Sneaking in - Full Video

[Adster]

Regarding wristbands. Even if you have large hands it's pretty trivial to take them off in seconds using the freezer bag trick. I've had just one wristband over dozens of festivals that was too tight to get off (and back on). Sharing them would be easy

[Skip997]

58 minutes ago, Old_Johno said:

The main reason I don’t think it can be that high is logistics of getting there

 

10k people is 2,500 cars. For Bristolians that’s the entire 8 story Cabot circus car park. You can’t bin that many cars off by the side of the road within any reasonable distance.

 

Even if a quarter came by car that’s still a sh*t load of cars to park somewhere within walking distance, when the whole festival is set up not to give anyone a free parking option within miles as they’re flogging it for £60. 

10,000 plus people getting there by public transport? Not a chance.

 

Getting any reasonably high number in via crew would be raising serious questions about why say a toastie stand needs to be going out for delivery runs every 30 minutes. 
 

Paid off security? You’d need multiple people in on in, and volunteer stewards it just seems unlikely. Possible for another few hundred.

 

10,000 extra attendees getting in is over 200 people jumping a fence/ sneaking in/ passing off a fake ticket EVERY HOUR for the first two days, or 20 people per gate per hour, assume there’s about 10 gates ng the service ones, could be loads more if anyones got a crew map. 

 

QR code wristbands would be cool, if you buy a season pass for snowboarding it’s linked to your picture so you can’t lend it to people, it’s not mega technology, they’ve done the hard part by everyone getting their picture and account linked. 

Great post 

[fraybentos1]

Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on?

[Alvoram]

1 minute ago, fraybentos1 said:

Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on?

Yep, lots of people, were getting checked inside randomly. 

[sedra]

I was working Gate C with Oxfam - on first time entry and also exits. We were alerted to fake tickets and how to spot them and fake lost ticket bands  which had a certain numbers on. There were 2 people dressed as paramedics who tried to get in - unsuccessfully although full marks for effort

and a couple of runners who got caught. Not sure many people managed to get through main gates. We did meet someone on the crew bus on the Tuesday from the green fields though who said she knew of about 40-50 already there who had got in. I am assuming in back of vans or something? 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

7 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on?

 

I've never seen it, ever. 

[Fishinginthelongdrops]

42 minutes ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

I've never seen it, ever. 

There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years.

 

I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently.

[tigger123]

27 minutes ago, Fishinginthelongdrops said:

There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years.

 

I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently.

I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back

[stuie]

1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

I've never seen it, ever. 

I’ve only ever seen it on Tuesday night when they’ve done a sweep from one side of the farm to the other. 

[Crazyfool01]

5 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back

Don’t think so or at least partially not … it’s to slow the flow of crowds I was told 

[Talcroft]

1 hour ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

I've never seen it, ever. 

I've seen it once in ten glastos since 2008 - just saw him being removed, missed the start of the palava and how he was checked. 

[Sawdusty surfer]

1 hour ago, Fishinginthelongdrops said:

There are sometimes people spotting at the road crossings and along the railway track. Seen quite a few people get caught without bands while crossing the road between Silver Hayes and Woodies in previous years.

 

I’m sure there have been wristband checks going into the SEC in some years but haven’t noticed it recently.

It occasionally does happen threre. The reason for that location is that it's a short distance to an exit point for easy eviction.

[Johnnyseven]

46 minutes ago, tigger123 said:

I believe the stewards asking you to high five their big foam hands as you go through the barriers in Bella's Field was actually a disguise for wristband checking, at least that's what one of them said to me when I asked them a few years back

 

Easily foiled by only high fiving with one hand.

[Monty Pythagoras]

9 hours ago, fraybentos1 said:

Do they ever have people wandering snort the festival chucking people out who don’t have wristbands on?

Yeah I got collared by a lady on a mobility scooter in the greenfields about 11pm one night. Was more caught off guard than anything else so obliged and showed my wrist but not sure what would have happened if I'd have flat out refused.

[fraybentos1]

Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop.

[Crazyfool01]

2 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop.

maybe instead of double banding they could reissue or produce a lost ticket pass with photo on it from a database ? 

[Skip997]

12 minutes ago, Monty Pythagoras said:

Yeah I got collared by a lady on a mobility scooter in the greenfields about 11pm one night. 

Think I know the lady.

[Monty Pythagoras]

4 minutes ago, Skip997 said:

Think I know the lady.

She was fine - just caught me off guard being asked more than anything. Does she normally check bands? And what would have happened if I hadn't obliged or didn't have a band?

[Skip997]

1 minute ago, Monty Pythagoras said:

She was fine - just caught me off guard being asked more than anything. Does she normally check bands? And what would have happened if I hadn't obliged or didn't have a band?

I thought she was welfare, had no idea she checked bands. 
 

Unless she had a radio not sure what she could have done.

[MilkyJoe]

I'm not sure I understand the double wristband thing. Is it an identical wristband to the normal one?

[Madyaker]

2 hours ago, Supernintendo Chalmers said:

 

I've never seen it, ever. 

I’ve not seen security randomly check people inside the festival but I have seen people with no wristbands getting picked up once or twice. 
 

In the John peel tent in 2017 waiting for killers to do their tba set and there was a bunch of 6 or 7 teenagers beside us and I had noticed that they didn’t have a single wristband between them but I didn’t care. About ten minutes before the gig starts 4 security guys approached them from different directions and they were all escorted out, I think they just accepted it with no fuss.
 

Someone obviously spotted them and grassed them up to security which I thought was bad form to be honest, they seemed like nice kids there to enjoy the music, not causing trouble. 

[Old_Johno]

44 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop.

I don’t think you’d ever stop traders bringing in a few extra people, it’s always been a thing at festivals that crew allocations was sort of part of the deal, especially for people running stages.

 

You got paid f**k all but you were given way more bands than you needed and sold the rest off. They clamped down on it so they just bring their mates in. 

[fraybentos1]

10 minutes ago, Madyaker said:

I’ve not seen security randomly check people inside the festival but I have seen people with no wristbands getting picked up once or twice. 
 

In the John peel tent in 2017 waiting for killers to do their tba set and there was a bunch of 6 or 7 teenagers beside us and I had noticed that they didn’t have a single wristband between them but I didn’t care. About ten minutes before the gig starts 4 security guys approached them from different directions and they were all escorted out, I think they just accepted it with no fuss.
 

Someone obviously spotted them and grassed them up to security which I thought was bad form to be honest, they seemed like nice kids there to enjoy the music, not causing trouble. 

Maybe, but at the end of the day if there ever is a crush or something like that then being thousands over capacity would be a cause of that. Easy to say it's fine on a small scale but bigger picture it's clearly dangerous.

[mazola]

only time I've ever been asked to show wristband was back in 2016 I think, security checking in the middle of the night as we were on our way in or out of bushy ground

[philipsteak]

48 minutes ago, fraybentos1 said:

Surely videos like this mean they could easily tighten things up . To me it seems the weak points are this thing with the lost tickets? Seems pretty daft and technology could surely help there. The other thing is obviously knowing someone who works there which is obviously harder to stop.

 

Yeah, it's one of those solutions that worked fine until it didn't, once people realised they could exploit it. (Probably about 5 minutes after seeing it) And even then it only becomes a big problem if too many people start exploiting it. I don't remember ever seeing that many people coming through with two wristbands but I haven't worked a ped gate since 2019. Maybe more are coming through now?