Football 2024/25

[charlierc]

6 hours ago, Punksnotdead said:

I agree with this, which is why I think football shirts have no place at a music festival!

You see more than you'd think tbf. I went to Truck Festival in 2019 and there was a stall selling loads of vintage kits, almost all bizarrely being of Bundesliga clubs. Plus I seem to recall Sports Team's lead singer wearing a Toon top during his band's set.

[thetime]

18 minutes ago, charlierc said:

You see more than you'd think tbf. I went to Truck Festival in 2019 and there was a stall selling loads of vintage kits, almost all bizarrely being of Bundesliga clubs. Plus I seem to recall Sports Team's lead singer wearing a Toon top during his band's set.

 

Noel Gallagher went a bit further at Rock Werchter, bringing Kompany on stage with him. 🤨

 

I don't see an issue with football tops, see more at overseas who have a more international audience. It's quite a good atmosphere, especially the supporters of Holland/Germany/Belgium during football summers. 

[charlierc]

3 hours ago, thetime said:

 

Noel Gallagher went a bit further at Rock Werchter, bringing Kompany on stage with him. 🤨

 

I don't see an issue with football tops, see more at overseas who have a more international audience. It's quite a good atmosphere, especially the supporters of Holland/Germany/Belgium during football summers. 

I'm aware you can see a football/music pollination, particularly in international tournaments. Hell, I chose not to see The Killers on the night of the England Euros semi final and missed seeing the two worlds colliding with the band choosing to broadcast the last 2/3 minutes of it in the middle of their set then play Mr Brightside as a celebration when England won.

[charlierc]

9 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

everyone surely talks most about their own teams ? dont think thats odd ... happy to acknowledge mistakes happen elsewhere though and thats why I was talking a few posts back about having European refs refereeing the Premier League .... not just Liverpool games 

Feel like a lot of fanbases take a conspiracy mindset tbh. Arsenal's are derided for being among the worst offenders but every club has elements who think the referees hate them.

 

Coote's not helped the PGMOL with this, mind. Their PR department is going to have to work overtime on this one.

[thetime]

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

I'm aware you can see a football/music pollination, particularly in international tournaments. Hell, I chose not to see The Killers on the night of the England Euros semi final and missed seeing the two worlds colliding with the band choosing to broadcast the last 2/3 minutes of it in the middle of their set then play Mr Brightside as a celebration when England won.

 

I'm still bitter about foo fighters and james getting short sets at Glastonbury 1998, as they showed the England game on the main stage. 

 

Not a fan of international football...

[pink_triangle]

22 hours ago, Crazyfool01 said:

I’d probably agree but the conversation has come from a starting place of a chat with a ref with obvious anti Liverpool bias … so that’s influenced my post 

I am fairly neutral about Liverpool, but my son supports them so I like them to do well for him. To me the video didn’t show someone with an anti Liverpool bias, it showed a video of someone who didn’t like Klopp. There is a few key points here.

 

1. It is perfectly possible a referee can not like a manager or a player without being biased against their team. I guarantee referees throughout history have thought managers were c**** without showing bias when they refereed the games.

 

2. I am an NHS community worker and there have been some patients and carers I have worked with which may fit the c*** description. Doesn’t impact on the care they get because I like to think I am professional.

 

3. I liked Klopp when he started but I think in later years he met that C*** criteria many times with his regular moaning. I personally think sanctions need to be tougher against managers in these cases.

 

4. To me this is not evidence of bias but lack of professionalism and stupidity. On this basis he deserves punishment, if Liverpool has evidence of bias then I think they need to submit it to authorities.

[eastynh]

On 11/12/2024 at 11:31 PM, Gnomicide said:

 

Strangely, I've got a few mates who are Utd fans, worked with plenty of them in Salford for a while and they were mostly ok (and this was during the treble winning era). 

 

Most people are alright as long as you don't mention football, maybe I'm too easy going. Having said that, every Man City fan I've got to know has been a colossal knob head.

😄 

[charlierc]

10 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

3. I liked Klopp when he started but I think in later years he met that C*** criteria many times with his regular moaning. I personally think sanctions need to be tougher against managers in these cases.

This was talked about before given Alan Pardew's insane 2014, when he was first handed a warning and fined for calling Man City's then-boss Manuel Pellegrini a "f**king old c**t" during a bad-tempered game between Newcastle and Man City, and then not even six weeks later thought headbutting a Hull City player was a good idea, for which the book was thrown at him with a bigger fine and a stadium ban.

 

I'm aware few managers even at their worst go in such a hysterical direction, but the referee situation doesn't feel great. It feels like a lot of managers are just too content to whip up this conspiracy culture where the referees somehow hate everyone.

10 hours ago, pink_triangle said:

4. To me this is not evidence of bias but lack of professionalism and stupidity. On this basis he deserves punishment, if Liverpool has evidence of bias then I think they need to submit it to authorities.

The alleged follow-up stuff in one of the tabloids yesterday hints that Coote may have ventured down a dark path indeed and that the authorities investigating may have to be very thorough and think carefully about what's next.

[thetime]

1 hour ago, charlierc said:

 

 

I'm aware few managers even at their worst go in such a hysterical direction, but the referee situation doesn't feel great. It feels like a lot of managers are just too content to whip up this conspiracy culture where the referees somehow hate everyone.

