Football 2024/25

[thetime]

Not heard much from Liverpool fans on here lately, they get a good run going and you can't shut them up.

 

As fake as the Anfield atmosphere. ☺️

 

[charlierc]

I mean, 4 points for Ipswich from Spurs and Man United is pretty good going. Given Southampton's increasingly ridiculous defending and Leicester making the face-value odd decision to sack Steve Cooper after only 12 games, maybe Ipswich might be the best bet of the 3 newboys to stay up after all.

[thetime]

26 minutes ago, charlierc said:

I mean, 4 points for Ipswich from Spurs and Man United is pretty good going. Given Southampton's increasingly ridiculous defending and Leicester making the face-value odd decision to sack Steve Cooper after only 12 games, maybe Ipswich might be the best bet of the 3 newboys to stay up after all.

 

They've got a nice 3 game run, with some winnable games. 

[kaosmark2]

On 11/24/2024 at 6:38 PM, charlierc said:

I mean, 4 points for Ipswich from Spurs and Man United is pretty good going. Given Southampton's increasingly ridiculous defending and Leicester making the face-value odd decision to sack Steve Cooper after only 12 games, maybe Ipswich might be the best bet of the 3 newboys to stay up after all.

I think Ipswich were playing pretty good football early in the season - they just weren't getting any wins out of it. I can see it being like the last 1/4 of the season Burnley had last year - things click and they just have a style and enough quality and belief and start getting the points on the board.

 

I thought Southampton looked pretty dependent on Ramsdale to keep them up, and he's not good enough to do it with that defending in front of him. They already look done and dusted.

 

Who goes down with them is interesting though - I thought Palace's squad looked good coming out of the transfer window between retentions and signings - but apart from a couple of games they haven't played well at all. Wolves can't defend at all but they've got goals in them and I think that should keep them up eventually. Everton by contrast can't score but seem able to nick just enough wins to keep to about 1point per game which would usually keep a team up. I haven't really seen enough of Leicester this season to make any analysis, but they still seem pretty dependent on Vardy up front? Struggle to think anyone above the current bottom 6 will be dragged into it either.

[charlierc]

Le sigh. A few good wins in a row for Newcastle followed up by a home faceplant against a West Ham side who spent most of the international break being the focus of "manager set to be sacked" rumours. Should really have known better.

[charlierc]

18 minutes ago, kaosmark2 said:

I think Ipswich were playing pretty good football early in the season - they just weren't getting any wins out of it. I can see it being like the last 1/4 of the season Burnley had last year - things click and they just have a style and enough quality and belief and start getting the points on the board.

 

I thought Southampton looked pretty dependent on Ramsdale to keep them up, and he's not good enough to do it with that defending in front of him. They already look done and dusted.

 

Who goes down with them is interesting though - I thought Palace's squad looked good coming out of the transfer window between retentions and signings - but apart from a couple of games they haven't played well at all. Wolves can't defend at all but they've got goals in them and I think that should keep them up eventually. Everton by contrast can't score but seem able to nick just enough wins to keep to about 1point per game which would usually keep a team up. I haven't really seen enough of Leicester this season to make any analysis, but they still seem pretty dependent on Vardy up front? Struggle to think anyone above the current bottom 6 will be dragged into it either.

Ipswich I think will be annoyed not to have won sooner - they let a lot of points go from winning positions early on. But they do seem to be getting it together.

 

Leicester now depends on who they can hire as a new manager. given the early choice to pull the plug on Cooper. The talk on whether they get a points deduction might also be a factor given the question marks on what their finances are or aren't.

 

Southampton are the favourites for the drop, yeah. Have a few decent moments but are generally bad at defending. It's still close though. I thought Wolves were in trouble but they're now beginning to show something. Everton still look like a relegation waiting to happen, Palace's rebuild all happened at the end of the window and never seems to have gelled quite well and ofc you never rule out someone having a nosedive and landing right in the thick of it.

[kaosmark2]

17 minutes ago, charlierc said:

Ipswich I think will be annoyed not to have won sooner - they let a lot of points go from winning positions early on. But they do seem to be getting it together.

 

Leicester now depends on who they can hire as a new manager. given the early choice to pull the plug on Cooper. The talk on whether they get a points deduction might also be a factor given the question marks on what their finances are or aren't.

 

Southampton are the favourites for the drop, yeah. Have a few decent moments but are generally bad at defending. It's still close though. I thought Wolves were in trouble but they're now beginning to show something. Everton still look like a relegation waiting to happen, Palace's rebuild all happened at the end of the window and never seems to have gelled quite well and ofc you never rule out someone having a nosedive and landing right in the thick of it.

Yeah definitely. There's quite a few games they could've pinched - the Liverpool one I remember thinking they possibly deserved more - but they've got enough about them that I'm hoping they just don't have a season-ruining run of bad form.

 

Palace are the one I find most curious - I think they've been really missing Wharton and Eze's looked a bit isolated creatively at times - but they've got enough else that I can't help but think they'll surely sort themselves out at some point. The rest of the bottom 6 I all thought would be around there from before but I just think they've got too much quality to be mired there all season. Having said/thought this about other teams that have gone down in the past...