Crazyfool01 Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 31 minutes ago, gsp8181 said: It depends on how much hes poked around websites. But I can see a lot of posts where people say 'I got tickets on this banged up ipad when I was trying on my brand new PC all morning' Another thing that I forgot to mention is that Queue-It can be set up not as random as it claims. Some people can have priority so who knows if all the bots are silently dumped at the back of the queue I personally will not be opening the glastonbury website until pretty soon before the sale to minimise my digital fingerprint on that website (i.e. the filters might not be set up correctly and might block people a la oasis if you've had the page open all day and it's got used to you doing nothing and then you suddenly move around like a mad man, but it's paranoia) Just to say thanks if people haven’t already some quality info from what I can make out although some bits well beyond my grasp . This may well result in some people on here getting tickets Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Chris Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, parsonjack said: Unfortunately when it comes to 'typical users' what you're describing is probably accurate for most people trying for a ticket these days. G2025 is going to be full of Nanna's isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewieDC Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, parsonjack said: Popular opinion is that different browsers give different Queue-id's, but that's something to be confirmed on Thursday. It is likely though that Edge and Chrome will give you the same queue position as they share the same underlying architecture. Same with Incognito tabs at present.... It would be great if SeeTickets had some sale with queue implemented beforehand to test it out. Maybe Fridays Kaiser Chiefs? Dont know how popular they are now 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjsh Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Nobody has the devine right to be at every festival. Glastonbury shouldn't be for the same folk year after year after year either. Been 5 times in the 20 odd years I have been trying for tickets therefore missed more than I have attended. Wouldn't change a thing either. Been able to visit some truly incredible festivals in Europe as a Glasto alternative in some of these years and had some of the best times in my life. Glasto ticket blues don't stress me out anymore at this stage. If I get them then great. If I don't I soon get over it and plan something else. I'm all for this new system (if it does as I think it says on the tin). Bookers being able to get back in over and over once through to the ticket page has always been a massive bug bear of mine. Good luck to you all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuie Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Ayrshire Chris said: Joking aside, if most of the old school get the boot and the majority of attendees are fresh and never been before, I do worry for the festival. Both in terms of operations and atmosphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mash2 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago So, is it better to clear out your cache/temp storage/cookies just prior to the sale or would that result in a higher score? How about using a brand new PC with literally no history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, TheFullShaboo said: Lets say i have 3 devices on same wifi, but on one device i'm making a lot of 'bot activity' - multiple browsers, tabs, incognito ect - would the block be imposed on the specific device? The IP address? All 3 devices? Apologies if this is a daft question, i know very little about the technical details involved but can assure you i'm desperate for a ticket 😄 So each time you get blocked, it will raise your bot score up for that network and device. The higher the bot score, the more detailed the checks and the more likely you'll be blocked from those checks. If people are behaving normally it will lower the bot score for that network. Once your bot score for a network passes the high threshold, it will just block that network (IP address). And once your bot score passes a high threshold for a certain device, that device's fingerprint will be blocked. Like using 'curl' to access the website or running it through an change detector will be instantly blocked as the fingerprint will be over the high threshold. And if you're on a big uni network, people are being normal but one person is hammering it, it might result in increased checks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon_Fields Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, stuie said: Joking aside, if most of the old school get the boot and the majority of attendees are fresh and never been before, I do worry for the festival. Both in terms of operations and atmosphere. I guess many of us long standing Glastonbury folk will be apprehensive, if the demographic changes significantly then there’s the possible risk certain parts of the festival may be in jeopardy for future years, if they don’t appeal anymore. I’m thinking of Green Futures, T&C, Avalon, Acoustic, etc. Maybe. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 33 minutes ago, parsonjack said: Unfortunately when it comes to 'typical users' what you're describing is probably accurate for most people trying for a ticket these days. G2025 is going to be full of Nanna's isn't it? They do have it on seetickets already and I think there is a specific setup for Queue-It but I don't know if it will go nuts when everyone starts hammering F5 out of habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Mash2 said: So, is it better to clear out your cache/temp storage/cookies just prior to the sale or would that result in a higher score? How about using a brand new PC with literally no history? So, the stuff it typically uses for fingerprinting is fixed with your computer, and clearing out the cookies wouldn't do a lot. I don't know exactly what parameters go into it though to calculate the score as it's secret to Queue-It. I also suspect that using a normal OS (Windows 10/11, OS X, iOS or a stock android) will count for a lot than something weird (Flashed Android, Linux) and a normal browser (Chrome/Edge) rather than anything rarer (Firefox/Brave/Opera) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsonjack Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, gsp8181 said: So, the stuff it typically uses for fingerprinting is fixed with your computer, and clearing out the cookies wouldn't do a lot. I don't know exactly what parameters go into it though to calculate the score as it's secret to Queue-It. I also suspect that using a normal OS (Windows 10/11, OS X, iOS or a stock android) will count for a lot than something weird (Flashed Android, Linux) and a normal browser (Chrome/Edge) rather than anything rarer (Firefox/Brave/Opera) That's interesting. I just dragged out an old Dell laptop running Windows Vista and an ancient Chrome version. It's connected to my wifi with no dodgy plugins etc and on visiting the ticket page it instantly gets the 'Suspicious Activity Detected' page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike A Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, parsonjack said: That's interesting. I just dragged out an old Dell laptop running Windows Vista and an ancient Chrome version. It's connected to my wifi with no dodgy plugins etc and on visiting the ticket page it instantly gets the 'Suspicious Activity Detected' page. Which page to you visit to get that notice? Was it https://glastonbury.seetickets.com? Edited 1 hour ago by Mike A typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsp8181 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, Mike A said: Which page to you visit to get that notice? Was it https://glastonbury.seetickets.com? The block will be over all .seetickets.com domains including glastonbury.seetickets.com I guess because the chrome version is too old to support WebGL or Canvas so it blocks it the message is Unusual Traffic Detected We have detected unusual activity from the IP address or connection you are using. If you are using a VPN or proxy service to connect to us, please disconnect it and try again. You may see this page if you are accessing our website using automated software of any kind. If you still see this page, please try updating your browser and device. Diagnostics [current time] [Akamai Trace ID] [my ip address] AK_WCBA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAnInsider Posted 1 minute ago Report Share Posted 1 minute ago 57 minutes ago, gsp8181 said: The block will be over all .seetickets.com domains including glastonbury.seetickets.com I guess because the chrome version is too old to support WebGL or Canvas so it blocks it the message is Unusual Traffic Detected We have detected unusual activity from the IP address or connection you are using. If you are using a VPN or proxy service to connect to us, please disconnect it and try again. You may see this page if you are accessing our website using automated software of any kind. If you still see this page, please try updating your browser and device. Diagnostics [current time] [Akamai Trace ID] [my ip address] AK_WCBA Getting the same message from the change tower monitor I've got on glastonbury.seetickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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