The alleged follow-up stuff in one of the tabloids yesterday hints that Coote may have ventured down a dark path indeed and that the authorities investigating may have to be very thorough and think carefully about what's next.

 

Suspended until next season on full pay would be a good call. 

[pink_triangle]

12 minutes ago, thetime said:

 

Suspended until next season on full pay would be a good call. 

The only way managers will stop going after the referees is to put punishments in place that act as an incentive. Points penalties against the clubs and they would soon stop.

[thetime]

9 minutes ago, pink_triangle said:

The only way managers will stop going after the referees is to put punishments in place that act as an incentive. Points penalties against the clubs and they would soon stop.

 

I don't think there's a big issue in recent years. Fergie was bad at it, klopp was equally as bad. 

 

Over all though it isn't a major issue. 

 

Referees don't help themselves though. A manager got sent off last week, for a slight rule break as the ball was going out and he stopped off the line. 

[thetime]

Gutter press are gunn8ng for Coote, do they never learn. 

[charlierc]

Lyon given provisional demotion to Ligue 2 over finances - BBC Sport

 

They do not hang around over there, clearly, not least given we just had Bordeaux being exiled to the 4th tier. Also not a great look for John Textor, who is currently trying to buy Everton and sell his stake in Crystal Palace.

[charlierc]

11 hours ago, thetime said:

Gutter press are gunn8ng for Coote, do they never learn. 

The allegations seem like a very different issue to the initial spark question of refereeing bias, much as it's still a question people wish to ask and at a time on whether we could have a crisis in refereeing down the line given we seem to be actively trying to put people off applying to become refs.

[Comfy Bean]

Good to see Scotland get a win at last on Friday. Performances have been on the up since the euros but the  winless streak was becoming a thing.

Wasn't a great game but an absolute pleasure to see Modric at Hampden again.

Think that’s the 3rd time I’ve been lucky enough to see him in the flesh. He destroyed us in the euros and was still running the show on Friday. Absolute class.

[thetime]

3 hours ago, Comfy Bean said:

Good to see Scotland get a win at last on Friday. Performances have been on the up since the euros but the  winless streak was becoming a thing.

Wasn't a great game but an absolute pleasure to see Modric at Hampden again.

Think that’s the 3rd time I’ve been lucky enough to see him in the flesh. He destroyed us in the euros and was still running the show on Friday. Absolute class.

 

Best midfielder last 20 years for me. Sometimes people get blinded by goals and assists from midfielders. 

[charlierc]

I only half-arsedly watched England v Ireland last night but 4 players scoring their first England goal in the same game must be some kind of record.

 

Also quite amused by the idea that Taylor Harwood-Bellis - one of the scorers and a highly regarded Southampton defender - is engaged to Roy Keane's daughter. Talk about a quick way to get criticism.

[charlierc]

The classic Spursy way to lose at home to a winless Ipswich then thrash Man City at the Etihad huh

[kaosmark2]

2 hours ago, charlierc said:

The classic Spursy way to lose at home to a winless Ipswich then thrash Man City at the Etihad huh

Came here to post this. They're somehow getting more Spursy each year!

[thetime]

Liverpool could run away with the league this season. 🤨

[charlierc]

17 hours ago, thetime said:

Liverpool could run away with the league this season. 🤨

Eight points clear of Man City after they just beat Southampton and Man City's surprise walloping yesterday, and would be 11 ahead of Pep & the gang if they win their meeting at Anfield next Sunday.

 

Pretty unexpected ngl, not least as many Liverpool fans were whining that they didn't sign anyone major for the first team in the summer window, yet they seem to be going about the job rather nicely.

[Skip997]

2 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Pretty unexpected ngl, not least as many Liverpool fans were whining that they didn't sign anyone major for the first team in the summer window, yet they seem to be going about the job rather nicely.

I didn’t whine, completely obvious that we’ve got a squad capable of winning it. Why disrupt it 

[charlierc]

1 hour ago, Skip997 said:

I didn’t whine, completely obvious that we’ve got a squad capable of winning it. Why disrupt it 

I'm not saying every fan did but there were a lot of vocal types making #FSGOut trend on Twitter, particularly after the Zubimendi rejection.

 

That rebuild may be forced on the Reds if any one of the 4/5 out-of-contract players bugger off in the summer, or indeed the possibility I think of Alisson being sold due to the advance signing of the keeper coming in from Valencia for next year. Still though. So far, not bad, and if they can build a double digit lead in the table next weekend, it'll be a good place to try to stick the landing from.

[Skip997]

3 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I'm not saying every fan did but there were a lot of vocal types making #FSGOut trend on Twitter, particularly after the Zubimendi rejection.

 

That rebuild may be forced on the Reds if any one of the 4/5 out-of-contract players bugger off in the summer, or indeed the possibility I think of Alisson being sold due to the advance signing of the keeper coming in from Valencia for next year. Still though. So far, not bad, and if they can build a double digit lead in the table next weekend, it'll be a good place to try to stick the landing from.

We’ve got a fantastic backup keeper already, I’m really fine with Bradley if TAA goes. Losing VVD or Salah would be tricky. But if they want to go then good luck to them. 

[Skip997]

When are Man Utd going to realise that no matter how many times they change the manager it’s not going to work?

 

They need to change the whole squad