Ticket tips and Tricks for 2025 festival

[stuie]

1 hour ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Easiest way, in theory, to succeed is to get as many friends and family to separately, remotely try for your group. In the previous system this wasn't so good or easy because of all the F5'ing, multiple browsers etc, but all the helpers need to do is log on and if one of them gets through first, they key in the info. So a group of 6, with 2 helpers each = 18. Three times more likely to succeed than your average group of 6. Nine times more likely than a group of 2.

That sounds simple, but this could go on for hours and hours! There’s limits to what my friends and family will do for me and I couldn’t be confident of their efforts into the second hour of a queue screen 😂😂

 

Thursdays coach sale is going to be an absolute clusterf**k of Oasis proportions! Everyone trying Sunday will try Thursday too and people will still be looking at queues at midnight 

[Mish1268]

I am getting confused are we saying if my son is trying for his group and I am trying for mine from the same house, we will only be allowed one queue place? When I tried for oasis I had three laptops going with different queue numbers in each. 

[aj6658]

1 minute ago, Mish1268 said:

I am getting confused are we saying if my son is trying for his group and I am trying for mine from the same house, we will only be allowed one queue place? When I tried for oasis I had three laptops going with different queue numbers in each. 

it would be utterly mad for that to be the case. Any public building, any student houses or flat shares would be screwed. 

 

I think there will be stringent measures to stop bots and I they have said in the past that multiple devices harm your chances anyway

[efcfanwirral]

1 hour ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Just allocations within the UK:

Liverpool 75,000

Rest of England, Scotland, Wales 50,000

Belfast 1

🤣

This still works well for Liverpool, they have HUGE groups of friends there, if I go out and about with someone from there they know someone in every bar we go in. I'm lucky to have one team of 6, they have teams of dozens who'll keep going til they've got everyone's. 

[uscore]

6 minutes ago, Mish1268 said:

I am getting confused are we saying if my son is trying for his group and I am trying for mine from the same house, we will only be allowed one queue place? When I tried for oasis I had three laptops going with different queue numbers in each. 

 

This is not a guarantee but I absolutely guarantee that they won't block people using a few devices from the same household/ip address.  It makes no sense to rule out people in shared accommodation, large households, libraries/coffee shops etc

[Ayrshire Chris]

So now we know it’s happening we’re going to have a ‘how to access the Glasto ticket site’ tutorial with some trusted family and friends. From when to logon, how to carefully enter details, payment  etc, don’t refresh unless the all tickets allocated appears, what boxes to tick before confirming. A group all trying for our tickets. 
basically it’s just like buying a few more lottery tickets. 

[Chrisp1986]

23 hours ago, Nobody Interesting said:

I thought you were at a wedding

Ah no that has been called off now. So the lodge was booked in a panic instead.

[CharlotteB]

4 hours ago, incident said:

 

They never did really, that was something of a myth or a presumption.

 

The "bottleneck" was never really on the customer side, it was with the See servers so different internet connections were broadly equal or perhaps more accurately not always predictably advantageous - every year you'd get anecdotal stories of people trying and failing on their super high end home or work connection, but then popping the phone onto 3G and getting straight through. Not that a 3G mobile connection had an advantage either of course.

 

There would have been numerous factors at play in success chances and opining on them could get very dull - but for the most part connection speed would have only been a minor factor.

 

Ah, I see. I assumed it would've helped with refreshing. Never had to go through this, thank heavens 🙏 

[Avalon_Fields]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

That sounds simple, but this could go on for hours and hours! There’s limits to what my friends and family will do for me and I couldn’t be confident of their efforts into the second hour of a queue screen 😂😂

 

Why? If the system fails then anything could happen, but if it performs surely they will have at least the same capacity to process sales as before? It may even be quicker.

[Joey Peeps]

Why have they done this? I thought Emily had implied the old system was the fairest way of doing it, or something to that effect?

[Ayrshire Chris]

3 minutes ago, Joey Peeps said:

Why have they done this? I thought Emily had implied the old system was the fairest way of doing it, or something to that effect?

An earlier poster suggested that see tickets had imposed this on the festival but there’s no evidence of this I think. I would imagine there’s been much discussion as to how to prevent the IT problems that occurred over the last few sales. Whether the festival is happy , who knows. 

[incident]

9 minutes ago, Joey Peeps said:

Why have they done this? I thought Emily had implied the old system was the fairest way of doing it, or something to that effect?

 

See have made this same change across (nearly) all of their hosted sites, subsequent to (and presumably influenced by) them getting massively overloaded with the Oasis ticket sale earlier in the year.

Edited 3 hours ago by incident

[stuie]

8 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Why? If the system fails then anything could happen, but if it performs surely they will have at least the same capacity to process sales as before? It may even be quicker.

 

My guess is that the waiting room on Thursday will be overrun with people who would normally only try on Sunday, trying to suss-out the new system.  If they all buy tickets, it'll be quick, but the waiting room will be filled with window shoppers.

