are still in a cost of living crisis. And General Admission tickets are now a staggering 370 Euros, which is way more than they used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndenis Posted Monday at 12:30 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:30 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, scatteredscreens said: What does affordability have to do with not releasing day splits? It's very obvious that sales are very strong so they don't need to split the market with day tickets yet. Yes this seems logical. If the weekedn tickets are flying off the shelves, they don't need to release day tickets. They reduced weekend tickets to release more LDR day tickets last year. Is it objectively true that the other 2 days were pretty quiet? I recall, just for example, the site feeling very empty on the Saturday after The Cure played the Friday in 2012. Back then the idea of not attending all 3 days of the festival seemed staggering to me, but I understand it now. The concrete and the lack of alternatives to the music can sap your energy! ps the overcrowding at 2022 was crazy, and put me off for good. Edited Monday at 12:31 PM by Johndenis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted Monday at 12:35 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:35 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, xxialac said: All I was saying was that the high price negatively affects demand. It's pretty simple. We are still in a cost of living crisis. And General Admission tickets are now a staggering 370 Euros, which is way more than they used to be. We have been in a cost of living crisis for a long time. You have no idea what you're talking about. They've put the prices up because the tiers (dictated by sales) have sold out, therefore evidence increased. Cost of living or not people want tickets to this years primavera and are voting with their wallet by buying tickets. the 350 euro general admission final tier tickets are basically the same price as the ones from 2024 when you put into account the revolut discount https://uproxx.com/music/how-much-are-tickets-primavera-sound-barcelona-2024/ . The major difference is sales weren't as good as 2025, so they moved them to the final tier in May not November. Edited Monday at 12:36 PM by scatteredscreens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 12:35 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:35 PM 4 minutes ago, Johndenis said: Yes this seems logical. If the weekedn tickets are flying off the shelves, they don't need to release day tickets. They reduced weekend tickets to release more LDR day tickets last year. Is it objectively true that the other 2 days were pretty quiet? I recall, just for example, the site feeling very empty on the Saturday after The Cure played the Friday in 2012. Back then the idea of not attending all 3 days of the festival seemed staggering to me, but I understand it now. The concrete and the lack of alternatives to the music can sap your energy! ps the overcrowding at 2022 was crazy, and put me off for good. The overcrowding at 2022 was crazy, yes, but for 1 out the 6 days! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Just now, scatteredscreens said: We have been in a cost of living crisis for a long time. You have no idea what you're talking about. They've put the prices up because the tiers (dictated by sales) have sold out, therefore increased demands. the 350 euro general admission final tier tickets are basically the same price as the ones from 2024 when you put into account the revolut discount https://uproxx.com/music/how-much-are-tickets-primavera-sound-barcelona-2024/ Not sure I'd be as rude to say you have no idea what you are talking about but certainly you can't follow a logical argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatteredscreens Posted Monday at 12:38 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:38 PM Just now, xxialac said: Not sure I'd be as rude to say you have no idea what you are talking about but certainly you can't follow a logical argument. You're out here spouting US election results trying to prove a point in regards to a festival in Spain 😂 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diancieprince Posted Monday at 12:48 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:48 PM (edited) the splitted day thing is definitely a market strategy that involves high ticket prices. Believe me when I say that many people would be willing to buy a one-day ticket if 80% of the artists they want to see are performing that day (regardless of the quality of the other days). They’re trying to sell as many full tickets as possible; in fact, they’ve said that single-day tickets will be limited. More than 325 euros nowadays for a three-day festival—plus accommodation and transportation for some—is a significant expense. If the global situation continues like this (which it will), I’m not sure how much longer they’ll be able to stretch this model and profit from it. Also, keep in mind that there’s a fairly young segment of the audience right now Edited Monday at 01:02 PM by diancieprince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johndenis Posted Monday at 12:54 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:54 PM 18 minutes ago, xxialac said: The overcrowding at 2022 was crazy, yes, but for 1 out the 6 days! Nick Cave into Gorillaz on day 3 was the worst. Outright dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 12:57 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 12:57 PM 1 minute ago, Johndenis said: Nick Cave into Gorillaz on day 3 was the worst. Outright dangerous. I respect your experience that day. Sounds awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel Posted Monday at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 02:34 PM It is all quite subtle, they could announce day splits without selling day tickets, so I think it might just be down to random circumstances and logistics, no need to fight about this! My experience is that most festival over the world don't seem to like day tickets even if the sum of the money is more from day tickets than weekend tickets. I'm not exactly sure why, but I guess that includes the mood of the artistic curator, fees/logistics, and weekend ticket holders having more chances of coming back the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
water.people Posted Monday at 02:56 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 02:56 PM (edited) 22 minutes ago, emmanuel said: It is all quite subtle, they could announce day splits without selling day tickets, so I think it might just be down to random circumstances and logistics, no need to fight about this! My experience is that most festival over the world don't seem to like day tickets even if the sum of the money is more from day tickets than weekend tickets. I'm not exactly sure why, but I guess that includes the mood of the artistic curator, fees/logistics, and weekend ticket holders having more chances of coming back the following year. Yeah I'm surprised the day splits aren't out yet, you wouldn't get many festivals that do it this way, but as you say there's probably some boring reason potentially. As for the reasoning about day tickets, think of it like selling a multipack of crisps vs selling single bags - yes, 6 singles bags = more profit than the multipack, but they will sell more and ultimately make more money that way, unless they get very lucky in having 3 equally strong day lineups that could sell out individually. Also, there's probably some stats around weekend goers spending more time on site, potentially some promises with the local council about economic spend in the city, and also for the buyer, a weekend ticket gets you access to the stuff either side of the 3 days. Anyway, this is my first post regarding this year's fest and I'm PUMPED! Edited Monday at 02:57 PM by water.people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxialac Posted Monday at 03:21 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:21 PM 2 hours ago, diancieprince said: the splitted day thing is definitely a market strategy that involves high ticket prices. Believe me when I say that many people would be willing to buy a one-day ticket if 80% of the artists they want to see are performing that day (regardless of the quality of the other days). They’re trying to sell as many full tickets as possible; in fact, they’ve said that single-day tickets will be limited. More than 325 euros nowadays for a three-day festival—plus accommodation and transportation for some—is a significant expense. If the global situation continues like this (which it will), I’m not sure how much longer they’ll be able to stretch this model and profit from it. Also, keep in mind that there’s a fairly young segment of the audience right now Agree with all your points totally. It might seem smart to appeal to the 'next generation' but they obviously have less money for things like this compared to the older folk and the price is starting to spiral out of reach for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
festivalguy97 Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 03:56 PM Also don’t forget that this year the lineup was announced 1 month earlier than the usual, so even if they announce the day splits in the beginning of December (like they usually do), they would be still on track compared with the others years. However till then, they will be able to sell even more full festival tickets. And why are they doing it this year? Cause they have the 3 most popular pop stars of the moment. Charli, Sabrina and Roan are literally dominating the Grammy awards this year. Don’t forget that Primavera is a big brand with a big team behind it, for sure they did a market study to see when to release this lineup, how to do it and how it would sell, and I think it’s working very well for them. We might have a completely sold festival if all the pop girls are playing in different days. And they want to milk it as much as possible, at a higher price. And if 2 of the pop girls will be playing on the same day, that would explain even more why they are holding on releasing the day splits. However I think it’s just for sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenova Posted Monday at 04:53 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 04:53 PM What was the sold out day last year like in terms of overcrowding? Had they reduced capacity after 2022, or was it similar that day, but quiet on the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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