[Avalon_Fields]

5 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

My guess is that the waiting room on Thursday will be overrun with people who would normally only try on Sunday, trying to suss-out the new system.  If they all buy tickets, it'll be quick, but the waiting room will be filled with window shoppers.

Could be, some of our group are considering coach tickets for the first time.

[stuie]

4 minutes ago, Avalon_Fields said:

Could be, some of our group are considering coach tickets for the first time.

Thinking about it more, one you add in the choice of destination it's going to be a nightmare.  5000 people from London in a waiting room getting through and no London departures are left etc. 

[incident]

Just now, stuie said:

Thinking about it more, one you add in the choice of destination it's going to be a nightmare.  5000 people from London in a waiting room getting through and no London departures are left etc. 

 

I can't see how that aspect is any different to what it was before?

[Euphoricape]

21 minutes ago, incident said:

 

See have made this same change across (nearly) all of their hosted sites, subsequent to (and presumably influenced by) them getting massively overloaded with the Oasis ticket sale earlier in the year.

So it's Noel and Liams fault then.

[stuie]

3 minutes ago, incident said:

 

I can't see how that aspect is any different to what it was before?

 

Only magnified by the amount of people trying on 14th who wouldn't normally pay any attention to the ticket site whatsoever until the Sunday sale date.   We'll have to wait and see what happens but my guess is it will be carnage and will last longer than last years 26 minutes. 

 

[incident]

9 minutes ago, Euphoricape said:

So it's Noel and Liams fault then.

 

As it ever was.

[dotdash79]

35 minutes ago, incident said:

 

See have made this same change across (nearly) all of their hosted sites, subsequent to (and presumably influenced by) them getting massively overloaded with the Oasis ticket sale earlier in the year.

I don't thing the planning than implementation of a change like this would take a couple of months, this change on the site has been many months in planning.

 

This is all about ensuring site availability when high demand for a single sale is happening.

[incident]

28 minutes ago, dotdash79 said:

I don't thing the planning than implementation of a change like this would take a couple of months, this change on the site has been many months in planning.

 

This is all about ensuring site availability when high demand for a single sale is happening.

 

Yeah possibly. Certainly in an ideal world you'd want to do it properly which does mean taking your time over it - though the product they've landed on is one that's off the shelf, entirely cloud hosted, and works in such a way that it could quite easily be implemented at short notice if the urgency to do so exists.

[dotdash79]

Procurement of a system like this would take several months in it's self.

[Alvoram]

I'm either reading this wrong, or there's some misunderstanding around what they seem to be implementing / attempting to implement. 

This seems to be a multi-layered approach to reduce load on their server, and fix the issues with people cheating the system, host file editing etc. 

Akamai is being implemented, hopefully the bot protection and human detection side of it, for security, then once you clear that, you're placed in the Queue-It system. Queue-It 'should' reduce load on their own servers, meaning no repeat of the 2023 fiasco, where people who got through couldn't get tickets. 

What this hopefully means, if I am reading it right, is that, those who were cheating the system, won't be snapping up most of the tickets this time. BUT traditionally organised groups, those with spreadsheets etc, could win big. If every person listed on a spreadsheet is trying, with helpers, then once their group is sorted, that's at least 5 people, still in the queue, to move onto another group on the spreadsheet, increasing their chances. Just as used to be the case. 

With (hopefully*) less tickets being obtained through questionable means, that leaves more tickets in the pot for organised groups to take from. 

Unless I'm reading this completely wrong, if this new system works as intended, it's great news for most of us here (Unless you were one of those who was host file editing / cheating the system another way.) 

*This all depends on them implementing Akamai's bot protection properly, and it being effective, obviously. 

[Kashkin]

7 minutes ago, Alvoram said:

I'm either reading this wrong, or there's some misunderstanding around what they seem to be implementing / attempting to implement. 

This seems to be a multi-layered approach to reduce load on their server, and fix the issues with people cheating the system, host file editing etc. 

Akamai is being implemented, hopefully the bot protection and human detection side of it, for security, then once you clear that, you're placed in the Queue-It system. Queue-It 'should' reduce load on their own servers, meaning no repeat of the 2023 fiasco, where people who got through couldn't get tickets. 

What this hopefully means, if I am reading it right, is that, those who were cheating the system, won't be snapping up most of the tickets this time. BUT traditionally organised groups, those with spreadsheets etc, could win big. If every person listed on a spreadsheet is trying, with helpers, then once their group is sorted, that's at least 5 people, still in the queue, to move onto another group on the spreadsheet, increasing their chances. Just as used to be the case. 

With (hopefully*) less tickets being obtained through questionable means, that leaves more tickets in the pot for organised groups to take from. 

Unless I'm reading this completely wrong, if this new system works as intended, it's great news for most of us here (Unless you were one of those who was host file editing / cheating the system another way.) 

*This all depends on them implementing Akamai's bot protection properly, and it being effective, obviously. 

The host file loophole was already fixed though. This large scale change wasn't needed to fix it.

[Avalon_Fields]

@Alvoram Yes, there’s plenty of potential benefits.